Lynch releases statement regarding senseless killings; CONCERT FUND-RAISER PLANNED
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Well, we all have a right 2 voice our opinions weather they matter or not just like you.
I, myself have never made a threat over the computer & I didn't see anyone in this thread doing it(yet).
I also don't see anyone on this thread keyboard banging & no disrespect to Lynch but I seriously doubt I would "fold with a crease" if I was ever confronted by Lynch.
I, myself have never made a threat over the computer & I didn't see anyone in this thread doing it(yet).
I also don't see anyone on this thread keyboard banging & no disrespect to Lynch but I seriously doubt I would "fold with a crease" if I was ever confronted by Lynch.
deepcixxx if you have a problem with me personally you aint gotta write a buncha dumb arguing bullshit to SICCNESS to get at me indirectly like you a fuckin child...man up....the contact info is in my signature..if your cant do that why dont you send a private message instead of further derailing such a 'sensitive' subject to you...let me know personally how you feel as a man if what i said hurts your soul....you comin in after niggas chilled out and made peace about the fact that the important part is a life was lost..how exactly are you helping by adding fuel to the fire?
that wasnt a threat but dont come at me indirectly with some bullshit ass gangsta shit on the net..just hit me if its real to you.
im not gonna keep saying "RIP RIP RIP" and shit....this is the internet...youre on a forum made for discussion..if discussion bothers you turn your fucking computer off and live in the real world only.
i can back up what i say as a man. so if you got a problem with me speakin you speak to me directly homie..thats all im sayin.
i get tired of this bullshit..i go away from the thread to check the progress of the fundraiser and heres e thug calling me out...just shut the fuck up..damn.
that wasnt a threat but dont come at me indirectly with some bullshit ass gangsta shit on the net..just hit me if its real to you.
im not gonna keep saying "RIP RIP RIP" and shit....this is the internet...youre on a forum made for discussion..if discussion bothers you turn your fucking computer off and live in the real world only.
i can back up what i say as a man. so if you got a problem with me speakin you speak to me directly homie..thats all im sayin.
i get tired of this bullshit..i go away from the thread to check the progress of the fundraiser and heres e thug calling me out...just shut the fuck up..damn.
Hey! Good to see you here. I sent you an email on Myspace. Thanks for your support.
EVERYONE, please, if you can help us by coming together and keeping peace, at least in this ONE thread, you'll be helping us keep focus on the fact that we are trying to help this family, and other families that have experienced such tragedy from the streets.
If you want to help, message either CNI, RIP or me, info at beginning of the thread. Thanks
EVERYONE, please, if you can help us by coming together and keeping peace, at least in this ONE thread, you'll be helping us keep focus on the fact that we are trying to help this family, and other families that have experienced such tragedy from the streets.
If you want to help, message either CNI, RIP or me, info at beginning of the thread. Thanks
You have a right to state your opinion, just as every else here does.
No one wants to take away from the point; and I can understand your statement about the name of the thread. I named it that for just about the same reason you stated; because in other forums, Lynch spoke out about the tragedy and how he felt bad for the family, and immediately someone dissed him for his past song about babies. Understandable, and Lynch does recognize that his past song-writing always has and always will cause conflict. If people knew how he came up with those songs, they'd actually think him genius, for he was putting himself in the mindset of others when he wrote... This was his niche. As an artist, as a man, he's grown and changed, and while he does not regret that which made him the rapper he is, he's on other avenues now. Let's let him bring what he's doing now, and understand the levels upon which he's grown.
Meawhile, any e-bashing, (to anyone thinking of ragging on someone!) let's please save it for another thread, cuz we have work to do here!
Hey, Peace, hair gease, and revolutionary love!
No one wants to take away from the point; and I can understand your statement about the name of the thread. I named it that for just about the same reason you stated; because in other forums, Lynch spoke out about the tragedy and how he felt bad for the family, and immediately someone dissed him for his past song about babies. Understandable, and Lynch does recognize that his past song-writing always has and always will cause conflict. If people knew how he came up with those songs, they'd actually think him genius, for he was putting himself in the mindset of others when he wrote... This was his niche. As an artist, as a man, he's grown and changed, and while he does not regret that which made him the rapper he is, he's on other avenues now. Let's let him bring what he's doing now, and understand the levels upon which he's grown.
