Bay Area Time is Now.

[thizz]

What's happening is that the bay is getting shine and people on this board are upset that it's not who they like. The issue is not about supporting artist you don't like but why hate on them? Why are you mad other people like them? When you see artist from the region on a national level it is for a reason and that's because they have fans. The indie bay scene for the last 10 years has had a little dark secret nobody ever talked about. NIGGAS DO NOT REALLY HAVE FANS!!!!! THEY DON'T SELLL RECORDS!!!! THEY DO SHOWS FOR CROWDS OF 150-200 PEOPLE IN LIMITED CITIES!!!! Name how many Bay artist have done headlining shows in NYC, LA, Houston, The Bay and Chicago in the same year. Not many.

 

[Gemini]

What's happening is that the bay is getting shine and people on this board are upset that it's not who they like. The issue is not about supporting artist you don't like but why hate on them? Why are you mad other people like them? When you see artist from the region on a national level it is for a reason and that's because they have fans. The indie bay scene for the last 10 years has had a little dark secret nobody ever talked about. NIGGAS DO NOT REALLY HAVE FANS!!!!! THEY DON'T SELLL RECORDS!!!! THEY DO SHOWS FOR CROWDS OF 150-200 PEOPLE IN LIMITED CITIES!!!! Name how many Bay artist have done headlining shows in NYC, LA, Houston, The Bay and Chicago in the same year. Not many.

I agree 100%! The artist who got the most shine are Lil B, Kreayshawn & Berner & people on this board hate that.

 

[thizz]

Not just them people like Zion-I, Nickatina, Baby Bash, Heiro, Main Attrakionz. I've seen niggas even hate on E-40 ans Short.

 

[Gemini]

Not just them people like Zion-I, Nickatina, Baby Bash, Heiro, Main Attrakionz. I've seen niggas even hate on E-40 ans Short.

The last 2 are the most notable of what you mentioned, but yeah your right.

 

[Fruitvale_Mac]

That's a lot of purchases. I hope you are purchasing them albums Breh because if you didn't, everything your posting in the Bay's defense is meaningless.

And with all due respect you sound like a 90's baby.

Almost everything I listened to last year was released for free, and the ones that weren't I bought.

And what does being a 90's baby have to do with anything?

 

[Fruitvale_Mac]

Not just them people like Zion-I, Nickatina, Baby Bash, Heiro, Main Attrakionz. I've seen niggas even hate on E-40 ans Short.

Also Los Rakas, Roach Gigz, HBK Gang, J. Stalin and a couple others.

 

[Gemini]

Almost everything I listened to last year was released for free, and the ones that weren't I bought.

And what does being a 90's baby have to do with anything?

A whole lot, in the sense that 90's babies truly missed out on the golden era of rap music. Yes, a lot of you might go back & listen to the music from the G-Funk / Death Row era. The Mob Music era of the Bay. The E-40: In a Major Way, The Click, B-Legit, Little Bruce, A-1, The Blackalation etc. I give you that, but having not really lived it is not the true experience.

Plus, we embraced our pioneer musicians in all genres of music. A lot of 90's babies / new generation are little brats trying to sweep everything under the rug & coming off like they are inventing everything. We saw the birth of gangsta / mob music rap etc. Back when people would truly be offended by hearing all the cussing LOL! We had to go out and buy the tapes on the day the album dropped at the record store, not download it the moment it leaks online. We didn't get to listen to 4 or 5 singles before the album dropped. We were lucky if we got one. We bought Cd's when they were $25 a piece & there was no free music released.

90's babies have not only had everything handed to them on a silver platter, but typical that when someone doesn't earn something, they don't really know the full value of what it took to make that. And often times not appreciated. This new generation has taken Hip Hop roots (Break dancing / Uprock, straight legged jeans with the tongue of your shoe sticking out) and called it skinny jeans, shuffling / jerking and added a "GAY" twist to it. Trying to make the whole "gay" thing acceptable / the new cool thing to be. Hell with that! I understand everything changes and evolves, but 90's babies have been taking everything to hell in a hand basket at 100 mph.

Granted, some 90's babies are well schooled and hold that original knowledge and continue to push for that original foundation that Hip Hop, Mob Music etc. was built on, but the majority seriously got the game hella fucked up.

 

[wheregoliathat]

Don't forger A-Wax is doing songs & videos with Brick Squad artists like YG Hootie, Waka Flocka Flame & Gucci Mane

[video=youtube;o46uujlVfVE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o46uujlVfVE[/video]

Lil B although you guys dont like his wierd music he's one of the most contreversial and most talked about artists right now and he's putting it down for the bay.

