Who believes in GOD?

[ThaG]

What pretty much lead me to be sitting here at 10:30 typing this was my grandfather's death. He died on saturday from a heart attack. I sat down that night and thought about him and everything else that came to mind. I realized through out my thinking that I maintained an idea that he was in a better place. Before this whenever i mused an idea of God i led towards it not existing. This lead me to ask myself whether or not in fact do i believe in god or deity. Resulting from this caused me to compile all of the information that I had been gathering from reading other's views on this topic.

Basically, I want to believe there is a god. I want to know that my grandfather did actually go to a better place where he lives in peace. The fact of the matter is, I can't believe he's living somewhere else. This idea is so outlandish and in comparison to other scientific ideas, it sounds retarded to be flat out honest. Ideas that i do dismiss are the stories i hear associating with the Jesus Christ and such. Noah's ark didn't happen. You want to know why? Not because only is the whole idea of it happening extremely naive and idiotic-minded, there is proof that this shit would be mighty hard to pull off.
http://www.skepticreport.com/creationism/sillyflood.htm I find it hard to believe that noah's ark did actually occur on the level that is portrayed in the bible, from what i have heard. Adam and eve and other supernatural stories doesnt happen and i am not going to believe in those ideas over scientific theories with backing evidence and supporting ideas.

Next, these next ideas are some what self-constricting because i have no read the bible. I know plenty of people that have picked and chosen what part of the bibles they would like to believe in. I have not understood the point of this and ultimately been seriously puzzled. Most of these ideas chosen are basically morales to follow in their life. From what i have understood is they believe they can choose to believe in what they want as long as the follow the minimum of whatever that may be. Example just believe that jesus died for your sins and youll be saved. Their are so many different variations of this i find it hard to believe that they all are granted eternal life. I just find that oddly pointless on connecting yourself to God, when you only believe in part of his views. Something i definetley to read up on and the idea of being accepted into heaven on the basis of your views.

The idea of religion's purpose in an atheistic point of view, seems extremely well-thought out. Religion's idea's of good and evil are same to the ideas that are believed in through out the world. Thousands of years ago, raping, slavery and pillaging were to believe to be the right thing to do. These idea's are changed as what is excepted through out society. I find it of high possibility that religion was created for mass controlling of populations. The ideas that were to be followed have simply changed through out time to conform to our acceptance of actions. People that do believe in religion, for the most part, do have relatively good morales. For me though, i don't need some book to realize and act upon these morales. I believe i can decide what is the right thing to do and what is the wrong thing to do. I am self-governing in that area. I can create and abide my own morales according to my own ideals, not some that may have easily been created by a government for population control. I am not going to believe in doing the right thing to appease a higher power, i am going to do it for the right thing to do, which is something i see my friends doing PLENTY of the time.

Next, the idea of religion compared to science is almost laughable from my point of view. Think of it this way, if the earth is 4.5 billion years old. Taking this idea as true, and shrink all of the time from precambrian till now onto a one year calendar. Meaning a one year calendar consists 4.5 billion years ago till now. Religion and the creation of man began in the last minute of new years eve. For me that idea really made me realize of how insignificant we are yet we believe the world is going to end in our liftime. Views liek this are extremely mind-opening, while they may not be a great verbatim representation it sheds some light. Not to mention allllllllllllllll of the research and ideas supporting and backing evolution.

Another view i have that i hold extremely close to me is God-empowerment and self-empowerment. People who thank god for making it through a hard time or thanking god for "saving" a family member from death, are realllllllly shallow in my opinion. When i made it through my anxiety and past my slight depression stage, it wasnt because of some supernatural being. I conquered those problems because of MY want and will power. MY thought actions and ideals were the ones that got through, not some idea that has shown NOT AN OUNCE of proof to me. I believe i control my actions and i will not sell my self short of that. God did not give me that power, that is self-empowerment.

Deep down, i believe depending on the views of a person towards religion, can be a weakness. Like i mentioned above about self-empowerment, i believe you can sell yourself short on other idea's when giving the credit to a god.



In my lifetime, I have been shown 0 proof on god existing. I have been shown 0 effects of god in my life. People talk about spiritual experiences when the can just "feel" god, well i havent. I havent experienced that. Will I? I hope so. Thats all i have right now though, is hope. I hope God exists but past that is just ignorance in a less brash form. I hold repsect to all those who believe in God with reasons behind it, which from what i have read in here, people do hold.





I know that was hella long, but i wrote that a month or so back when my grandpa passed away. He was the first significant person i have lost in my life and it sprouted this.

