WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH KIDS NOWADAYS?

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5ive1en you must be every girls best best friend huh? Dr. Phil syndrome having ass fool.......
Yes, I am a fool for wanting whats best for my kid. Right...

I am a psych-major, with an emphasis on child psychopathology (abnormal child psychology).

I am for whatever is best for the child. Every good parent should want the same, in my opinion. I am mature enough to be able to put spousal problems aside, when it comes to deciding what is best for the child.

You - on the other hand, seem to be more concerned with spiting your BM, regardless of the fact that some of your spiteful actions may be harming your child.
 
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Shit man, when I was a kid, I would....


Break windows
make sling shots
make bean shooters
build fortresses in backyard and go at war with the other kids in the neighborhood
ride my bike and hit the jumps
skateboard, build ramps
make homemade kites
burn shit
go on missions around town on my bike, ride to 7-11, liquor store,etc...
hit the sewers up and go on a journey inside
play baseball, football, soccer, basketball
Man! You took it back for real! Remember playin in canyons? Makin ramps in the street to jump wit ur bike, and throwin rocks at cars? Playin knock knock zoom. Waitin for the ice cream truck to drive off and then hop on the back. We used to ride bikes from skyline to sweetwater high in national city wit no money and not be hungry. These new mallenium kids are gay!
 

jr916

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^^that shit seems weird now tho,not eatin and shit, and in the summer it was a bowl of cereal like at 8 in the morning and then dinner when you got home like at 10
 
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You dont know shit about my parenting skills homie, so slow your role.

yes, you got bitch tendencies, & what makes it even more obvious to us reading the thread & not you, is thats exactly how bitches are.... oblivious.

now run along, google your parenting 'statistics' & walk a day in a muh fuckers shoes before you start to judge, punk.





Exactly, ...homie needs to nut check real quick.

My BM is a bitch, & unlesss he is sticking his dick in her, he dont know shit.

lol..

There you go AGAIN, rambling about your baby-mama drama. This thread is about kids NOT, I repeat *not* about how much of a bitch your BM is.

"My babymama is SUCH a bitch. I just hate her SO much. She is such a CUNT. Oh how I hate my baby-mama!"

Waaaa waaaaaa waaaa.... do you need a fuckin' tissue or what? Jesus-fuckin-Christ..

Oh, and do me a favor will you, Shea? Since I'm so "oblivious" to my so-called 'bitch tendencies', enlighten me as to exactly what my bitch tendencies are? I would be forever grateful.

Because in my opinion, you're the one with BITCH tendencies, since you can't seem to stop BITCHING about how much of a BITCH your BITCH is. :)

Be a real fucking man. Quit whining about your BM. Put your petty-ass relationship issues aside and do whatever it takes to make sure your son is being taken care of in the best way possible. EVEN, if it means you have to swallow your pride, extract your testicles from the inside of your fucking prostate, and 'side' with that obnoxious cunt mother of your child.

A REAL man wants only whats best for his son. Fuck the dumb shit.
 
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My kid gets taken care of better then 99.9% of the so called 'fathers' I know.. you seriously have no clue.

Do I need a tissue? nah... I dont shed tears over females

you come in sidebusting because me & my kid play a few video games, bashing my fathering skills when you know nothing about them... thats what females do... SIDEBUST. ..talking about Im turning him into a couch potato.

your dumb as fuck, degree or no degree, you sound like a punk.

ole Dr. Phil ass muh fucker.

thats your BITCH tendencies.


you have kids?
You seem to be missing the point Shea. Lets retrospect for a minute, shall we?

Original post of thread:

I just understand why these kids can't read yet. sit on the fuckin couch allday. Don't know how to use the microwave, can't pour they own drinks, spill shit everywhere, can't wash a dish, can't serve they own food. Tell them to feed the dogs and they put not even a handfull of food in the bowls. Leave their shit everywhere. Beg and beg and beg and beg for more shit. Ask the same question over and over and over.

