I'd also like to add, why is it do you think that the high number of prisoners in the penitentiary are disproportionately filled with low-income minorities, in this case blacks? Then ask, why are they in poverty, and what makes poverty stricken people act out so desperately to commit these atrocities? Are they in a situation to where it would be a lot harder for them in contrast to someone else? What's to say that the people who make it out of "concentrated poverty" didn't have to work twice or three times as hard to do so, in contrast to the average American? Is that truly a level playing field? What are the causes of these circumstances? White people in general? The government? The ancestors of white people? The systematic system of racism, left over from the past? Destroyed human relations among blacks and other people? If it wasn't "white people"'s then you should tell me who or what then? If you don't want to point any fingers, then what's to blame? Are these people just lazy and morally corrupt? Thoughts?
"We cant blame the white people any longer"
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WOW! Someone must have pissed you off for you to show your true colors!
BTW, who controls the drug trade in america? Is cocaine being flown in from Africa or does it come from places like Peru, Brazil, Colombia or Mexico? In the late 70's and Early 80's were mexican neighborhoods infilitrated and given drugs to sale at LESS than wholesale prices? You just went from giving us a perception (which I have no problem with) to BLACKS being the LAZIEST individuals in america.
Black people are some of the laziest? I can say mexicans are some of the laziests for not going through the proper venues for obtaining a green card. Or I could really get on one and say blacks are not lazy, but actually too smart to pick tomatoes and cabbage for 2 dollars a day. I can say whites are THE laziest for allowing both people to build their infrastructure while they sat on the porch drinking lemonade. However besides gettign people riled up what exactly would any of that prove?
Now if you are equating "laziness" to unemployment you need to educate yourself as to why these things are so:
http://www.cssny.org/pubs/special/2004_02labormarket.pdf
http://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2001/Nov/wk2/art03.htm
BTW, who controls the drug trade in america? Is cocaine being flown in from Africa or does it come from places like Peru, Brazil, Colombia or Mexico? In the late 70's and Early 80's were mexican neighborhoods infilitrated and given drugs to sale at LESS than wholesale prices? You just went from giving us a perception (which I have no problem with) to BLACKS being the LAZIEST individuals in america.
Black people are some of the laziest? I can say mexicans are some of the laziests for not going through the proper venues for obtaining a green card. Or I could really get on one and say blacks are not lazy, but actually too smart to pick tomatoes and cabbage for 2 dollars a day. I can say whites are THE laziest for allowing both people to build their infrastructure while they sat on the porch drinking lemonade. However besides gettign people riled up what exactly would any of that prove?
Now if you are equating "laziness" to unemployment you need to educate yourself as to why these things are so:
http://www.cssny.org/pubs/special/2004_02labormarket.pdf
http://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2001/Nov/wk2/art03.htm
From what I know about the history of Mexicans is that you're not a homogeneous ethnic group.. There are Mexicans that have more Spanish blood than Native blood, some with more Amerindian blood, some with a lot of Negro blood, and I mean these admixtures can be found in high frequencies.. It's more complicated.. There's a good chance that your lineage traces back to Europe and not the United States, and if it were Native there's a good chance that Mexico is the land of your fore fathers anyways (with the exception of California and Texas)... They didn't take this country from the Mexicans, they took it from the Northern tribes. Navajo and Apache fought against Mexican troops all of the time, especially in and around New Mexico (which is/was Navajo territory)... Most of the south west belonged to the Navajo and Apache who fought against Mexico... It's crazy how everyone wants so badly to be a victim. And for you to use a Dave Chappelle example shows your intellectual capacity, and ability to create a useful analogy...