If anyone takes the time to read this, thanks. Any comments welcome.

real talk

I don't have the time to argue right now, but that pretty much sums it up all

 

[J.COLOMBO]

If thatz common knowledge then u should be spittin thiz shit u talkin 2 the people on thiz board that are athiest.

And u asking me questions like "why does he let bullshit go on, who created GOD" etc. Nigga I aint GOD. Ask him. U start off in the beginning like u believe in GOD then start sounding like u athiest by asking a bunch of questions like u don't believe he exist. U kind of confused me with thiz shit u talkin. Who the hell said we were the only ones in thiz entire Universe. Personally I don't think we are the only ones. Az far az climate..........it waz discoverd that the bones of the first man waz found in Africa not Eastern Europe Transelvania mothafucka where ur probably from. I know off top u gotta be white. I bet u won't even admit that Jesus had dark skin even though he iz described in the bible az a man with "feet the color of fine brass as if it were burned in a furnace". If that aint a jet black person then I don't know what iz. I've yet 2 meet a white person who'll admit it. Mothafuckaz are so arrogant that u won't come 2 grips with the truth 4 shit. Where did white people come from? I couldn't tell u. Why don't u askYakub.

WHY DONT YOU FUCKING USE THE "S"...AND I NEVER SOUNDED LIKE I BELIEVE IN GOD...I NEVER HAVE AND NEVER WILL....AND JESUS WAS A JEW NOT A BLACK MAN......AND THEYVE NEVER FOUND THE BONES OF "THE FIRST MAN"......

 

[I AM]

Organized religion is just a sneaky way of saying, "CULT."

 

[2-0-NINE]

There's nothing wrong with Cults, it's what people general associate with that word. When Christianity first came out, it was a "cult". When Islam first began, it was a "cult".

 

[kayvee]

I know that was hella long, but i wrote that a month or so back when my grandpa passed away. He was the first significant person i have lost in my life and it sprouted this.

If anyone takes the time to read this, thanks. Any comments welcome.

i read part of it. but im tired..so i cant finish it. but i wanted to ask if you were close to your grandpa? when my grandpa died it was hard for me, but i wasnt as close to him as the rest of my family was.

~k.

 

[jt2218]

If thatz common knowledge then u should be spittin thiz shit u talkin 2 the people on thiz board that are athiest.

And u asking me questions like "why does he let bullshit go on, who created GOD" etc. Nigga I aint GOD. Ask him. U start off in the beginning like u believe in GOD then start sounding like u athiest by asking a bunch of questions like u don't believe he exist. U kind of confused me with thiz shit u talkin. Who the hell said we were the only ones in thiz entire Universe. Personally I don't think we are the only ones. Az far az climate..........it waz discoverd that the bones of the first man waz found in Africa not Eastern Europe Transelvania mothafucka where ur probably from. I know off top u gotta be white. I bet u won't even admit that Jesus had dark skin even though he iz described in the bible az a man with "feet the color of fine brass as if it were burned in a furnace". If that aint a jet black person then I don't know what iz. I've yet 2 meet a white person who'll admit it. Mothafuckaz are so arrogant that u won't come 2 grips with the truth 4 shit. Where did white people come from? I couldn't tell u. Why don't u askYakub.

just cause someone questions the existence of God don't mean he don't believe in Him. in my opinion, in order to truely believe sumthing is true, you have to question the possibility of it being false and then decide which side you'll take. i've asked myself the same questions Colombo askin, but i don't deny His existence. now, for the second part... i'm white and in my mind Jesus was neither white nor black, but a middle eastern lookin dude. there ya go... the first white person you've heard admit that Jesus was not white. and yes, i believe blacks were the first inhabitants of Earth and every other race spawned from them.

 

[Anaheim*Rob]

Never have, never will.

 

[All 4 the Bay]

Sometimes I do and most of the times I don't. So I didn't vote.

 

[The Evil Genius]

WHY DONT YOU FUCKING USE THE "S"...AND I NEVER SOUNDED LIKE I BELIEVE IN GOD...I NEVER HAVE AND NEVER WILL....AND JESUS WAS A JEW NOT A BLACK MAN......AND THEYVE NEVER FOUND THE BONES OF "THE FIRST MAN"......