BUT THEY CAN MASTER PLAYSTATION and Wii like they're GOD.
Your response to thread:

I actually catch bullshit from my BM if me & my son sit around & play video games.

She's like "he needs to be outside & getting his energy out, not running errands & playing video games'

you know what I usually respond with?


NOT A GAWT DAMN THING...... TALK TO YOURSELF BITCH.... I QUIT LISTENING, WHEN I QUIT FUCKIN


fuck these worn out ass bitches.
Do you see the irony?

This is what this thread is about. This is the reason why I 'sidebusted'. In your post, you implied that whenever your BM insists you do something more productive with your child instead of sitting on the couch playing video games, you ignore her.

You are a male role-model to your child. A son is most likely to model the behavior of his father than that of his mother. He looks up to you.

So when his mother (a less-intense influence on his behavior) confronts his father (a more intense influence on his behavior) about doing something more productive, the father ignores the mother. If the child repeatedly witnesses the father ignoring the mother for this reason, the child is conditioned to believe playing video-games is more important than doing something more constructive outside of the home. The child is reinforced in two ways for playing video games. He is reinforced by the pleasure he gets from playing the game, and by the assurance he gets from his father on video game playing being more important than outside activities.

Then, there is also the concept of 'generalization' and 'modeling'. The child is likely to model the behavior of the father. He may model the way the father 'ignores' the mother when she talks. The child may generalize and associate mother with other female authority figures. For example, teachers. The child as a result may ignore his teacher (the way the father ignores the mother when asked to do something constructive), when asked to perform a specific task in the classroom.

You see where I'm going with this?

Kids are HIGHLY impressionable, and every action around them must be taken into account.

You're right. I don't know you. I don't know your BM. You may be an excellent father, and I really hope that you are. But, from reading your posts one can't help but to assume otherwise.

Nevertheless, it was wrong for me to judge your parenting tactics based on just one post. So for that, I do apologize.
 

jr916

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maybe I miss the humor in his post.
im giving you gold, instead of sayin i think i dude is way out of pocket for tryin to judge sumones parenting skills over the internet, i can almost guarantee your a good dad to have, i just summed it up
 
May 9, 2002
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It is NOT always the parents fault. 100% about the parents? You can't possibly make such a statement without properly analyzing the child. If you witness a child disobeying his parent, acting out, and only being able to stay focused when playing a video game; how do you know this is a product of bad parenting and not due to a genetic disorder? Conduct-Disorder and Opposition-Defiant-Disorder have been PROVEN to be genetic.
Apparently, you have a reading comprehension problem. This thread is about kids being lazy and doing nothing but playing video games. THAT, is the parents FAULT. That has ZERO to do with the kids. Parents are supposed to set a prescedent FOR their children. If a child is LAZY, that is 100% THE PARENTS FAULT.



Etiology of ODD/CD

Ÿ Genetic Influences
§ Heritability = 50% for antisocial behavior
Ÿ Twin concordance:
§ MZ = .85
§ DZ = .70

Meaning, if you have an identical twin with Conduct Disorder, you you have an 85% chance of being born with this disorder too.Twin studies are used to determine whether something is inheritable or whether it isn't.

Please educate yourself on the topic and refrain from pulling faux facts/statistics from within the deep of your anus.
And what exactly does any of this have to do with, well, THIS THREAD? Nothing. Why you are brining up irrelevent information up in this thread is beyond me. Are you trying to flex your Goggle muscle?

If a child is born with Down Syndrome, he/she will still have Down Syndrome no matter how proactive the parent may be when it comes to helping this child.
Again, what does this have to do with ANYTHING? Being mentally challenged has LITTLE to do with lazy kids playing video games rather than being active.

These disorders are neurological (certain chemicals in the brain do not function as they should).
Who the fuck let Captain Obvious in this thread?

In fact, 80% of children with ADHD have co-morbid disorders (Conduct Disorder, Learning Disorder, Opposition Disorder, etc).
So you want to talk about fallacies, yet here you are using the mutually exclusive rule. Please do not be a hypocrite.