Mistah F.A.B. put out a new album "I Found My Backpack 2 The Lost Notebook" that is getting commercial recognition and collaborated with big name artists like Talib Kweli, Royce Da 5'9" of Slaughterhouse, Prodigy of Mobb Deep, Jadakiss, & Noreaga. Its was even promoted on Suck Free Countdown along with a mini interview with Mistah F.A.B. himself talking about the album.

Kreayshawn although everyone in this forum hates her more than anybody she's is the biggest up and coming artist coming out the bay that as of last year made a name for herself even being nominated for best new artist at the MTV Video Music awards. an achievement that many still havent been able to do. Even collabing with big artists like Snoop Dogg, Juicy J of 3-6-Mafia, 2 Chainz, Trina & Da Brat. Also the beat for Gucci Gucci was used on a Lil Wayne mixtape and a singer from London Covered her song so shes a factor no matter what you think of her music. Not to mention getting a Million Dollar deal from Sony which more than half of you wish you had but front like you dont.

And lastly V-Nasty. although shes annoying as fuck to you guys she is also making a name for herself by Doing a collab album with one of the biggest rappers in the game right now Gucci Mane and doing a mini concert tour and even performing at this Years Bamboozle Festival along with Kreayshawn, Incubus, Foo Fighter, Mac Miller, Blink-182, Bon Jovi & many others.

Reck,
I agree on the A-Wax shit but that really ain't on a more national level then a lot of bay artists have achieved in the past 10 years:

1. Yuk
2. Mess
3. 40
4. Celly Cell
5. Jacka
6. Clyde Carson
7. Ya Boy
8. Keak

No actually national big time national recognition has come to any of them outside of one song by numbers 3 and 4 on the list above.
This is good for A-Wax but has zero effect on the Bay rap scene namely because Wax don't fuck with anyone from the bay really.

Onto Kreayshawn and V-Nasty,
Their popularity has nothing to do with rap and more to do with people infatuation with girls that look like they're 16. They can't fuckin rap man come on dude. Kreayshawn seems hella creative and I'm sure she will make hella money doin something but rappin it ain't go be.

Unfortunately Jay and Ye are watching the throne at the moment. Lil B might be able to bring em a turkey leg to eat while they chillin but I don't think anybody is gonna make room at the table for him cuz like Kreayshawn and V-Nasty he cannot rap either.
Cast and point that colab with Wayne on Sorry 4 the Wait. He spit the worst 16 I ever heard. Dude could get lyrically bodied by Waka lol

 

[Foul Mouth]

They need the support of everyone out here even if you dont feel them....

cus thats how it should be. support artists whos music you dont like.

 

[ThaG]

A whole lot, in the sense that 90's babies truly missed out on the golden era of rap music. Yes, a lot of you might go back & listen to the music from the G-Funk / Death Row era. The Mob Music era of the Bay. The E-40: In a Major Way, The Click, B-Legit, Little Bruce, A-1, The Blackalation etc. I give you that, but having not really lived it is not the true experience.

Well said. I myself am an 80s baby so I grew up in the 90s with both the G-Funk sound and the classic East Coast sound of the time. But I have never been able to fully get into the 80s rap - I like a lot of it, but I have a lot of memoeries of places and times associated with the 90s hip-hop that I simply don't have with the 80s. So I can not feel it the same way. So I am sure those who grew up in the 80s can actually connect to it in the way I connect to the 90s. And those who are 90s babies can not connect to the music from the 90s the way I do so they are missing that feeling completely - they may like the music they grew up with although that's questionable given how more and more ephemeral music has gotten in the last 10-15 years, but in that period hip-hop has stopped being the new exciting revolutrionary movement it was until the mid-90s and they haven't experience that at all...

 

[wheregoliathat]

Damn Gemini brought up Little Bruce

I was just bumpin that XXXtra Manish the other day, mofucka was straight spittin. Then I put in the "Truth Mixtape" and he kinda killed that but was airin 40 and B-la out tough.

lol then I thought of how furious Rossibreath must have been when he heard Little Bruce's the Truth Mixtape for the first time. Probabaly threw up in the car then went home slept for a week and made his friends promise to never play or mention it again

 

[thizz]

Some of yall sound like old bittersweet homophobic hip-hop elitist. Your experience 20 years ago is not better then a kids experience today. The music you listened to 20 years ago men talked about raping men if they were mad at them. That's gay, wearing tight clothes is not. Accept the fact that you are grown ass men in your mid to late 30's upset that the music kids are making today you can't relate to and truth be told you shouldn't. You are too old! Hip-hop has been a culture of "fucc you old niggas" so why should it change because you got old?

