WASHED UP BAY RAPPERS.....GO
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There's a lot of really knowledgable people w/ relatively small/narrow roles in artist marketing/PR capacities that I would consider experts in artist development, radio operations, merchandising and promotional partnerships. A lot of them aren't necessarily rich as fuck, but they're experts in their focus of the music industry. Not too many of them are represented in the sic ness user base tho lol.
I would consider an artist with followings and retail availability in markets known to be strongholds for bay area fans (Pacific Northwest, Boise, Denver, KC, Fresno, SD) to still be local/regional. Not to downplay the worth of having market representation and an audience in those areas because that is dope and noteworthy, but simply to draw the line in the sand for when and if an artist surpasses the traditional bay area market footprint.
I would consider an artist with followings and retail availability in markets known to be strongholds for bay area fans (Pacific Northwest, Boise, Denver, KC, Fresno, SD) to still be local/regional. Not to downplay the worth of having market representation and an audience in those areas because that is dope and noteworthy, but simply to draw the line in the sand for when and if an artist surpasses the traditional bay area market footprint.
You don't have to be a music industry expert to think someone's washed up. If you used to like a rappers cds and now they suck that means they're washed up. Apparently you can't have an opinion unless your a music industry expert. Anyway I don't see any music industry experts tryna sign these washed up dudes.
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@ANTILABS-HOW CAN U CONSIDER AN ARTIST THAT SELLS UNITS THOUSANDS OF MILES AWAY LOCAL??THAT DOESNT MAKE SENSE.
ACTUALLY THE CITIES U NAMED JUST HAVE A HIGH DEMAND 4 UNDERGROUND MUSIC. BAY AREA MUSIC HAS ITS OWN FOLLOWING WAY OVERSEAS AND SOME SO CALLED LOCAL RAPPERS DONT KNOW THEIR WORTH BECUZ ALL THEY KNOW HOW 2 DO IS FOLLOW THE ONLY BLUEPRINTS THAT HAVE BEEN EXPOSED 2 THEM. I WAS A LOCAL FRESNO ARTIST BUT MADE UP MY MIND I WOULD ALWAYS BE LOCAL IF I DIDNT INVEST IN TRAVELING.SO INSTEAD OF WASTING MONEY ON STUDIO TIME LOCALLY I TOOK SOME TRIPS AND BRANCHED OUT AND ACTUALLY LANDED A DEAL.I DONT CONSIDER RAPPERS PROFESSIONAL JUST CUZ THEY HAVE A PRODUCT.ANYONE CAN DO THAT...LOCALLY OR OTHERWISE....LIKE I HAVE ALWAYS ASKED ON THIS SITE.HOW MANY RAPPERS DO U KNOW WHO ACTUALLY HAVE HAD SOME KIND OF LEGIT DEAL?? HOW MANY SO CALLED RAPPERS DO U KNOW THAT ACTUALLY GET CHECCS IN THEIR OWN NAME??(consignment dont count).LETS CUT THE CRAP AND JUST SAY 85% OF THESE PPL ARE ASPIRING RAPPERS AND HAVE A LONG WAY 2 GO...OUR PERSONAL FAVORITES ARE NEVER THE TALK OF THE INDUSTRY...I WONT CALL A RAPPER WASHED UP UNTIL I FEEL HE HAS LOST HIS SOUL 2 THE GAME CUZ THE MUSIC BIZ IS VERY FICCLE AND MOST IMPORTANTLY,ALWAYS UNPREDICTABLE.1
ACTUALLY THE CITIES U NAMED JUST HAVE A HIGH DEMAND 4 UNDERGROUND MUSIC. BAY AREA MUSIC HAS ITS OWN FOLLOWING WAY OVERSEAS AND SOME SO CALLED LOCAL RAPPERS DONT KNOW THEIR WORTH BECUZ ALL THEY KNOW HOW 2 DO IS FOLLOW THE ONLY BLUEPRINTS THAT HAVE BEEN EXPOSED 2 THEM. I WAS A LOCAL FRESNO ARTIST BUT MADE UP MY MIND I WOULD ALWAYS BE LOCAL IF I DIDNT INVEST IN TRAVELING.SO INSTEAD OF WASTING MONEY ON STUDIO TIME LOCALLY I TOOK SOME TRIPS AND BRANCHED OUT AND ACTUALLY LANDED A DEAL.I DONT CONSIDER RAPPERS PROFESSIONAL JUST CUZ THEY HAVE A PRODUCT.ANYONE CAN DO THAT...LOCALLY OR OTHERWISE....LIKE I HAVE ALWAYS ASKED ON THIS SITE.HOW MANY RAPPERS DO U KNOW WHO ACTUALLY HAVE HAD SOME KIND OF LEGIT DEAL?? HOW MANY SO CALLED RAPPERS DO U KNOW THAT ACTUALLY GET CHECCS IN THEIR OWN NAME??(consignment dont count).LETS CUT THE CRAP AND JUST SAY 85% OF THESE PPL ARE ASPIRING RAPPERS AND HAVE A LONG WAY 2 GO...OUR PERSONAL FAVORITES ARE NEVER THE TALK OF THE INDUSTRY...I WONT CALL A RAPPER WASHED UP UNTIL I FEEL HE HAS LOST HIS SOUL 2 THE GAME CUZ THE MUSIC BIZ IS VERY FICCLE AND MOST IMPORTANTLY,ALWAYS UNPREDICTABLE.1
none of my favorite rappers are doing it business wise. but that's because i prefer to listen to some hood shit. i can tell you that off top, and for the most part their issues stem from image problems (the world doesn't care about what they have to say right now), or continual mismanagement of their opportunities to build a brand for themselves w/momentum around it.