And it is not true in a sense, you watch too much T.V and are obviously not around a lot of black people. That is truly like me saying, if Mexicans won the lottery, they'd spend it all on burritos and family cars. In addition, who's fault is it that blacks are perceived as lazy "around your parts"?.. Obviously it's just an ignorance issue around your parts and has nothing to do with reality. Maybe black people aren't lazier than Mexicans, but they've been used for too long and refuse to be used any longer like Mexicans are (they have pride). They refuse to dig in some white man's trash, mow his lawn, wipe his babies' ass, clean his dishes, and shine his shoes. Maybe black people have been through slavery before so they know how it feels, and refuses to go through it again, and instead demands better living conditions and community control so that they can build their own shit and have Mexicans come over and dig in their trash, mow their lawn, wipe their babies' asses, clean their dishes, and shine their shoes.
Sorry, I had to go there because you keep pushing it..
And it is not true in a sense, you watch too much T.V and are obviously not around a lot of black people. That is truly like me saying, if Mexicans won the lottery, they'd spend it all on burritos and family cars. In addition, who's fault is it that blacks are perceived as lazy "around your parts"?.. Obviously it's just an ignorance issue around your parts and has nothing to do with reality. Maybe black people aren't lazier than Mexicans, but they've been used for too long and refuse to be used any longer like Mexicans are (they have pride). They refuse to dig in some white man's trash, mow his lawn, wipe his babies' ass, clean his dishes, and shine his shoes. Maybe black people have been through slavery before so they know how it feels, and refuses to go through it again, and instead demands better living conditions and community control so that they can build their own shit and have Mexicans come over and dig in their trash, mow their lawn, wipe their babies' asses, clean their dishes, and shine their shoes.
Sorry, I had to go there because you keep pushing it..
**CALLS GEORGE BUSH**
Hey George, this guy over here on the siccness wants reparations owed to him because your great-great-great grandfather and his grandfathers enslaved his great-great-great- grandfathers - grandfathers.
He is pissed too.
George:
I say toss all black people that CAN trace their bloodlines back to slavery ..ohhh lets say....$40million a piece...free education at the highest institutions....and free medical care will cover it.
is this good enough Park Boys? will this make Slavery and its history go away?
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Hey George, this guy over here on the siccness wants reparations owed to him because your great-great-great grandfather and his grandfathers enslaved his great-great-great- grandfathers - grandfathers.
He is pissed too.
George:
I say toss all black people that CAN trace their bloodlines back to slavery ..ohhh lets say....$40million a piece...free education at the highest institutions....and free medical care will cover it.
is this good enough Park Boys? will this make Slavery and its history go away?
5000
You are the true definition of a closed minded reductionist, which is why I have to sever communications with you. You use logical fallacies and delusional blabbering to lie and cheat your way through discussions, and I'm not falling for that trap. You're simply not smart enough to be entertained. Piss off peasant..
please dont feel like your are educating anyone on this history son. thats like me telling you about Africas......got me?
hahaha....Dave chappelle used that analogy...not me. Yea im sure he didnt grow up poor and around black people either...
give me a fucking break with that bullshit..
Like I said before...there is a reason that he did it. Just like he can do a comedy show about white people trying to act ghetto!!!!
Its for entertainment but there is TRUTH to it..........think a little for me son.
whos fault is that Mexicans are percieved as harder working individuals period??????????
mexicans?
or maybe its the whitemans fault again?
im not sure which reality your in. I know im starting to sound like a racist but this is reality son. Pride has SHIT to do with it. Heres reality....
Everyone wants to make $$$ ...everyone. What do you do to get that $$??
Work and/or Education. now I know HERESY or someone is thinking about the percentages of unemployed black men/women across america.....its sad. But did it ever occur to anyone of you that those numbers are bigger because some/most/many of them just dont want to fucking work?
lets take out whiteman....and replace it with a blank. like this:
They refuse to dig in some man's trash, mo lawns, wipe babies' ass, clean dishes, and shine shoes.
^^^aww see....now you see where im getting. U love to point the finger at the "whiteman".....when you should be pointing at a fucking mirror.
as ive said before...Mexicans/indians have been through slavery.