So even with therapy, special school programs, etc; a good parent may be able to keep the symptoms down at bay to a certain extent, but the child will still not be 'normal'.
You need to strike 'normal' from your "theory" here, as normal is a SUBJECTIVE word.

Those who display the least symptoms, have learned certain 'tricks' so to speak on how to work around their disorder. However, if left untreated, the symptoms will become worse. The child will become more violent, for example; as opposed to just not being able to focus during a task in school. Parents have to learn how to 'work around' the disorder to achieve best results. The disorder will still be present. ADHD continues into adolescence and adulthood.
Then you say this:

PS: Personal anecdote is NOT evidence. Do not generalize. There are various levels/types of ADHD.
Again with the hypocricy.

I am glad that your friends have learned how to manage the disorder and went on to be very successful. However, this is far from always being the case.
Proof?

The fact that you are playing ADHD up as some sort of mental retardation is laughable. I am sure when you become a psychologists or doctor, you can hand the riddlin out like candy like many of them do. Good luck with that.

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for the record, your whole paragraph was WAY off on me & my sons relationship & what he sees between his mom & I.

Ill let you think your statistics & what your teacher tells you applies to EVERYONE, but thats far from the case



But I am a 'bad example' because we'll play a video game every now & again?

Teaching him to be a 'couch potato' because if the street lights are on, we might chill & relax in front of the TV, before we READ A BOOK in bed to put him to sleep?

5ive1en... your schooling dont apply here.

I got a damn good gameplan & know what I am doing, but appreciate your concern for my childs well being.

maybe I should ask again...


do you have any kids?
1. Statistics DO apply. It is because of 'statistics' that we are able to treat and prevent diseases.

2. I NEVER claimed that my 'statistics' imply to EVERYONE. I merely drew out a possibility (an example of what it COULD amount to), which according to my 'statistics' isn't out of the ordinary. Notice, the repeated use of the word 'may'. For your convenience, I will quote my previous statement, and highlight the word of the day - MAY - in case you missed it the first time around. :)

Then, there is also the concept of 'generalization' and 'modeling'. The child is likely to model the behavior of the father. He may model the way the father 'ignores' the mother when she talks. The child may generalize and associate mother with other female authority figures. For example, teachers. The child as a result may ignore his teacher (the way the father ignores the mother when asked to do something constructive), when asked to perform a specific task in the classroom.
And also for your convenience, I will copy and paste the definition of the word, as according to www.dictionary.com

may
1   /meɪ/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [mey] Show IPA Pronunciation
–auxiliary verb, present singular 1st person may, 2nd may or (Archaic) may⋅est or mayst, 3rd may; present plural may; past might.
1. (used to express possibility): It may rain.
2. (used to express opportunity or permission): You may enter.
3. (used to express contingency, esp. in clauses indicating condition, concession, purpose, result, etc.): I may be wrong but I think you would be wise to go. Times may change but human nature stays the same.
4. (used to express wish or prayer): May you live to an old age.
5. Archaic. (used to express ability or power.)
I hope you are now familiar with the 'may' concept. :)

As far as my implication of you being a bad father because you occasionally play video-games with your son...

Two words: Context Effects. I'll let you look that one up on your own, after re-reading the original post of this thread and your response to it.

Original post of thread:

I just understand why these kids can't read yet. sit on the fuckin couch allday. Don't know how to use the microwave, can't pour they own drinks, spill shit everywhere, can't wash a dish, can't serve they own food. Tell them to feed the dogs and they put not even a handfull of food in the bowls. Leave their shit everywhere. Beg and beg and beg and beg for more shit. Ask the same question over and over and over.

BUT THEY CAN MASTER PLAYSTATION and Wii like they're GOD.
Your response to thread:

I actually catch bullshit from my BM if me & my son sit around & play video games.

She's like "he needs to be outside & getting his energy out, not running errands & playing video games'

you know what I usually respond with?


NOT A GAWT DAMN THING...... TALK TO YOURSELF BITCH.... I QUIT LISTENING, WHEN I QUIT FUCKIN


fuck these worn out ass bitches.
Context-effect.

