Give idea's on how the bay can get back on the map..
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Idea #2: Start a Bay Area Rap Fund and collect the necessary capitol it takes to break artist into the mainstream. 1) Donations/ Contribution would be made to an artist fund. 2) Rappers that are serious will pitch songs, artwork, ideas, etc...to the committee. 3) Committee chooses the best candidate and allocates funds towards developing that artist i.e: Production, Advertising, Videos, Payola...I mean Radio Marketing, and other expenses. 4) Artist becomes successful and must pay committee 50% royalties made from the project, money goes back to develop next artist. 4b) Committee chooses out-of-touch conscious rapper or over-the-hill "Bay Area Legend" and committee loses it's a$$ leaving many in the Bay with yet another reason why it won't "blow-up".....
good idea.
but most young hot bay artists will want money up front because of ignorance. your only as strong as the machine pushing you and your product. skills alone dont pay the bills. most press a few thousand if that and in 2-6 months are harrassing distributors for there measley checks, thus creating conflict of interest business wise. once the potential artists understand the money doesnt come until you are succesful from a business standpoint, pay back the pressing, promo items, radio ads, etc. traveling expenses. alot of costs are not mentioned. once that - is erased then you can see some checks. $100,000 budget isnt shit on a national level. its percentages. you got millions in the bay. if you could get 2% support you would blow up. people need to wake up.
but most young hot bay artists will want money up front because of ignorance. your only as strong as the machine pushing you and your product. skills alone dont pay the bills. most press a few thousand if that and in 2-6 months are harrassing distributors for there measley checks, thus creating conflict of interest business wise. once the potential artists understand the money doesnt come until you are succesful from a business standpoint, pay back the pressing, promo items, radio ads, etc. traveling expenses. alot of costs are not mentioned. once that - is erased then you can see some checks. $100,000 budget isnt shit on a national level. its percentages. you got millions in the bay. if you could get 2% support you would blow up. people need to wake up.
theres probably 100,000 rappers in the bay.
sales are so spread out. my point is artists should humble themselves, come together and everyone support the person that gives us the best chance at success. 100,000 sound scans and they will start looking. but a piece of humble pie and reality are needed.
sales are so spread out. my point is artists should humble themselves, come together and everyone support the person that gives us the best chance at success. 100,000 sound scans and they will start looking. but a piece of humble pie and reality are needed.
your right
big labels are independent businesses as well. they just have money to hire a team. artists trying to do it all dont get very far unless your hungry and got a little money to make the necessary trips to create a buzz outside ones own backyard if that. it starts at home base. if your area doesnt support you no one else will. i think too many artists think that where there from gives them credibility off top. thats not the case. fans base is only as real as the individual spreading the word. you got to believe in yourself before anyone else. thats how this bay independent game started. music isnt as lucrative as it once was. thats why no one spending across the country unless theres a hot single already creating a buzz in that artists back yard.
big labels are independent businesses as well. they just have money to hire a team. artists trying to do it all dont get very far unless your hungry and got a little money to make the necessary trips to create a buzz outside ones own backyard if that. it starts at home base. if your area doesnt support you no one else will. i think too many artists think that where there from gives them credibility off top. thats not the case. fans base is only as real as the individual spreading the word. you got to believe in yourself before anyone else. thats how this bay independent game started. music isnt as lucrative as it once was. thats why no one spending across the country unless theres a hot single already creating a buzz in that artists back yard.
it sounds like you are your biggest fan.
if im not mistaken fans buy cds. shows are a definate good source of revenue if you got that kind of buzz. quality music cant be overstressed. mixing and mastering included. i havent listened to your music so i cant say but if your encouraging the same lifestyle you just stated you left behind then you my friend got it twisted. but hey im one opinion but didnt come on this site to make enemies. i just feel alot more could be going on in the bay with the right artists and direction. once again my opinion.
if im not mistaken fans buy cds. shows are a definate good source of revenue if you got that kind of buzz. quality music cant be overstressed. mixing and mastering included. i havent listened to your music so i cant say but if your encouraging the same lifestyle you just stated you left behind then you my friend got it twisted. but hey im one opinion but didnt come on this site to make enemies. i just feel alot more could be going on in the bay with the right artists and direction. once again my opinion.
your starting to take my opinion personell.
thats on you. my statements are pretty clear. i think you can answer your own question on how its twisted, if you feel targeted by my comment. it was a generalization. if you go to school rap about that. if you left the game behind talk about that. if you a family man talk about that. in the end do you.
thats on you. my statements are pretty clear. i think you can answer your own question on how its twisted, if you feel targeted by my comment. it was a generalization. if you go to school rap about that. if you left the game behind talk about that. if you a family man talk about that. in the end do you.
look folks.
