So what is success in the industry? I don't really get these washed up tags. 4-Tay dropped a CD this year that was probably his best in a decade and a top 10 seller in the bay right. He's not going gold anymore, but I hardly consider that washed up. I know rappers who only sell a couple thousand at most, book some shows, and generally can't make a living off rap alone so they keep a day job. They still don't lose money doing what they love and have a loyal, if smaller, fan base. Wouldn't call that washed up myself. How much does a rapper have to make to be considering successful? If he's paying all his bills and making at least what he would doing a 9 to 5 or more then who's to say he is washed up just because he isn't breaking a million or half a mil or whatever arbitrary number out there? And who's better off? A rapper who signed a "million dollar deal" and was hot for a year tops or someone who has had a steady, albeit smaller, grind for 10-20 years?