This is not about slavery...this is about a will to survive. You demand better living conditions but what are you doing to get that? bitch on a fucking computer about it? hope thats not all. You know what I did to better my living conditions? well thats another convo.......
we still live in the same neighborhood I grew up in and I am sending my son to a great school in a (yes whiter neighborhood) good district. I pay $1300 a year for him to go there. I have friends and family members just like the people Cosby is talking about.......they would rather buy their kids the new J's when they drop or that new PSIII....have a $500 birthday party for them....than spend $1300 to send the children to a great school.
like I said you talk from reading some books and taking some classes....
what exerience you got?
hahaha....Dave chappelle used that analogy...not me. Yea im sure he didnt grow up poor and around black people either...
give me a fucking break with that bullshit..
Like I said before...there is a reason that he did it. Just like he can do a comedy show about white people trying to act ghetto!!!!
Its for entertainment but there is TRUTH to it..........think a little for me son.
whos fault is that Mexicans are percieved as harder working individuals period??????????
mexicans?
or maybe its the whitemans fault again?
im not sure which reality your in. I know im starting to sound like a racist but this is reality son. Pride has SHIT to do with it. Heres reality....
Everyone wants to make $$$ ...everyone. What do you do to get that $$??
Work and/or Education. now I know HERESY or someone is thinking about the percentages of unemployed black men/women across america.....its sad. But did it ever occur to anyone of you that those numbers are bigger because some/most/many of them just dont want to fucking work?
lets take out whiteman....and replace it with a blank. like this:
They refuse to dig in some man's trash, mo lawns, wipe babies' ass, clean dishes, and shine shoes.
^^^aww see....now you see where im getting. U love to point the finger at the "whiteman".....when you should be pointing at a fucking mirror.
as ive said before...Mexicans/indians have been through slavery.
This is not about slavery...this is about a will to survive. You demand better living conditions but what are you doing to get that? bitch on a fucking computer about it? hope thats not all. You know what I did to better my living conditions? well thats another convo.......
we still live in the same neighborhood I grew up in and I am sending my son to a great school in a (yes whiter neighborhood) good district. I pay $1300 a year for him to go there. I have friends and family members just like the people Cosby is talking about.......they would rather buy their kids the new J's when they drop or that new PSIII....have a $500 birthday party for them....than spend $1300 to send the children to a great school.
like I said you talk from reading some books and taking some classes....
what exerience you got?
He's blameless.. His responses aren't even thought out.. He's almost putting himself in a position of superiority, when ironically Hispanics suffer the same hardships (in economics, education, financial) as blacks, in some cases more.. And if he would of read the previous comments, he would of saw the point and that no one is "blaming white people"... He adds nothing of interest to this thread discussion.
womp womp....womp womp womp...
womp...
you call me white wash because I believe Education is there for the taking and even Lower Income people (sorry its mostly blacks) continue to make excuses and say "We cant be as smart as the white man because he holds (held) us back and keeps us in the ghetto"...Bullshit!
As I've said so many times before we have the power to change shit. And I stated already......I am sending my son to a better school to learn MORE things. He'll have a better chance of graduating from highschool (not dropping out) and hopefully not get a girl pregnant (like I did). I will send him to a highschool that will prepare him for College not McDonalds. Maybe when he is a grown man he will be in a better situation that I am in and send his children to Better schools and better Colleges than I could send him (my son) to.
This is the way of the world. You have to start somewhere.....
Did i tell you boys that im going back to my highschool and discuss education and its importance in life with some students???? Have you all done that?
Dont give me that bullshit about being ignorant. Ignorant to what? I dont know how black people (or you boys) are raised but I was raised to know where I came from and do better than that. So what you boys dont like it! You kids are to young and inexperienced in real life (not your moms and dads lives)......to know that Im dropping knowledge on you.
with all the bullshit thats been said in this forum....good and bad. I still respect everyone......seriously...and wish everyone luck in life because when school is over, life really starts.
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