As far as your question, as to whether I have kids or not. How is this relevant to our discussion? Is a surgeon required to be a survivor of cancer, in order to perform surgery on cancer patients? I fail to see the logic behind your question.

Yes, all kids are different. However, statistics speak for MAJORITY. Not all, MAJORITY.
 
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Apparently, you have a reading comprehension problem. This thread is about kids being lazy and doing nothing but playing video games. THAT, is the parents FAULT. That has ZERO to do with the kids. Parents are supposed to set a prescedent FOR their children. If a child is LAZY, that is 100% THE PARENTS FAULT.
Please educate yourself about ADHD, THEN respond to my post. ADHD is GENETIC DISORDER, hence my comparison of the disease to mental retardation, as it is also a genetic disorder. "This thread is about kids being lazy and doing nothing but playing video games." Children with ADHD hae an nability to sustain attention, particularly for repetitive, structured, and less enjoyable tasks (homework, chores, etc etc.) Children with ADHD LOVE video games, because it is a very stimulating activity, and prevents them from becoming 'bored'. The state of being 'bored' easily is neurological. It's not something they 'picked up' because of bad parenting.

I am not arguing that ALL lazy kids have ADHD, I am however arguing, that not in ALL cases, are parents to blame.


And what exactly does any of this have to do with, well, THIS THREAD? Nothing. Why you are brining up irrelevent information up in this thread is beyond me. Are you trying to flex your Goggle muscle?
This has to do EVERYTHING with this thread, and the point that I was making. I argued that disorders such as ADHD are genetic, in which case bad parenting is NOT to blame. I posted evidence from a twin studies, showing that these disorders ARE in-fact genetic.
Again, what does this have to do with ANYTHING? Being mentally challenged has LITTLE to do with lazy kids playing video games rather than being active.
Again, ‘lazy kids playing video games’ MAY have ADHD, which is GENETIC, just like mental retardation. It is NOT something that can be blamed on bad parenting.
Who the fuck let Captain Obvious in this thread?
I was obviously not obvious enough for you, since you are still having a difficult time grasping the concept of a neurological disorder being genetic.
In fact, 80% of children with ADHD have co-morbid disorders (Conduct Disorder, Learning Disorder, Opposition Disorder, etc).
So you want to talk about fallacies, yet here you are using the mutually exclusive rule. Please do not be a hypocrite.
I am not being a hypocrite. This is NOT something I pulled out of my ass. This is a STATISTIC.


So even with therapy, special school programs, etc; a good parent may be able to keep the symptoms down at bay to a certain extent, but the child will still not be 'normal'.
You need to strike 'normal' from your "theory" here, as normal is a SUBJECTIVE word.
I used quotations for a reason. ‘Normal’ from a psychological point of view = ability to adapt in the environment and achieve developmental milestones. These milestones are dependent on the culture, gender, and age. Normal, being how the majority of children develop and adapt. Schizophrenia = abnormal. ADHD = abnormal.

Those who display the least symptoms, have learned certain 'tricks' so to speak on how to work around their disorder. However, if left untreated, the symptoms will become worse. The child will become more violent, for example; as opposed to just not being able to focus during a task in school. Parents have to learn how to 'work around' the disorder to achieve best results. The disorder will still be present. ADHD continues into adolescence and adulthood.
Then you say this:
Quote:
PS: Personal anecdote is NOT evidence. Do not generalize. There are various levels/types of ADHD.
Again with the hypocricy.
Again, this is according to text. Not something I made up.
I am glad that your friends have learned how to manage the disorder and went on to be very successful. However, this is far from always being the case.
Proof?
Google DSM and ADHD.

The fact that you are playing ADHD up as some sort of mental retardation is laughable. I am sure when you become a psychologists or doctor, you can hand the riddlin out like candy like many of them do. Good luck with that.
Tell that to a parent with an ADHD child. It is a VERY serious disorder and it can be devastating on the child as well as his family. Please educate yourself on this disorder before you reject its seriousness.