FUCK KAZAA & ALL DOWNLOAD SITES WIT NO VASALINE DOG!!!!!

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These artists are getting what they deserve if you ask me.
I've bought a shit load of cd's for the past couple of years and I wish I could return 95% of them.

I think I've been ripped off for shelling out $17 for 2 or 3 good tracks per CD.

Where's my money????
 
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dj 2nv said:


Well if I could go to best buy and get some good quality porn for a best buy price I would....but last time I checked..a DVD of some
porn chick takin some nuts to her mouth was not located on
isle 9...........

www.action-dvd.com
 
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There's about a 100 million people who download mp3's all the time man and it's pathetic that cats really want to burn their minutes and everyone elses whining about the shit. You ain't going to stop people from downloading any more than you going to stop people from fuckin'. I've said this before (as well as others) and some people are already doing it... MAKE IT WORK TO YOUR ADVANTAGE. If you can't figure out how to do that then you're right where you need to be... sitting around being huffy & puffy because you don't have the million dollars you THINK you should.


@A-Wax
You're making a big mistake telling one of your fans to fuck himself and whatever. Every single one of your fans can take that personal if they want to and then where would you be? You should know better both as an artist and as a businessman.

It sounds like you're a little insecure about your music. You don't want mutha fuckas to hear it but you want them to buy it. You want to fight again mp3's even though there is no way to win. You sound like a mutha fucka who thinks people owe you shit and I'll tell you right now.. Nobody owes you a damn thing. If your music can't stand on its own two feet and MAKE PEOPLE WANT TO BUY IT then I don't want to hear you whining about your lack of a career & profits.

All mp3's mean is that cats are gonna have to adjust their hustle... But then they actually gotta have some in the first place and not just talk about it.
 
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WAX FASE said:
HAHAHA!!!!THATS WHAT I`M TALKIN` ABOUT!!!YOU GOT A P.C. TO DOWNLOAD....BUT YOU CANT AFFORD A C.D.?
Most cats CAN afford to buy a cd but they are tired of feeling ripped off so they are doing what they can to keep it from happening.
 
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WAX -WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS....I HAD BOUT 350 BAY CDS INCLUDING EVRY CD YOU PUT OUT...SAVAGE,65 GZ,WHO GOT IT,I BOUGHT WAXFASE AFTER THIS HAPPENED,,AN THEY GOT STOLEN..I HAD MAYBE 20-30 CDS LEFT...I STARTED DOWLOADING ALOT OF SHIT BECAUSE I AINT TRYING 4000-5000$ REPLACING THEM..I DID DL YOUR SHIT BUT I WENT OUT AN BOUGHT CUZ I WAS REALLY FEELIN IT AT THE TIME...BUT IM NOT GONNA REPLACE EACH CD U KNOW..IMA DL ALL MY FAVORITE SONGS AN BURN EM... I SEE NOTHING WRONG SINCE I OWNED ALL THE SHIT B4.IS THAT A PROBLEM?????????
 
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A-WAX said:
YOU EITHER A FAN,WHO SUPPORTS MY CAREER FRUM C.D.z,SHOWZ,ETC....OR YOURE NOT. IF YOU REALLY WANT TO BUY IT....BUT YOUR BROKE....TELL YO` DOG BURN YOU A COPY BY ALL MEANZ!!!!!WHEN YOU GET ON YOUR FEET....COP THA NEW JOINT!!!!!IF YOU SOME NERD ON HIZ COMPUTER 25 HOURZ A DAY DOWNLOADIN` EVERY ALBUM IN EXISTANCE..WELL..IF WE WERE PIRATES I`D MAKE YA`LL WALK THA PLANK!(<THATS A COPYWROTE BAR,I HEAR YOU SAY THAT IN A RAP IT`S KRACKIN`!)
THATS FRUM PAGE 1,AGAIN.
 

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a wax gets hyped a lot on these boards so i checked him out by downloading and i thought he was weak. i wasnt out of 15 bucks and a wax wasnt out of a potential future fan because :

had i purchased any of his cds with my money, i would have never bought another cd of his ever, but if i see it on mirc i might download it and give him another try. a chance to redeem himself. but had that option not been available, i wouldnt think about even looking at it on a store shelf after being jacked once.

anyone who thinks that people are even going to be buying the equivalent of cds, tapes, records, whatever 10 or 20 years from now is a fool. yall better figure out how to get paid in the digital download age because consumers are up on game and if you aint you might as well get out of it.

WACK RAPPERS WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR RELEASES!!!!!
 

Tim

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If someone downloads your album and doesn't buy it then they probably weren't going to buy it in the first place. The same people downloading albums instead of buying them are the same people 10 years ago who would have their friends dub an album for them instead of buying it. I know for a fact having the ability to download albums hurts sales, but not for the reasons the riaa and the industry wants everyone to believe. It hurts sales because people download an album, realize it's shit and don't waste their money. If someone downloads your album and doesn't buy it then it usually means one of two things;

1. they weren't going to buy it in the first place and there's nothing you can do about it.

or

2. your album isn't worth buying and that's your fault.

