Time for a REAL discussion.
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i'm watchin'.. i love the sarcasm.. but the thing is.. these minutemen.. probably can't sense it... this is not about terrorism... the BIGGER picture.. but more about mexicans... 8 afghans via canda border can blow up the san fran bridge... and americans(racist whities) will say "we need a bigger wall"
i know who created aids.
i know who created aids.
I'm not latino, but I think you have racist ideas, sorry bud.
Edit: actually, I think you have, at least sub-conciously, white supremicist ideas. In that you seem to think the US is a white country and white people should say who comes into our country and what they do, and even what 'brown' people should think about the US. Think about it: you think you are somehow better than 'those immigrants', don't you? (despite how many "friends of other races" you have, that's the oldest excuse in the book) It is obvious from your posts...... I'm not mad at you, our society tells you the same message from the time you are born so it is understandable, but it is on you to examine your beliefs if you want others to take your opinions seriously, especially people of color.
Edit: actually, I think you have, at least sub-conciously, white supremicist ideas. In that you seem to think the US is a white country and white people should say who comes into our country and what they do, and even what 'brown' people should think about the US. Think about it: you think you are somehow better than 'those immigrants', don't you? (despite how many "friends of other races" you have, that's the oldest excuse in the book) It is obvious from your posts...... I'm not mad at you, our society tells you the same message from the time you are born so it is understandable, but it is on you to examine your beliefs if you want others to take your opinions seriously, especially people of color.
I'm not going to go through all 11 pages so excuse me if it's already been said but have you ever thought and considered why Mexico is a "corrupted ass country" and why Mexicans leave Mexico in the first place? Could it have to do with NAFTA and free trade which has devastated Mexico?
Little factoid for you: in 1994 there were approximately 2-3 million illegal Mexican immigrants living in the United States. That same year is when NAFTA was implemented. Since then that number has rose to 9-10 million or so.
So perhaps they were booing because she represented Imperialist America which has devastated their homeland and driven prices down so far that farmers can no longer afford to feed their families.
Little factoid for you: in 1994 there were approximately 2-3 million illegal Mexican immigrants living in the United States. That same year is when NAFTA was implemented. Since then that number has rose to 9-10 million or so.
So perhaps they were booing because she represented Imperialist America which has devastated their homeland and driven prices down so far that farmers can no longer afford to feed their families.
Or maybe it had to do with biased ethnic/national pride since it isn't typical for the Layman to express such ideas at a beauty pageant.
^I don't think you're racist, you're being a realist in the face of a bunch of irrational and emotionally driven people, don't worry about the mind games. They want to shame you into believing what they do..
1)Aztecs were mainly from Central America and Mexico, same with the Olmecs, Mayans, etc..
^^However, this is an idiotic statement, but you could of avoided using this red herring if you'd of come to grips with the fact that Mexicans have nothing to do with the Northern tribes of today's United states, they're not descendants of Geronimo and Sitting Bull and only share ties through common ancestry due to them both being descendants of ancient Paleo-Indians, but we don't need any 'racially' justified nationalist claims and demands about this being someone's land just because they share the same skin color and some of the same features as the people who have actually lived here for thousands of years(If African-Americans tried to claim Nigeria today as their land at the expense of the actual Natives there, then there'd be a war!) but don't directly descend from them and are united only under some European imposed blanket term["Native American"]. Not to mention the fact that Latin people are miscegenated.
^I don't think you're racist, you're being a realist in the face of a bunch of irrational and emotionally driven people, don't worry about the mind games. They want to shame you into believing what they do..
1)Aztecs were mainly from Central America and Mexico, same with the Olmecs, Mayans, etc..