Meawhile, any e-bashing, (to anyone thinking of ragging on someone!) let's please save it for another thread, cuz we have work to do here!
Hey, Peace, hair gease, and revolutionary love!
Thanks for your support. There's been a few deaths over the past couple of weeks in Sac over bullshit, and we'd like to find a way to help those families too. But mane, that baby... That gets to every one of us!
We've all held an infant in our arms at some time or another; be them our own children, our niece or nephew, a brother or sister, or a homeboy's kid... There comes a point at which the egos DO need to stop! Did the killer feel more powerful when he pulled that trigger? Did that make him feel like a MAN?? Whatever he thought he was proving, all he proved was that he was a coward of the WORST kind!
I just got back from visiting my brother in federal prison, and I barely had had the heart to tell him about this senseless killing. As much as he hates snitches, he agreed with me that NO person would call the one that tells who did this would be branded a snitch! Again, someone KNOWS something! Cowards like this will talk to someone! We all hope that someone will come forward and talk!
Let's make this a great benefit concert and raise the reward money to see this mothafucka in prison!!!
We've all held an infant in our arms at some time or another; be them our own children, our niece or nephew, a brother or sister, or a homeboy's kid... There comes a point at which the egos DO need to stop! Did the killer feel more powerful when he pulled that trigger? Did that make him feel like a MAN?? Whatever he thought he was proving, all he proved was that he was a coward of the WORST kind!
I just got back from visiting my brother in federal prison, and I barely had had the heart to tell him about this senseless killing. As much as he hates snitches, he agreed with me that NO person would call the one that tells who did this would be branded a snitch! Again, someone KNOWS something! Cowards like this will talk to someone! We all hope that someone will come forward and talk!
Let's make this a great benefit concert and raise the reward money to see this mothafucka in prison!!!
We gonna do everything we can to catch them. It is entirely possible that the very person that did this is reading our threads right now! Or someone that knows he did it.
Regardless, we are getting a lot of artists interested in helping, and some very powerful groups as well... A lot of work, but we need to say NO MORE!
Regardless, we are getting a lot of artists interested in helping, and some very powerful groups as well... A lot of work, but we need to say NO MORE!
The Islam Nation
I added some artists to the beginning of this thread that have come forward and offered to perform. We are working on securing the venue.
I also added this:
We have been contacted by Brother X of the Islam Nation, who has offered the services of his Mosque (unnamed until permission received) to aid in this benefit concert. THANK YOU, Brother, we are honored that you wish to help us stop such senseless violence, and we accept whole-heartedly!
Now, THAT'S SUPPORT!!!!!
Thanks again, Brother X!
(edited to add venue info.)
I added some artists to the beginning of this thread that have come forward and offered to perform. We are working on securing the venue.
I also added this:
We have been contacted by Brother X of the Islam Nation, who has offered the services of his Mosque (unnamed until permission received) to aid in this benefit concert. THANK YOU, Brother, we are honored that you wish to help us stop such senseless violence, and we accept whole-heartedly!
Now, THAT'S SUPPORT!!!!!
Thanks again, Brother X!
(edited to add venue info.)
Investigators in the double homicide of a man and his 7-month-old son now believe that the father and child were the targets of a brutal gang hit -- and not the accidental victims of a home-invasion robbery, Sacramento County Sheriff John McGinness said Monday.
The 21-year-old father, Sean Paul Aquitania Sr., was affiliated with the Norteño gang, according to the sheriff, and he may have been involved in recent criminal activity.
"We believe he was involved in home-invasion robberies," McGinness said when pressed for details in an interview. "These tragedies are quite possibly a byproduct of bad choices and criminal activity on the part of Sean Sr."
In a crime that has outraged the community, Sean Aquitania Sr. and Sean Jr. were gunned down Sept. 14 at a residence in southeast Sacramento. The father was shot and killed inside the house. The baby was shot once in the head as he sat outside, still buckled in his car seat.
Initially, investigators said Aquitania had no criminal history and had happened onto the scene of a home-invasion robbery during a social visit.
