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MKB

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people that say jet fuel caused the fires that burned down any of the buildings is retarded


its a proven fact that jet fuel doesnt burn at a high enough temperature to do damage to the steal that the buildings are made of


step your chemistry game up
No I think you need to step yours up they never said the steel melted it was weakened by the fire and the expansion and contraction of the steel caused the exterior columns to be pulled in. Remember in 2007 when a tanker truck crashed and the fire brought down a portion of the MacArthur Maze? You can't tell me anything besides the fire caused that collapse because the bridge was above the accident and was not damaged by the truck crashing. So please do your homework before you call someone retarded because I have a good understanding of the mechanics of materials seeing as how I am a structural engineer.
 

MKB

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PAY ATTENTION TO THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE BUILDING
You need to watch the full collapse the penthouse collapses into the building way before the rest of the building comes down. Take a look at this video, the one posted before in this thread is better quality and also shows the penthouse coming down way before the full building.

 
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No I think you need to step yours up they never said the steel melted it was weakened by the fire and the expansion and contraction of the steel caused the exterior columns to be pulled in. Remember in 2007 when a tanker truck crashed and the fire brought down a portion of the McArthur Maze? You can't tell me anything besides the fire caused that collapse because the bridge was above the accident and was not damaged by the truck crashing. So please do your homework before you call someone retarded because I have a good understanding of the mechanics of materials seeing as how I am a structural engineer.
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people that say jet fuel caused the fires that burned down any of the buildings is retarded


its a proven fact that jet fuel doesnt burn at a high enough temperature to do damage to the steal that the buildings are made of


step your chemistry game up
Yes, that fire was hot enough to weaken steel...look it up. There are pictures of bowed steel on those buildings as well if you don't believe science.
 

MKB

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Yes, that fire was hot enough to weaken steel...look it up. There are pictures of bowed steel on those buildings as well if you don't believe science.
And for good measure see how the steel girders are bent at the start of the video? And those aren't small pieces of steel either yet the fire has caused the steel to become elastic.

 
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have u not seen the pictures of the steel supports at ground zero? they were cut, just like in a demolition
Like I said before, in order to effectively demolish a building, the building would have to be, well, gutted for lack of a better term. Walls would need to be knocked down, charges would have to be placed on the support system, and then covered up (in this case) with new walls.

On top of that, watch any video of a demolition and notice how the buildings bottom floors give way. This was not the case @ the WTC, as the collapse happened at the points of impact.

About the steel being "cut", several eyewitnesses stated that they heard what sounded like creaking steel being snapped in half. If it was controlled, I believe the design would have been better and the steel beams would not have looked like an audio wave...as seen in this picture.

Furthermore, they are lacking the presence of the 2 main components only found in thermite. The rest of the shit they found are common components in paint, paper, batteries, etc. etc...as seen on the video I posted debunking the fuck out of the "thermite" theory. First people said "explosions" were heard...that turned out to be false. So, theorists moved on to the thermite theory...which is now being proven false.
 
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it is the shadow goverment and they been intact since at least iran contra ,and for you fools who do not see it i feel sorry for you. an event of this magnitude could only be pullt off by some one who has have accsess to both the goverment apparatus and the itelligence comunity.if you think it was some dude in a cave you are still living in the land of myth and bed time stories. if a crime is comitted the first thing you do is look who gains on the crime and it is obvesily not the muslims and the arabic world and it is obviesly not you !check out the us crime record and who's behinde it and you will at least get an idea who could pull off such a thing .
 
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it is the shadow goverment and they been intact since at least iran contra ,and for you fools who do not see it i feel sorry for you. an event of this magnitude could only be pullt off by some one who has have accsess to both the goverment apparatus and the itelligence comunity.if you think it was some dude in a cave you are still living in the land of myth and bed time stories. if a crime is comitted the first thing you do is look who gains on the crime and it is obvesily not the muslims and the arabic world and it is obviesly not you !check out the us crime record and who's behinde it and you will at least get an idea who could pull off such a thing .
That man in the cave is worth more money than you can imagine. Did the U.S. gov't also ask him to take responsibility for this crime? Not only that, but are you trying to tell me that people only commit crimes if they gain something from it? People get murdered every day by somebody that does not like them...and it's that simple. Why is it hard to believe that somebody can get on a plane, hijack it, and crash it? Somebody jacked a god damn plane in Mexico earlier this week. If he took control of it, he could have done anything he wanted with it (if he knew how to fly it). In this case, these dudes knew how to fly fuckin' planes.

It's not like these dudes stole fighter jets from a secure location...they stepped into passenger planes legally, and jacked the shit (which used to be done CONSTANTLY in the 1970's and 80's). Everything after that happened as a result of the crashes...it's been proven OVER and OVER again.
 

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both sides make good points. personally, i just do not see the conspiracy. but i will listen and read all the information regardless.
 
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That man in the cave is worth more money than you can imagine. Did the U.S. gov't also ask him to take responsibility for this crime? Not only that, but are you trying to tell me that people only commit crimes if they gain something from it? People get murdered every day by somebody that does not like them...and it's that simple. Why is it hard to believe that somebody can get on a plane, hijack it, and crash it? Somebody jacked a god damn plane in Mexico earlier this week. If he took control of it, he could have done anything he wanted with it (if he knew how to fly it). In this case, these dudes knew how to fly fuckin' planes.

