Bay Area Time is Now.
- Thread starter CityDog
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Apples & oranges, Breh. The hardest gangsta needs to understand that he's putting himself out there as an artist. In the music world you are not immune to constructive criticism, your just like everybody else in this music biz. There is a time and place to conduct yourself as a gangster & a time and place to conduct yourself as an artist. By mixing the two you'll find yourself incarcerated for a long time & talking about getting an album deal from behind bars. Dropping an album while incarcerated that was prerecorded. And then talking about you can record a better album because the last one was pasted together & you didn't really have an input. Or not living long enough to see your album drop.
Then dont complain that the ball aint in The Bay Areas court then ( not you exclusivly but in general for everybody). you need to support them all as a unit if you want the machine to work. Yea some might not be dope to you.. but the numbers say ther are so it seems that your reason is bias because the old school aint crackin anymore. you can see this if your going to shows, clubs, house parties, ect ect....thats why there on. You probably dont listen to the radio and thats ok but the siccness cant give you whats really going on in these city social circles and music scene in the Bay Area so i dont expect you to like anything but what you grew up on because your not out following whats really going on. Why arent some of your favorite old school bay rappers on like they use too be ? What happened ? Il tell you.. the majority of the youth dont care about gun play, mobbin, thugin, drug dealing, gangsta party
... it has changed to being fly, being different, having fun, not as agressive. There is more then just Vallejo, Oak, SF in the Bay.. there is so many cities that cant relate to the whole mob culture or was never raised to understand it. These are the kids that make up the majority of the audiance of todays rap scene in the bay.. love it or leave it but in time EVERYTHING changes. You dont have to like it but its here on the fore front because more people do. If you want the Bay back on then support , then hit up your favorite old school rapper when the ball is back over here in the bay and give them you expert advice like you do to everybody on this site...it will be there chance to come back and make all you old school bay rap fans happy.
... it has changed to being fly, being different, having fun, not as agressive. There is more then just Vallejo, Oak, SF in the Bay.. there is so many cities that cant relate to the whole mob culture or was never raised to understand it. These are the kids that make up the majority of the audiance of todays rap scene in the bay.. love it or leave it but in time EVERYTHING changes. You dont have to like it but its here on the fore front because more people do. If you want the Bay back on then support , then hit up your favorite old school rapper when the ball is back over here in the bay and give them you expert advice like you do to everybody on this site...it will be there chance to come back and make all you old school bay rap fans happy.
I disagree, a fan is a fan. He / she stands on their own and supports what they like. Not what they're Homies are saying is tight and they simply agreeing to it to fit in.
If I'm not feeling it I'm not supporting it, bottom line. All this fiddle faddle yada yada yada means nothing to me for the fact that I'm not supporting anything I dislike just to make it look good for everybody else.
This (IMO) has nothing to do with Old School / New School. It has to do with supporting / rooting for something you truly don't like. That's like saying, I'd pay to watch a bunk ass movie that I have no interest in just because everybody else say's it's tight & it's number 5 at the box office. So I'm gonna go pay to watch it just to try & bring it up to number 1 even if I don't like it? I think not my friend, sorry.
If I'm not feeling it I'm not supporting it, bottom line. All this fiddle faddle yada yada yada means nothing to me for the fact that I'm not supporting anything I dislike just to make it look good for everybody else.
This (IMO) has nothing to do with Old School / New School. It has to do with supporting / rooting for something you truly don't like. That's like saying, I'd pay to watch a bunk ass movie that I have no interest in just because everybody else say's it's tight & it's number 5 at the box office. So I'm gonna go pay to watch it just to try & bring it up to number 1 even if I don't like it? I think not my friend, sorry.
The last (and only) time the Bay was hot, in the mid-90s, it was not because people were "supporting" everyone as a unit. It was because the music was good.
Now it's not.
How about music becomes good again, and then we can talk all we want about supporting it. It's probably not going to be necessary
You're missing the point. The OP was talking about the Bay making it big again. For the Bay to make it big as a whole (we ignore the very relevant question whether at this point a region can do that given that hip-hop is in its post-regional era right now), the Bay needs to drop good music in general.
That's not the case - the good music is a tiny fraction of the total. I can pick any album released in the Bay last year that I haven't listened to and I can be reasonably sure it will be garbage; it will be a big surprise if it is not. This includes a lot of the albums that get talked about here as if they're hot, BTW. It has been like that since the early 00s and it has been getting worse and worse (in the mid 00s there were good albums, it is very very hard to find them now).
That's not the case - the good music is a tiny fraction of the total. I can pick any album released in the Bay last year that I haven't listened to and I can be reasonably sure it will be garbage; it will be a big surprise if it is not. This includes a lot of the albums that get talked about here as if they're hot, BTW. It has been like that since the early 00s and it has been getting worse and worse (in the mid 00s there were good albums, it is very very hard to find them now).
Personally it's not hard for me to find them. I have 92 Bay Area albums on my computer from 2011... out of them, I really liked 46 of them, liked 12 of them and disliked the rest. The amount of music I liked is more than enough to make checking for Bay rap every year worthwhile. Between the last three years, there's been over 150 Bay albums that I really liked that I still listen to regularly. A garbage scene IMO would not produce that much...
If I only listened to Mobb Music, I could understand why it would be hard to find music I liked in 2012, but I can appreciate just about anything in Hip Hop as long as it's done well.
If I only listened to Mobb Music, I could understand why it would be hard to find music I liked in 2012, but I can appreciate just about anything in Hip Hop as long as it's done well.