Aquitania's gang affiliation eluded detectives in the early days of the investigation because his name didn't appear in the department's database of gang members, according to McGinness.
But, the sheriff said, further investigation turned up Aquitania's gang affiliation as well as possible criminal activity.
Members of the Aquitania family took exception Monday to the sheriff's characterization of the young father. Aimee Aquitania, a cousin of the victims, said the family was unaware of any gang affiliation or criminal activity.
"We don't believe that he was involved in something that led to him being targeted," said Aimee Aquitania, a family spokeswoman. "It's shocking information."
Whatever the motive for the killings, McGinness stressed, the father and son are crime victims whose deaths are being investigated with vigor by his department.
In his 28 years in law enforcement, he said, he's never seen such a heartless crime: the deliberate execution of a baby.
"This is a brutal, calculated, thought-out, planned, cold-blooded murder of an infant," said McGinness. "The person who did this is incredibly cold and without conscience."
The incident began shortly before 2 p.m. on that Friday. When Aquitania Sr. arrived at the rented house on Country Greens Court, he was forced inside at gunpoint by two assailants, detectives say. The baby was left in Aquitania's Chevrolet Impala.
Two residents of the house were inside and witnessed Aquitania's shooting, according to police.
Sacramento attorney Mike Bowman, who represents one of the witnesses to the homicide, said his client believes the slayings were a setup -- that the assailants knew Aquitania was coming to the house that day.
During the fracas, Bowman said, a robber hit his client in the head with a gun. McGinness confirmed that one of the witnesses was beaten up.
"They kept telling him 'We're not playing,' " Bowman said. "Lo and behold, they were not playing."
Bowman said his client believed he was going to be killed, too.
Instead, the 21-year-old witness said he saw his best friend gunned down. After the assailants fled, the man pulled the gravely wounded baby out of the car seat and carried him door to door on Country Greens Court, begging for help.
"He's having an awful time," his attorney said. "He can't sleep. He can't talk about it without crying. (Sean Sr.) was like his brother."
The client, who is not being named because he is the eyewitness to an unsolved homicide, has been convicted of two drug offenses in the past three years.
Bowman said he could not speculate why the killers would have gunned down a baby.
"These guys were obviously coldblooded killers and not acting rationally," he said. "I think people are coming out of the woodwork to help solve this."
McGinness said that the baby's killing has spurred many members of the public -- even hard-core gang members -- to offer information.
"People are expressing cooperation and concern that this person is still at large," the sheriff said. "There's a high degree of outrage. We believe we will solve this one."
NOTE: WE ARE UNSURE AS TO THE VALIDITY OF THE OFFICERS' CLAIMS THAT THIS YOUNG MAN WAS INVOLVED IN GANGS OR CRIME (IT COULD BE AN ATTEMPT AT GETTING INFORMATION, OR JUST SOMEONE TO BLAME.) HOWEVER, WHETHER HE WAS OR NOT, OUR MESSAGE TO OTHERS SHOULD REMAIN CONSISTANT!
WE CAN NO LONGER TOLERATE VIOLENCE SUCH AS THIS! WE HAVE TO ATTEMPT TO TAKE RESPONSIBLITY FOR OUR STREETS, AS KILLERS NEED TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR VIOLENCE. NO MATTER HOW ONE LOOKS AT THIS, THAT INFANT HAD THE RIGHT TO LIVE.
Info on the benefit concert upcoming; a lot of work involved in this, and we are making progress. Looks like we are looking at a date of either November 10th or November 17th.
The 21-year-old father, Sean Paul Aquitania Sr., was affiliated with the Norteño gang, according to the sheriff, and he may have been involved in recent criminal activity.
"We believe he was involved in home-invasion robberies," McGinness said when pressed for details in an interview. "These tragedies are quite possibly a byproduct of bad choices and criminal activity on the part of Sean Sr."
In a crime that has outraged the community, Sean Aquitania Sr. and Sean Jr. were gunned down Sept. 14 at a residence in southeast Sacramento. The father was shot and killed inside the house. The baby was shot once in the head as he sat outside, still buckled in his car seat.
Initially, investigators said Aquitania had no criminal history and had happened onto the scene of a home-invasion robbery during a social visit.