 

[Foul Mouth]

A fan is a follower homie.

be a fan cus you like the music, not cus its cool to be the fan.


sending out that message produces hollow talent.

 

[recklessofgilaz]

Some of yall sound like old bittersweet homophobic hip-hop elitist. Your experience 20 years ago is not better then a kids experience today. The music you listened to 20 years ago men talked about raping men if they were mad at them. That's gay, wearing tight clothes is not. Accept the fact that you are grown ass men in your mid to late 30's upset that the music kids are making today you can't relate to and truth be told you shouldn't. You are too old! Hip-hop has been a culture of "fucc you old niggas" so why should it change because you got old?

this man has a point ya'll

 

[antilabs]

fuck lyrics. lyrics don't make shit hot in 2012 presence does.

 

[Gemini]

Some of yall sound like old bittersweet homophobic hip-hop elitist. Your experience 20 years ago is not better then a kids experience today. The music you listened to 20 years ago men talked about raping men if they were mad at them. That's gay, wearing tight clothes is not. Accept the fact that you are grown ass men in your mid to late 30's upset that the music kids are making today you can't relate to and truth be told you shouldn't. You are too old! Hip-hop has been a culture of "fucc you old niggas" so why should it change because you got old?

When did Nirvana say fuck The Rolling Stones? Or Taylor Swift say Fuck Dolly Parton? Lady GaGa say fuck Madonna? The music evolves. Hip Hop stopped being a young man's game when Pac & Biggie died. When you had people like Jay-Z comeback over 30 and released albums with a more mature perspective. Ice Cube pushing 40 (or early 40's) and taking it back to being independent. Artist like LL Cool J (mid 40's) who has had a hit on most of his albums. Producers / artist like Dr. Dre (45 - 46) will outsell any newcomer hands down. Quincey Jones not producing his greatest album of all time until he hit the age of 50 (Michael Jackson: Thriller.) Talent has no timeline my friend.

And no new rapper today or anybody on Thizz has even come close to making the impact and become a legend like the ones mentioned above. Much less have the longevity.

That's the 90's babies metality, "Fuck the old." Hip Hop changed that years ago. And your right, Hip Hop is a culture (not just a lifestyle) so quit trying to erase those that laid the foundation for you to stand on.

 

[thizz]

That shit has never changed and I'm talking about Hip-Hop FANS not country, not rock, not classical, not any of that. And every person you named is considered ancient to these young niggas.

 

[doehubba]

THIS NIGGA IAMSU ONE OF DA YUNG NIGGAS POPPIN RITE NOW HE SHOWIN LOVE TO THA 90S ON DIS TRACK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ2lNDWSNDo


NIGGA IMA 1990 BABY I WAS A KID BUT I GREW UP ON ALL DAT SHIT TOO FROM 8-11 IWAS BUYING CDS B4 THAT IWAS DUBBIN TAPES NIGGAS JUST GOTTA UNDASTAND TIME GO ON SHIT CHANGE YUNG BAY NIGGAS SEE DAT WE ALL GOT BAY HUSTLE SO NIGGAS PROMOTE THEYSELF WIT FREE MUSIC AND EAT OFF SHOWS, ALL U OLDER NIGGAS NOT GOIN TO THA CLUBS AND SALIN OUT CONCERTS FOR THA OLDER RAP NIGGAS SO THEY STAY ON DEY GRIND WHERE THEY NOE THEY GON GET SUM TYPE OF DOE FROM YALL AND DATS CDS I GUESS BUT ERYBODY DOWNLOAD SO DAT REALLY AINT SHIT AND IT IS THA BAY TIME

 

[Gemini]

That shit has never changed and I'm talking about Hip-Hop FANS not country, not rock, not classical, not any of that. And every person you named is considered ancient to these young niggas.

So in your words / belief it's fuck E40, Richie Rich, B-Legit, Too Short, MC Hammer, Mac Dre, Cougnut, 2Pac etc. right? All them rappers are ancient to these young 90's babies, right?

 

[Jhawkson]

Born in the 80's and I still bump 90's mobshit, but I also fuck w/ some of these new up & coming rappers. I could give a fuck how old these cats are, if there shit is dope i'll support it. Some young rappers that are dope from the bay :Young Gully, Stalin, Lil Rue, Young Lox, Lil Blood to name a few & not one of those dudes over 25..... & on that same note alot of these producers makin' the dopest sound are youngsters aswell. AK-47 & Jeffro can't even go into a bar & those dudes killin' it on the beat. Just tired of all these youngsters makin' shit that sounds like everything else. Create your own style & eventually something will be noticed if you're talented enough. Sounding like every other rapper wont....