^^However, this is an idiotic statement, but you could of avoided using this red herring if you'd of come to grips with the fact that Mexicans have nothing to do with the Northern tribes of today's United states, they're not descendants of Geronimo and Sitting Bull and only share ties through common ancestry due to them both being descendants of ancient Paleo-Indians, but we don't need any 'racially' justified nationalist claims and demands about this being someone's land just because they share the same skin color and some of the same features as the people who have actually lived here for thousands of years(If African-Americans tried to claim Nigeria today as their land at the expense of the actual Natives there, then there'd be a war!) but don't directly descend from them and are united only under some European imposed blanket term["Native American"]. Not to mention the fact that Latin people are miscegenated.
see now where people pull this out of their ass is ridiculous because i never said anything about being better than "brown" people. Fuck that.... anyone who knows me would tell you that too.... i don't think im better then anyone and i never said the US should be a white country and white people should rule.... those are words you put in my mouth that in no way reflect my feelings on thisd matter at all
not sure if that was directed to me, but i thought i told you already..i haven't not for another 2 weeks...fuck, all i have now is busy work, i hate it.
ok but yeah i passed out last night, and i won't let this thread die, its way too important, i'm sorry but this topic is the most important thing i've seen pop up since i've been on here.
but i have my "EVIDENCE" called the true history, and not all that censored shit they teach you at public schools.
well somehow, the treaty of guadalupe-hidalgo was signed feb. 2 1848.
ok and gold was "first found" jan. 24th 1848.
"The upheaval was enormous. Native American cultures that had lasted for thousands of years in California were lost and destroyed. But the Mormon economy in Utah flourished with the large gold riches funneled into their banks. The old Mexican province suddenly became a new state. The gold that enriched California may have even precipitated the Civil War"
from www.historichwy49.com
so some how the white mormons started to flourish in the barren utah.
so let's think about more than "fair and square" and think of the details...
why WOULD we go to iraq to "help out" everyone, when their is a COMPLETE GENOCIDE going on in darfur...well of course for one reason and this is oil...oil means gas, and gas, which is bush's best money maker is very expensive, and has a lot of worth.
so let's relate this back to gold. why would men come to what is now california, and in the area of which gold was found and was completely abundant, they didn't know? it was just a coincidence right...just like the weapons of mass destruction...ahaha and its just a coincidence that iraq has one of the best areas for driving oil...
but then again, everything is a coincidence...there is no corrupt men in our history right...especially with the mormon church..20 wives? c'mon....making up a religion to be a complete pig, is a little sad, but then again he had enough MONEY to make up his own religion...
i wish everything was as easy as pg said, but its not, and thats why everything is complicated....
but there is one thing that is simple, its the fact that good ol' u.s.a. is a lot more corrupt than mexico or any other countries that have been bashed for being corrupt....
our children don't even know the history of people who were murdered, raped, and robbed of everything for you to sit here and bash them.
ok but yeah i passed out last night, and i won't let this thread die, its way too important, i'm sorry but this topic is the most important thing i've seen pop up since i've been on here.
but i have my "EVIDENCE" called the true history, and not all that censored shit they teach you at public schools.
well somehow, the treaty of guadalupe-hidalgo was signed feb. 2 1848.
ok and gold was "first found" jan. 24th 1848.
"The upheaval was enormous. Native American cultures that had lasted for thousands of years in California were lost and destroyed. But the Mormon economy in Utah flourished with the large gold riches funneled into their banks. The old Mexican province suddenly became a new state. The gold that enriched California may have even precipitated the Civil War"
from www.historichwy49.com
so some how the white mormons started to flourish in the barren utah.
so let's think about more than "fair and square" and think of the details...
why WOULD we go to iraq to "help out" everyone, when their is a COMPLETE GENOCIDE going on in darfur...well of course for one reason and this is oil...oil means gas, and gas, which is bush's best money maker is very expensive, and has a lot of worth.
so let's relate this back to gold. why would men come to what is now california, and in the area of which gold was found and was completely abundant, they didn't know? it was just a coincidence right...just like the weapons of mass destruction...ahaha and its just a coincidence that iraq has one of the best areas for driving oil...
but then again, everything is a coincidence...there is no corrupt men in our history right...especially with the mormon church..20 wives? c'mon....making up a religion to be a complete pig, is a little sad, but then again he had enough MONEY to make up his own religion...
i wish everything was as easy as pg said, but its not, and thats why everything is complicated....
but there is one thing that is simple, its the fact that good ol' u.s.a. is a lot more corrupt than mexico or any other countries that have been bashed for being corrupt....
our children don't even know the history of people who were murdered, raped, and robbed of everything for you to sit here and bash them.