Aquitania's gang affiliation eluded detectives in the early days of the investigation because his name didn't appear in the department's database of gang members, according to McGinness.
But, the sheriff said, further investigation turned up Aquitania's gang affiliation as well as possible criminal activity.
Members of the Aquitania family took exception Monday to the sheriff's characterization of the young father. Aimee Aquitania, a cousin of the victims, said the family was unaware of any gang affiliation or criminal activity.
"We don't believe that he was involved in something that led to him being targeted," said Aimee Aquitania, a family spokeswoman. "It's shocking information."
Whatever the motive for the killings, McGinness stressed, the father and son are crime victims whose deaths are being investigated with vigor by his department.
In his 28 years in law enforcement, he said, he's never seen such a heartless crime: the deliberate execution of a baby.
"This is a brutal, calculated, thought-out, planned, cold-blooded murder of an infant," said McGinness. "The person who did this is incredibly cold and without conscience."
The incident began shortly before 2 p.m. on that Friday. When Aquitania Sr. arrived at the rented house on Country Greens Court, he was forced inside at gunpoint by two assailants, detectives say. The baby was left in Aquitania's Chevrolet Impala.
Two residents of the house were inside and witnessed Aquitania's shooting, according to police.
Sacramento attorney Mike Bowman, who represents one of the witnesses to the homicide, said his client believes the slayings were a setup -- that the assailants knew Aquitania was coming to the house that day.
During the fracas, Bowman said, a robber hit his client in the head with a gun. McGinness confirmed that one of the witnesses was beaten up.
"They kept telling him 'We're not playing,' " Bowman said. "Lo and behold, they were not playing."
Bowman said his client believed he was going to be killed, too.
Instead, the 21-year-old witness said he saw his best friend gunned down. After the assailants fled, the man pulled the gravely wounded baby out of the car seat and carried him door to door on Country Greens Court, begging for help.
"He's having an awful time," his attorney said. "He can't sleep. He can't talk about it without crying. (Sean Sr.) was like his brother."
The client, who is not being named because he is the eyewitness to an unsolved homicide, has been convicted of two drug offenses in the past three years.
Bowman said he could not speculate why the killers would have gunned down a baby.
"These guys were obviously coldblooded killers and not acting rationally," he said. "I think people are coming out of the woodwork to help solve this."
McGinness said that the baby's killing has spurred many members of the public -- even hard-core gang members -- to offer information.
"People are expressing cooperation and concern that this person is still at large," the sheriff said. "There's a high degree of outrage. We believe we will solve this one."
NOTE: WE ARE UNSURE AS TO THE VALIDITY OF THE OFFICERS' CLAIMS THAT THIS YOUNG MAN WAS INVOLVED IN GANGS OR CRIME (IT COULD BE AN ATTEMPT AT GETTING INFORMATION, OR JUST SOMEONE TO BLAME.) HOWEVER, WHETHER HE WAS OR NOT, OUR MESSAGE TO OTHERS SHOULD REMAIN CONSISTANT!
WE CAN NO LONGER TOLERATE VIOLENCE SUCH AS THIS! WE HAVE TO ATTEMPT TO TAKE RESPONSIBLITY FOR OUR STREETS, AS KILLERS NEED TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR VIOLENCE. NO MATTER HOW ONE LOOKS AT THIS, THAT INFANT HAD THE RIGHT TO LIVE.
Info on the benefit concert upcoming; a lot of work involved in this, and we are making progress. Looks like we are looking at a date of either November 10th or November 17th.
I wonder which would best serve justice... Being found on the streets or going to prison. I guess the killer(s) would prefer prison to street justice. They say they think someone from the Bay area came up in here and did this, don't know if that's true or not, just like there's not much proof that Sean Sr. was in a gang. No record, no tatoos... Regardless, that little baby should be in his mama's arms right now, not in his daddy's arms inside that casket.
The ONLY way this shit can stop is if we, the people, work toward stopping it. Cops can't help, government won't help, we all know this as true. I'd trust the streets to bring sense to this world before I'd count on the government.
The ONLY way this shit can stop is if we, the people, work toward stopping it. Cops can't help, government won't help, we all know this as true. I'd trust the streets to bring sense to this world before I'd count on the government.