I don't have 2 use "S", I'll use what the hell I please. They did find the bones of the first man u indenial azz mothafucka. U just don't wanna believe that the first human being 2 walk the earth had dark skin-period. What the fuck do u mean "Jesus waz not a black man he waz a Jew"? Dumb azz Jew iz NOT a race itz a religion. Sammy Davis Jr. waz Jewish & he waz black. Get yo shit 2gether while u talking yo shit. If u wanna get on thiz board & come after me then thatz cool with me. Yo azz picked the right one thiz time cuz I'm gonna piss all over u if u keep quoting my shit trying 2 target me on some ho shit..

 

[LurccH918]

i feel him watching over me and guiding me

ahmen, i believe 100 for those of you who dont ill pray for ya or better yet go cop killa tays thug religion FUCKING CLASSIC

 

[The Evil Genius]

I think thiz thread should go in the down az a Classic thread cuz I've read some really good shit in here.

 

[|GOD|||ZILLA|]

you know who this is?

 

[MurdaFunk]

I believe in my fuckin self

 

[J.COLOMBO]

I don't have 2 use "S", I'll use what the hell I please. They did find the bones of the first man u indenial azz mothafucka. U just don't wanna believe that the first human being 2 walk the earth had dark skin-period. What the fuck do u mean "Jesus waz not a black man he waz a Jew"? Dumb azz Jew iz NOT a race itz a religion. Sammy Davis Jr. waz Jewish & he waz black. Get yo shit 2gether while u talking yo shit. If u wanna get on thiz board & come after me then thatz cool with me. Yo azz picked the right one thiz time cuz I'm gonna piss all over u if u keep quoting my shit trying 2 target me on some ho shit..

ok like dude above said he was a middle eastern guy..AND "NO" THEY HAVE "NOT" FOUND THE FIRST PERSON...YOU DUMB STUPID RETARTED PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT...MAYBE THEY HAVE RCENTLY FOUND A PERSON THAT DATES BACK FARTHER THAN THEY HAVE FOUND YET.AND HE WAS NOT BLACK EITHER HE PROLLY ISNT EVEN HOMOSAPIAN...BUT ONCE AGAIN THEY HAVE NOT FOUND THE "FIRST" HUMAN TO WALK THE EARTH.....SO SINCE YOU BELEIVE IN GOD YOURE TELLIN ME THEY FOUND ADAM?WOW YOUR A FUCKING MORON...GO KILL YOURSELF


AND IF THEY CAN FIND THE "FIRST" MAN TO "EVER" WALK THE EARTH THEN WHY THE HELL CANT THEY FIND NOAH'S ARK???????????????????????????

 

[jt2218]

AND IF THEY CAN FIND THE "FIRST" MAN TO "EVER" WALK THE EARTH THEN WHY THE HELL CANT THEY FIND NOAH'S ARK?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

for real... that ark gotta be pretty damn big if it was supose to hold 2 of each animal.... and how u gunna get 2 of everything on a damn boat and not have em eatin eachother and shit.

 

[I AM]

There's nothing wrong with Cults, it's what people general associate with that word. When Christianity first came out, it was a "cult". When Islam first began, it was a "cult".

No sir, they still ARE cults. They are and always have been. And trust that there IS a valid reason for the negative connotation of the word, "cult."

People just don't call Christianity a cult anymore because so many people think it's the best fucking thing since water. The funny thing is, 90% of these so called Christians, don't even know their fucking book says that not everyone is meant to get married or have kids. Most of these fucking people don't READ their Bible...they go to church, and have some stupid asshole TELL them what they "should" know. THAT IS A FUCKING CULT.

 

[RedStorm]

Colombo, edit your fucking post man, it's fucking up the screen. one or two question marks gets the point across just fine.

 

[I AM]

^^
it's from the quote above....but i agree. shit is annoying.

 

[2-0-NINE]

@The Evil Genius, there's no point in arguing, people see God in different ways, you may think you know and believe you know, but others will believe differently, no need to argue bro.

 

[2-0-NINE]

No sir, they still ARE cults. They are and always have been. And trust that there IS a valid reason for the negative connotation of the word, "cult."

People just don't call Christianity a cult anymore because so many people think it's the best fucking thing since water. The funny thing is, 90% of these so called Christians, don't even know their fucking book says that not everyone is meant to get married or have kids. Most of these fucking people don't READ their Bible...they go to church, and have some stupid asshole TELL them what they "should" know. THAT IS A FUCKING CULT.

Sixx, did I disagree with you? No, I absolutely agree, again it's the general perception in the word. I agree, for the most part, with your post, except the insert on your INPUT(pun intended) on Christianity. Other than that, thumbs up.