The Evil Genius said:
Potna read my 2 post & you'll know why a person likemyself has a problem with it. Its nit a double standard on my part..... Its jsut some undercover racist shit on a non black person(including yourself) part because y'all are quick 2 use it out of context & call a black person a nigger as soon as u get mad @ him. My post on page one explains it all. Its a term of endearment amongst black people ONLY.
i hear what youre saying, and it makes sense, but i disagree with your reasoning.
by definition of the term, what you advocate is a double standard, and theres no way around that.
[deep breath] okay here we go...
before i start let me just say that if you want to take all this back to the issue of slavery and the big difference between the history of other derogatory words and nigga (or nigger really), all i say is that if nigga still has oppresive meaning to you, you're ignorant for calling yourself it, but if you have taken out any negative connotation with the word, and see no problem using it, then, though i see what youre saying, condemning those who use it is a double standard in my view.
so its a term of endearment for black people, but non black people cant use it as a term of enearment because not only are they not black, but theyve proven to you by saying nigger when theyre mad that most of them are closet racists.
what is the first thing that comes out of a black persons mouth when they get mad at a white person?..."White boy!!!" (im not white by the way, but have been around both black and white people my whole life). White people dont even call each other white boy. they dont like that term, and black people know when they say it, its a form of downing them. How would you like it if i called you "black boy". we're playing basketball and i say "someone cover the 'black boy'" or you you say something and i say "what'd you say 'black boy'?!" you of course wouldnt like that and probably assume im racist. black people do this all the time, but are in denial of the undertone behind what theyre doing. and if there was a more deragotory term (worse than honky or cracker, which black people use all the time in anger) they would use it. lets not pretend like black people dont have animosity towards white people which is essentially racism (and if you think they have reason to, thats a whole other issue, but irrelevant here).
so should black people not be allowed to say "white boy?" ive heard it said innocently from a black person, like "damn that white boy can run fast." and no problem. did she have to say white boy? no. but was it really that racist or offensive? no. but based on your logic she shouldnt be allowed to say that. i dont agree.
you probably have a problem if white people trying to be funny imitating black people, say stuff like "fo sheezy nigga." but im sure you dont see a problem if a black person does an exagerated proper english nerdy accent imitating white people. or a mocking surfer or skater accent and says, "whats up duuude?" see i dont have a problem with either. i think its funny (well when done right. bad imitations bother me), but so many black people (and i include latin people in this as well, but the topic is the word nigga) get bothered by anything racial directed their way, even though they dish it out just as much. double standard.
rawtunes said:
why do people secretly want to be like black people and why are people so fascinated by how we talk and act and what we wear but talk so much shit about us and are quick to say some out of pocket shit...if you dont like us so much then dont do shit we do say shit we say or dont listen to our music...how you gonna have a party play hella rap everybody singing the songs but then be like no black people at the party cuz they wil fuck shit up?...thats backwards...basically if you not black dont say it...aint no double standard
have you heard of the media's affect on a culture. what youre talking about is a young person thing. what do young people watch?...mtv and shows like i love new york. whose all over mtv adn i love new york?...figure it out and put those two together. whats sad is that mainstream hip hop and tv are such a false portrayal of what it means to have black skin, but both white and black kids eat it up, and youve got black kids acting like ignorant sambos, and white kids who would too but theyve got different pressures from their environment stopping them from fully immersing themselves in that type of stupid bullshit.
rawtunes said:
if an asian person told me dont say chink i would understand exactly why they would say that i wouldnt care if they say it every second...why would you even want to say nigga are you sum how cooler cuz you say it?
ok then stop saying fat ass, retard, "thats gay" when you dont like something, white boy, etc.
and i want to say nigga cause i think it sounds funny when black people say it. and i want to be funny too