There are VERY FEW quality albums that have been out in the past few years. Combine that with the flood of extremely wacc clone albums from every other kid on the internet and you have an over-saturated market. The more albums there are to buy the less albums there are that will actually be bought. Consumers are only going to spend a certain amount of money so they aren't going to buy every album available. Most people I know have bought at most 20-30 cds in their life. Most of that has been in the last 10 years. Averaged out that's 2-3 cd's a year. Now with the average consumer buying 2-3 cd's a year and 100's or maybe 1000's of cd's coming out each year that leaves a lot of albums that will see minimal sales. What's to blame? File sharing? Lacc of quality? Oversaturation? In some aspect all three are to blame. File sharing for keeping some people from buying bullshit. Lacc of quality for making people afraid to take a chance on an album. And oversaturation for causing some quality albums to be overlooked. You want to know what the problem is? Look no further than this site, at least half the people here are "artists" and have an album out or are putting one out soon. Out of all those "artists" putting out albums very few of them are actually any good and even fewer of them are actually worth buying. So don't blame file sharing for shit, blame the industry and the talentless pieces of shit in it for flooding the market with bullshit.
 

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Downloads effect established artists more than new people

I think the internet hurts established artists more than guys just starting off. C-Bo, E-feezy, yeah they get pirated. The exposure does themno good.... everybody already kows them. Michael Jackson or Madonna have a gripe. People don't download their songs just to "preview them".

That is completely diffrerent from new artists or indie labels without a lot of notoriety. I think it actually helps new people. The exposure gained is priceless. You take the good with the bad.
Downloads, I don';t believe are the reasons people sell 1,000 units as opposed to 25,000. SO its not like it is stopping you from really making a dent inthe game and denying you the capital to really be a factor. It may take a while longer to build the numbers you want, but I think that is an excellent trade off for the exposure.
 
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ONLY WAY IM A BUY AN ALBUM THESE DAYS IS IF:

1. I HEAR IT FIRST & I FEEL IT WAS HEATED. EX: SEAN T, OBSTACLES, + MORE

2. IT IS AN ARTIST WITH WHOM I AM A FAN OF & KNOW I WONT BE DISSAPOINTED. EX: 2PAC, E-40, MR. KEE + MORE

3. IF IT IS CHEAPLY PRICED. I WILL TAKE A CHANCE ON AN ARTIST WHO I AINT NEVER HEARD OF ONLY IF THEY SELLING THEY SHIT FOR LESS THAN $10.

IN CONCLUSION

1. PUT OUT SNIPPETS!!! PUT IT ON THE INTERNET!! LET PEOPLE GET A TASTE OF WHAT YOUR FUCKIN WITH! QUALITY MUSIC SELLS ITSELF!

2. DON'T PUT OUT HALF ASSED SHIT, MAKE SURE EVERY SINGLE TRACK ON YOUR ALBUM IS BANGIN. WHAT FUCKED UP MY BUYING OF MUSIC WAS ARTISTS PUTTING OUT WACK ALBUMS. EX: JT THE BIGGA FIGGA & HIS RECYCLES.

3. PUT YOUR SHIT OUT THERE FOR CHEAP! I GAURUNTEE YOU WILL GET MORE PEOPLE BUYING ALBUMS IF YA WEREN'T SELLIN EM FOR $16 A POP!

LOOKOUT FOR MY SOLO COMING SOON. EVERY TRACK I SPENT TIME & MONEY ON. EVERY BEAT BANGIN, EVERY LYRIC ON POINT, EVERY FEATURE OFF THE CHAIN. IF I AIN'T FEELIN A TRACK I DID, I WILL GO BACK & REDOE IT UNTIL IT'S PERFECT.

MAFUCKAS NEED TO BE PERFECTIONISTS WITH THEY SHIT!

KEEP HUSTLIN

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Tim said:
If someone downloads your album and doesn't buy it then they probably weren't going to buy it in the first place. The same people downloading albums instead of buying them are the same people 10 years ago who would have their friends dub an album for them instead of buying it. I know for a fact having the ability to download albums hurts sales, but not for the reasons the riaa and the industry wants everyone to believe. It hurts sales because people download an album, realize it's shit and don't waste their money. If someone downloads your album and doesn't buy it then it usually means one of two things;

1. they weren't going to buy it in the first place and there's nothing you can do about it.

or

2. your album isn't worth buying and that's your fault.