It's not like these dudes stole fighter jets from a secure location...they stepped into passenger planes legally, and jacked the shit (which used to be done CONSTANTLY in the 1970's and 80's). Everything after that happened as a result of the crashes...it's been proven OVER and OVER again.
first off they barely knew how to fly a plane and with the shit they pulled of that day you have to know more that go ask a pilot.second you make it sound so fucking easy like it's just to walk on to a plane and take controle over it and then you fly it precisely in to it's target with no help from the air trafic controler,yeeh thats very likely.and yes you are right people committe crimes for no fuckin reason but it is just funny when a geo political master plans get kicked off right after them.
 
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first off they barely knew how to fly a plane and with the shit they pulled of that day you have to know more that go ask a pilot.second you make it sound so fucking easy like it's just to walk on to a plane and take controle over it and then you fly it precisely in to it's target with no help from the air trafic controler,yeeh thats very likely.and yes you are right people committe crimes for no fuckin reason but it is just funny when a geo political master plans get kicked off right after them.
They had enough airtime and training to legally fly planes in the United States. Only one guy wasn't as qualified, but all he had to do was steer the fuckin' thing. Are the voice recorders not enough for you? They have audio of the hijackers, cockpits being stormed, pilots getting fucked up, phone calls from the planes. You act like it's that hard to take some shit over with a few people when nobody is expecting it. Like I said, it used to happen CONSTANTLY! Read up on it, learn your history, then tell me it was THAT DIFFICULT to jack an aircraft. The element of surprise is a motherfucker.

On top of all that, they had weapons. They have audio of flight attendants saying other crew members had been stabbed. WTF more proof do you need? Do you need a video tape from the plane?
 
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if anyone has any wonders about the world trade, look up WTC building 7.

able danger.

muthafuckas still contemplating if 9/11 is fake or not. start catching on to this healthcare/swine flu, thas the most recent shit that'll have you knowin' there's something going on IF & only IF you do your thorough research.
 

MKB

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if anyone has any wonders about the world trade, look up WTC building 7.

able danger.

muthafuckas still contemplating if 9/11 is fake or not. start catching on to this healthcare/swine flu, thas the most recent shit that'll have you knowin' there's something going on IF & only IF you do your thorough research.
You have obviously not read the entire thread many people have mentioned WTC 7 and the reason for the collapse is known.
 

CNI

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That man in the cave is worth more money than you can imagine.

...it's been proven OVER and OVER again.
Yes, the dude in the cave is worth ridiculous bread. Has been paid and trained by the US Gov since the 1980`s. The Bush and Bin Laden families have been in business for decades. Before 9/11, the Wall Street Journal had called on the Bush family to end ties with the Bin Ladens.

There is also the concern over PNAC. The main members of the organization all ended up in the White House under Bush. They called for a "Pearl Harbor" type event to bring upon the change they saw needed. They called for "total war", no stages, just flat out total war. 9 months after Bush takes office, 9/11. What happened right after that? Oh yeah. War on terrorism. So who`s the enemy in that war? Terrorists? Go ahead and look up who the government calls terrorists and you`ll see that it includes people like us. Regular ass Americans. They even had returning troops until it caused an uproar, so they changed that part. How kind of them. Makes me feel all warm and safe now. lmao

And that shit that these debunkings have been proven over and over........ yeah, just like JFK. I can`t say how many times I`ve seen that bullshit on History and Discovery trying to explain that Oswald was the lone gunman. Even had a military rifleman prove that Oswald could have made all 3 shots in same time. Funny thing though, Zapruder film shows final shot throws JFK`s head back and to the left. Shooting from behind him and still made his head go back and not forward? That was an amazing bullet. I need some of those!
 

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And I'm far from closed minded...I've looked at both sides of the story because I personally like to look into shit...and I know it's possible...but I don't believe it in this case. Too many holes in the conspiracy theories, and pretty solid evidence for the opposite argument.

Plus, you kill your own argument by telling me (somebody you don't know), that I'm closed minded. Which tells me that you don't need any rock solid information on something/somebody to make up your mind about it/them.
No dog, I don`t know you. But from what I`ve seen in your posts and aspects that you take from this to the swine flu, you stand right with what the government says. I`m not one to believe everything I hear or see, it`s the exact opposite. I don`t believe shit until it can be proven without a doubt. And as of now, the government hasn`t done that. There are far too many coinsidences for my liking to sit there and say, "yep, they`re right". Terrorists hijacked these planes and did this to kill the infidels. Only thing, there are 7 of these fucks still ALIVE! OH, WHOOOOOOOOPS! I guess they made a few typos on the names. Shit. Honest mistake.

And yeah, just like it was true Iraq had something to do with this, and they had WMD`s, too. Oh wait. Another fucking WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS!

My point is this bro, because you stand where you do, as do I, I don`t see us ever finding the truth about what happened or who was really involved. They covered up JFK, and are doing the same now with 9/11. They have a history of lying to the American people in order for us to go along with their agendas. Fuck that! I`m tired of being their slave.

The only thing we got out of this is having our freedoms restricted. Just like Nazi Germany. There are far too many parallels to feel comfortable. In the end, I guess it really doesn`1t matter. When they decide to cause the next attack on our soil, on our freedom, we all become slaves or dead. As for me? Yeah, I`ll be dead because I`m going out fighting just like my founding fathers did. As a Marine, it`s my duty to protect our Constitution. It`s obvious some have no idea what that means.