man this thread just keeps getting worse. Bout the white boy shit, and the mainstream, im a 25 year old white boy, that doesnt listen to weak ass garbage shit. Wayne to me in that list of rappers that are overrated. To me to have a title of a good ass rapper, you gotta write your own shit. But it has something to do with the fact he imitates other rappers more then he raps like himself. He use to go a lot harder before he went into his jay z whoever the fuck he is now faze. But hey too each is own I ain't gonna hate on anyone bout their music taste even if its wayne. There could be a lot worst shit to listen to. Mike jones comes to mind on the gimmick shit. I 'm just a fan of good music, be it gansta rap, mainstream underground dont give a fuck what it is, if it goes hard I bump it. Just don't base rappers talent by record sales, because that shit does not make talent. That and record sales are so fucked up now in the game its not even worth listing those numbers. If you dont release mainstream love song / club hits and a single that has something that the "white crowd" will bump it aint gonna sale. Yes this is comin from a white guy, but I dont buy out shit because of a song they play 3 million times on the radio. I buy shit if it has good lyrics, beat, and some real content, not my jewelery shine my grill go hard i killed a motha fucka in the eye with my nine, type shit. Gotta have more to a track then "radio" hits.