in the industry right now, a deal to make your album or distribute your album is only a piece of the puzzle, when it used to be almost the whole thing. making albums used to be key in generating revenue for artists and labels, and now it's been replaced in large part by live performances and merchandising. the actual music is just content to leverage to generate demand for the other parts of your business model.
i know and have worked for artists that get chipped the fuck out. i'm talking 180 shows all over the world a year times 30 racks a piece and that's just live performances, and yes, the checks are in their name lol.
the reason i would personally consider an artist regional or local if they have followings in areas traditionally considered bay area satellite markets is because just that, they only have followings in bay area satellite markets. there's a lot of cities that are known for their demand for underground music that bay artists have no following, momentum or live draw in. it's important to categorize bay area rappers as such, because there's a handful of rappers who can go to KC or Hawaii and have name recognition based off of the connection between that market and the bay area, but where do you draw the line when an artists breaks that mold and generates a following in markets that aren't conventionally known as bay satellite markets? that's my point, and that's why i personally need to see the world that way to be effective in what i do because there's instances in which we need to help our clients bridge that divide between local and regional, regional and national, national and international.
it's not an insult to an artist to be regional. it takes a tremendous amount of hard work and luck to be a regional artist and pay your rent or feed your family from it. i think there's a stigma around the term regional when there shouldn't be. everyone who really has a role and is a professional, and considers what they're doing today a job should be commended for making things happen for themselves.
in the industry right now, a deal to make your album or distribute your album is only a piece of the puzzle, when it used to be almost the whole thing. making albums used to be key in generating revenue for artists and labels, and now it's been replaced in large part by live performances and merchandising. the actual music is just content to leverage to generate demand for the other parts of your business model.
i know and have worked for artists that get chipped the fuck out. i'm talking 180 shows all over the world a year times 30 racks a piece and that's just live performances, and yes, the checks are in their name lol.
the reason i would personally consider an artist regional or local if they have followings in areas traditionally considered bay area satellite markets is because just that, they only have followings in bay area satellite markets. there's a lot of cities that are known for their demand for underground music that bay artists have no following, momentum or live draw in. it's important to categorize bay area rappers as such, because there's a handful of rappers who can go to KC or Hawaii and have name recognition based off of the connection between that market and the bay area, but where do you draw the line when an artists breaks that mold and generates a following in markets that aren't conventionally known as bay satellite markets? that's my point, and that's why i personally need to see the world that way to be effective in what i do because there's instances in which we need to help our clients bridge that divide between local and regional, regional and national, national and international.
it's not an insult to an artist to be regional. it takes a tremendous amount of hard work and luck to be a regional artist and pay your rent or feed your family from it. i think there's a stigma around the term regional when there shouldn't be. everyone who really has a role and is a professional, and considers what they're doing today a job should be commended for making things happen for themselves.
I AGREE...BUT THE FACT IS U CANT CREATE A TRUE FAN BASE BY JUST MAKING SONGS.I HAD THE PLEASURE OF STARTING OUT ON A TRUE FUNCTIONAL LABEL AND MERCHANDISING AND SHOWS WERE ALWAYS PART OF AN ARTISTS' PROGRESS.TIMING IS ALSO VERY KEY IN THIS BIZ.
JUST CURIOUS....WHAT ARTIST DID U WORK 4 THAT MADE $30,000 A SHOW?
JUST CURIOUS....WHAT ARTIST DID U WORK 4 THAT MADE $30,000 A SHOW?