There are VERY FEW quality albums that have been out in the past few years. Combine that with the flood of extremely wacc clone albums from every other kid on the internet and you have an over-saturated market. The more albums there are to buy the less albums there are that will actually be bought. Consumers are only going to spend a certain amount of money so they aren't going to buy every album available. Most people I know have bought at most 20-30 cds in their life. Most of that has been in the last 10 years. Averaged out that's 2-3 cd's a year. Now with the average consumer buying 2-3 cd's a year and 100's or maybe 1000's of cd's coming out each year that leaves a lot of albums that will see minimal sales. What's to blame? File sharing? Lacc of quality? Oversaturation? In some aspect all three are to blame. File sharing for keeping some people from buying bullshit. Lacc of quality for making people afraid to take a chance on an album. And oversaturation for causing some quality albums to be overlooked. You want to know what the problem is? Look no further than this site, at least half the people here are "artists" and have an album out or are putting one out soon. Out of all those "artists" putting out albums very few of them are actually any good and even fewer of them are actually worth buying. So don't blame file sharing for shit, blame the industry and the talentless pieces of shit in it for flooding the market with bullshit.
TIM is great, yall could learn somethin from this guy.
 
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A-WAX said:
YOU EITHER A FAN,WHO SUPPORTS MY CAREER FRUM C.D.z,SHOWZ,ETC....OR YOURE NOT. IF YOU REALLY WANT TO BUY IT....BUT YOUR BROKE....TELL YO` DOG BURN YOU A COPY BY ALL MEANZ!!!!!WHEN YOU GET ON YOUR FEET....COP THA NEW JOINT!!!!!IF YOU SOME NERD ON HIZ COMPUTER 25 HOURZ A DAY DOWNLOADIN` EVERY ALBUM IN EXISTANCE..WELL..IF WE WERE PIRATES I`D MAKE YA`LL WALK THA PLANK!(<THATS A COPYWROTE BAR,I HEAR YOU SAY THAT IN A RAP IT`S KRACKIN`!)

see i dont really get this. your telling people who would buy your cd to get a burned copy of a disc from a homie. and some 'nerd' that if he's dl'ing every cd in exsitance, who would probably never buy your cd that he's in to blame. im not gettin it. whats the difference? whats the difference of DL'in an album and coppin it when you have some skrill? and actually i would think you would want them to dl it instead of burn it. cuz if it was burned they can bring it in their car etc..at least on the pc 80% of people got them lil ass speakers that dont bump. they'd have to burn it themselves and use a disk on it, well some people just say fuck it imma buy it cuz its tight.

favoring people to aquire burned copies of your music over downloading some mp3s is something im really not understanding, what are the benifits to it?
 
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ITS THIS ONE. ITS MY MUSICK .IF I WANT IT ON MP3 OR KAZZA....I WOULD GET IT THERE. I WANT IT @ ROCKBOTTOM IN ANTIOCH?I GET IT THERE. IF I DONT WANT MY MUSICK ON MP3? I CANT DO SHIT ABOUT IT. PEOPLE WHO I DONT EVEN KNOW DECIDE THAT SHIT FOR ME. MY BOY THRASH CAME TO ME RIGHT.....HE SAY "YOU SHOULD PUT YOUR ALBUM ON KAZAA,IT WOULD GET YOU ALOT OF EXPOSURE"...I TOLD HIM YES,HE DID IT.NO BIG DEAL.IF I WOULD HAVE SAID NO.....HE WOULDNT HAVE DONE IT.PRINCIPALITIEZ MUFUCKAZ!!!!THAT BIG PERM SHIT.MAYBE I GOT ISSUES WIT PEOPLE TELLIN` ME WHAT TO DO(i WAS in prison frum age 16 to 21)AND MAKIN` DECISIONZ FOR ME.EITHER WAY.....IF YOU EXPECT ME TO KEEP JUSTIFYIN`MY REASONZ FOR THA OPINIONZ I HAVE TO AVOID LOSIN` A FEW FANZ YOU GOT ME FUCKED UP .I GAIN NEW FANZ EVERYDAY...I CAN LOOSE A FEW.ZOSICK-FUCKYOU.WHOEVA THAT WAS ON THA LAST PAGE(I DONT EVEN KNOW YOUR NAME,THATS HOW IMPORTANT YOU&YOUR OPINION WAS ON MY THREAD)TALKIN` BOUT HE D.L.`D MY ALBUM & I`M WACK...FUCK YOU TOO. DONE
 
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well see when you realize that your opinions are whack and conflicting then you wanna resort to saying fuck you to all of us, like i really care.

what im saying is why is it ok for people to burn your album and not dl a few tracks?

why are you so against downloading? like your gonna throw a cape over your shoulders and stop it.

what your thread started out as you telling us how downloaders are gonna be tracked and thats a big gain for the artists. hooray. and what im saying is, your stupid to think that downloading is hurting the artists that much.

