All-Pro Football 2K8.... FUCK MADDEN!

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what's the use of 2k8 when you can't even build a dynasty? they used to have a college 2k series but what happened to that? could you even convert your players over to get drafted?
 
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Yes, you could draft players from the 2k college game to nfl 2k. EA bought the righhts to NCAA, in their bout of extreme paranoia that god forbid there be a better game out than EA.

My bias towards EA is completely justifiable. I don't hate their games as much as most believe, I just think the consumer should have a choice of what game he would like to play, and EA is taking away that choice simply because it hurts their pocketbook.
 
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Masked Lemon said:
Yes, you could draft players from the 2k college game to nfl 2k. EA bought the righhts to NCAA, in their bout of extreme paranoia that god forbid there be a better game out than EA.

My bias towards EA is completely justifiable. I don't hate their games as much as most believe, I just think the consumer should have a choice of what game he would like to play, and EA is taking away that choice simply because it hurts their pocketbook.
they had more money then 2k sports and had a better business plan that the nfl players union and the ncaa guys supported. if you know anything about business EA sports made a fantastic move by acquiring the rights to nfl players and ncaa games. not becuase they were scared of 2k sports but becuase they can make lots more money this way.
 
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I just read that Madden 2008 will implement an "all-new" READ & REACT system that will show players' special abilities such as "possession catch", "route cuts", "bullet pass", "precision pass"...you get the idea. This is a complete and BLATANT RIP OFF from APF 2K8.

http://www.easports.com/maddennfl/features.jsp

EA obviously stole from APF 2K8. This was "tacked on" by EA at the last minute. How do I know? Well, the abilities were changed ever so slightly from APF 2K8's player abilities probably to protect from getting sued. "Route God" is now "Route Cuts"..."Laser Pass" is now "Precision Pass"..."Rocket Arm" is now "Bullet Pass". Also, why would Madden, which uses a NUMBER rating system (SPEED: 95 AGILITY: 92, etc.) need to include a ABILITY rating system when the NUMBER rating system's sole purpose is to RATE ABILITIES?!?!

Shame on you, EA. You make me sick.

I know APF 2K8 will never sell as many copies as Madden 2008. I am a realist. However, Madden will NEVER, EVER have the one thing that APF 2K has...and that, my friends, is INTEGRITY!!!
 
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Masked Lemon said:
I just read that Madden 2008 will implement an "all-new" READ & REACT system that will show players' special abilities such as "possession catch", "route cuts", "bullet pass", "precision pass"...you get the idea. This is a complete and BLATANT RIP OFF from APF 2K8.

http://www.easports.com/maddennfl/features.jsp

EA obviously stole from APF 2K8. This was "tacked on" by EA at the last minute. How do I know? Well, the abilities were changed ever so slightly from APF 2K8's player abilities probably to protect from getting sued. "Route God" is now "Route Cuts"..."Laser Pass" is now "Precision Pass"..."Rocket Arm" is now "Bullet Pass". Also, why would Madden, which uses a NUMBER rating system (SPEED: 95 AGILITY: 92, etc.) need to include a ABILITY rating system when the NUMBER rating system's sole purpose is to RATE ABILITIES?!?!

Shame on you, EA. You make me sick.

I know APF 2K8 will never sell as many copies as Madden 2008. I am a realist. However, Madden will NEVER, EVER have the one thing that APF 2K has...and that, my friends, is INTEGRITY!!!

They announced this a long, long time ago.. It was one of the big features of the new Madden...

The number rating system is always going to be there, or else everybody would play exactly the same, yet with a few subtle differences... All the speedy players, would be the same speed, and the all the normal players would be the same after that..

You still need individual rankings or it'll turn into shit.

Somebody made a post about a week ago that had all the people with special abilities in the game.
 
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I just read that All-Pro uses the stick for kicking now..

They totally stole that from EA.

Shame on you, 2K Sports, shame on you...



Also, NCAA 08 and Madden 07 both got higher reviews from Gamespot and IGN than All-Pro Football..

Those are the only two sites I checked..
 
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Likwid said:
Dude you're fucking psychotic over this shit.
That was a post from the 2k sports board, thought it would be relevant here.


I think it's funny how uptight people get over this. I've stated many times that I AM going to purchase Madden 08, for the Wii... but yet I'm slammed for being a 2k fanboy. Doesn't make sense to me, but whatever. You're not going to change my opinion of the games, just how I'm not going to change yours.
 
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I personally think APF is better than Madden last year, butunfortunately, Madden has more features.

APF's gameplay shits all over madden 07, and IMO NCAA 08, which feels stiff and robotic to me.

To those of you that are Madden faithful, when you play APF, do you still run 15 yards out of the pocket, and throw the pass in the opposite direction you are running? I see people doing this all the time in Madden, but you can't pass successfully without your feet firmly planted in APF.


Every review I have read for APF says that the gameplay is solid, it loses points for not having a franchise mode. To each his own, though.
 
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Hey Masked Lemon, I know this is waaaaay off topic but I figured if anyone would know on the sicc it would be you....

Have you heard of any news about new boxing/fighting games to be released on either the 360 or PS3? I know theres a badass UFC game coming out next year I believe, have you heard of anything else, like fight night round 4 or some shit?
 
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Masked Lemon said:
Every review I have read for APF says that the gameplay is solid, it loses points for not having a franchise mode. To each his own, though.
its always been like that for the next gen madden series. great gameplay, less features on the ps2 version for 10 bucks less. which always negatively affected the score on the review. also lots of minor features were missing the first go around.
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
Hey Masked Lemon, I know this is waaaaay off topic but I figured if anyone would know on the sicc it would be you....

Have you heard of any news about new boxing/fighting games to be released on either the 360 or PS3? I know theres a badass UFC game coming out next year I believe, have you heard of anything else, like fight night round 4 or some shit?
Nothing was shown or hinted at at E3, but I would expect Fight Night Round 4 sometime either this holiday or early next year for 360 and PS3.

I know there is an anime style Boixing game coming in Sept. for the Wii, but it is said to have shitty controls. I think it's called Victorious Boxers or some shit like that.

Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo HD Remix is coming this holiday for XBLA and PSN. It is being completely redone, every single spite of every fighter and background, new endings, the works... That one is way up there on my must have list.
 
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I'm guessing Fight Night Round 4 will come out in March of next year.

It seems to normally come out in Spring.. I've been waiting for a new boxing game for a while, though. The new one has to have a really deep and cool career mode, though.
 
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Robby2Slobby said:
I'm guessing Fight Night Round 4 will come out in March of next year.

It seems to normally come out in Spring.. I've been waiting for a new boxing game for a while, though. The new one has to have a really deep and cool career mode, though.
Yeah that's what I'm waiting for but the only problem is that EA has made no mention of it, so many have speculated that the series is either done, or they wont make another until '08/09, which is unfortunate because I think Fight Night is the best boxing game ever created.

Round 3 has some major improvements as for as actual fighting goes (different styles/defense, etc.), however for some reason EA really fucked up on the career mode and took like 5 steps back for some reason. Fucking EA. The least they could have done was keep everything the same from FN2, and just improve the actual game-play, fucking idiots. BTW, the PS3 version has a pretty amazing first person view thats fun as hell to play with.

@Masked Lemon,
Thanks for the info. I always wanted to check out the boxing game for the wii, looks fun as hell.