yea its true micheal jackson and madonna, them types it hurting them more than anyone else. but in all honesty, the industry itself is sort of a monopoly. these artists make way to much than they really should be just for music. i'd say the most any artist really deserves is 100k a year equvilent on a 30 year stretch. and thats platinum selling artists im talkin about. they make way to much.

so in a sense downloading is just evening it out, taking absolute power from the industry and placing power into the consumer. now we can decide what we want to spend our hard earned money on, not blindlessly buying anything that comes out, and the industry hates it. uh-oh, we took off our blindfolds!

wax your dumb for that post. you lost your objective in this post. no ones askin you to justify your opions, but we're doing exactly what we're supposed to do on a msg board. express our own opinions. thats what this shit is here for. contrast of opinion to be publicly discussed. you look all pissed, its kinda funny.

'IF I DONT WANT MY MUSICK ON MP3? I CANT DO SHIT ABOUT IT.'

thats correct, and instead of trying to post on here and so to speak threaten the people that download with breaking news from congress(!) that anyone who downloads can be tracked and prosecuted (which we all know they cant), you should take the time to think about how downloading has helped your sales and fanbase. i aint trippin on your reactions i know you a 'G' and whatnot, so obviously your gonna lash out that way, nothing personal taken. so say fuck you to me all you want.

fact is, downloading has helped you. i've posted to try and help you realize that. i know you dont want your shit on there and its your music blah blah, but some things are as they are. , i dont wanna pay taxes but just cuz i dont wanna, dont mean i can stop taxes altogether. i mean its my money that im earning right, my labor makes this money, why should i have to give it to anyone i dont want to. cuz its reality. shit wont change. sometimes you need so see the good in situations, and in this one your clearly not seein what i've tried to bring to you, because i see your side clear.

anyways this should be killed, let me tell you one thing, no matter what congress says...it will never stop...it'll be here, downloads accessable...always...


'My crime is that of outsmarting you, something that you will never forgive me for. I am a hacker, and this is my manifesto. You may stop this individual, but you can't stop us all... after all, we're all alike.'-Mentor
 
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i down loaded kazza and it has some ill porno flicks that i down loaded....

theres this one 70's porn where this dude that looks like meat head from archee bunker show bones this one chick while hes dressed up as the grim reeeeper and they are doing it in the super market and she gives a ranch salad dressing bottle a blow job ITS FRIGGEN NUTS....



word to kazza~~~~~~~~!!!!
 
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YOUR ASKIN` ME WHY IS IT OK TO BURN BUT NOT TO D.L.,IM SAYIN` ITS COOL TO DO BOTH.I JUST SAID I TOLD MY BOY THRASH GO AHEAD,PUT IT ON KAZAA.....SO WITH ME SAYIN` THAT 1 POST AGO,WHY YOU STILL ASKIN` THAT STUPID QUESTION STUPID?????????????????????????????????? I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE PUTTIN` MY MUSICK ON WEB SITES WITHOUT MY AUTHORIZATION ....THEREFORE....FUCK KAZZA.YOUR DEFENDING DOWNLOADIN`....TELLIN ME IT HELPS ME....RIGHT?I SHOULD EMBRACE IT RIGHT?THEY LEAKED MY SHIT BEFORE IT DROPT!!!!HOW DOES THAT HELP ME?MY ALBUMS AINT EVEN AVAILABLE IN MOST PLACES,HOW WILL THEY BUY IT IF THEY WANT TO???KAZAA DONT HAVE NO LINK TO MY WEBSITE.WHAT IF I WANT MY ALBUM TO BE ONE OF THOSE HARD -TO-FIND "I SHOULDA BOUGHT 2 WHEN IT DROPT" ALBUMZ?THATS NOT A OPTION WITH D.L. SITES.I WANT PEOPLE TO GO TO MY WEB SITE FOR MY PRODUCT....NOT YOURZ OR MP3S OR KAZAAS!THATS ASKIN` TO MUCH?
 
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Raphas said:
Take it this way, A-WAX, if it wasn't for the internet and downloads I'd never know your music since your CD don't come out here in France. it's promotion for yall artists.
couldn't agree with you more!
HAIL TO THE DOWNLOADS...
 
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IF YOU AINT NOTICED YET....I`M JUST THROWIN` OUT REASONZ...I GOT POSTS ON THIS BOARD ENCOURAGIN` PEOPLE TO D.L. MY JOINTS....I JUST REMEMBER WHEN 65 G`Z 1ST GOT LEAKED TO KAZAA EVERYONE WAS TALKIN` SHIT!MY ALBUM GOT LEAKED AND EVERYONE RESPOND WITH THA SAME SHIT YOU SAYIN NOW....IT CANT BE STOPT.WELL....IF & WHEN IT DOES GET STOPT....I`M LAUGHIN`.IF IT NEVER STOPS....O-WELL.
 
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