im not saying you cant be succesful. i just feel in order for a bay artist to take it to the big stage a seperation from the pack is needed.what that seperation is, i dont know. if i did, i would help someone with my input. the only ones ready right now in my opinion is frontline. they have the whole package from a label standpoint i believe, and can talk about real shit. and put it in a rap. i think they hurt fools feelings because how good artists they are. atleast locksmith.they just dont have the streets support out here. but the streets are a small percentage of an audience. but in the end hip-hop is street influenced. it is what it is. its not always what you say but how you say it. the radio is a perfect example of that. but hip hop in general not just the bay is definately looking down. the bay has been down. so all im saying ultimately is do you. if your that family guy, theres millions of em. a dude in school. even more. just do you cause in the end that will take you further. not rapping about what 9 out of 10 people are rapping about. once again my opinion. good luck with all your music ventures krypto because if your the guy getting pushed to the forefront, you will get my 13.99
im not saying you cant be succesful. i just feel in order for a bay artist to take it to the big stage a seperation from the pack is needed.what that seperation is, i dont know. if i did, i would help someone with my input. the only ones ready right now in my opinion is frontline. they have the whole package from a label standpoint i believe, and can talk about real shit. and put it in a rap. i think they hurt fools feelings because how good artists they are. atleast locksmith.they just dont have the streets support out here. but the streets are a small percentage of an audience. but in the end hip-hop is street influenced. it is what it is. its not always what you say but how you say it. the radio is a perfect example of that. but hip hop in general not just the bay is definately looking down. the bay has been down. so all im saying ultimately is do you. if your that family guy, theres millions of em. a dude in school. even more. just do you cause in the end that will take you further. not rapping about what 9 out of 10 people are rapping about. once again my opinion. good luck with all your music ventures krypto because if your the guy getting pushed to the forefront, you will get my 13.99
theres some reasons i dont really listen to a lot of bay music
first off
yall come with hot shit, then yall release some super weak shit
why dont you just, get rid of that weak shit? just dont release it
why after a little fallout... yukmouth and his friends talk really bad about eachother, then one makes the other one look like a complete bitch, and vice versa, then they both look like complete bitches.. after that, they retaliate, then they look like two retaliated bitches
(for example, him talkin reckless about rap a lot, that shit doesnt make you look professional, why would anybody wanna fuck with yukmouth if you are gonna get "exposed as a bitch " to the whole world after business doesnt go like it should have
thats probably the biggest part right there, like that Dj who wouldnt play fabs shit,
fuckin ridiculous
why dont you guys just think like...
"what would E-40 DO?"
ima yuk fan btw
(all imo)
first off
yall come with hot shit, then yall release some super weak shit
why dont you just, get rid of that weak shit? just dont release it
why after a little fallout... yukmouth and his friends talk really bad about eachother, then one makes the other one look like a complete bitch, and vice versa, then they both look like complete bitches.. after that, they retaliate, then they look like two retaliated bitches
(for example, him talkin reckless about rap a lot, that shit doesnt make you look professional, why would anybody wanna fuck with yukmouth if you are gonna get "exposed as a bitch " to the whole world after business doesnt go like it should have
thats probably the biggest part right there, like that Dj who wouldnt play fabs shit,
fuckin ridiculous
why dont you guys just think like...
"what would E-40 DO?"
ima yuk fan btw
(all imo)
TAKE THE MUSIC BACK TO CITY'S LIKE OAKLAND, RICHMOND HUNTERS POINT, VALLEJO,EPA, WERE THE REAL NIGGAZ IS AND TALK ABOUT REAL LIFE GRIMMEY SHIT, NOW ADAYS 80 % OF THE BAY RAPPERS ARE SUBURBIAN WHITE BOYS AND ALL OTHER RACES TRYING TO BE ALL HYPHY AND SHIT, I AINT RACIST BUT DAMN WE HAVE THE MOST WHITE BOYS AND INDIAN RAPPERS, THATS NOT APPEALING ATLEAST NOT TO ME, BACK IN THE DAYS IT USE TO BE ALL BLACKED OUT IN THE BAY AND GRIMMEY REAL LIFE STORIES OF THE REAL HOOD LIFE WERE RAPPERS LIKE MASTER P TUPAC AND OTHERS USE TO CALL HOME, I KNOW YALL GONNA COME WITH THE ARGUMENT LIKE "WELL LOOK AT EMINEM HES WHITE"OR LOOK AT PAUL WALL HES WHITE, YEAH BUT THERE WHITE BOYS THAT HANG AROUND BLACK CAMPS AND THERE PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY WHITE DUDES AND THERE GIFTED, HERE IN THE BAY YOU HAVE CAMPS WITH ALL WHITE BOYS AND LIKE 2 BLACK IN THE BACKROUND OF COVERS, THAT SHITY AINT APPEALING ATLEAT NOT TO ME
lol do you not understand that one of the worlds best rappers is white? color dont matter... and grimy shit not gonna appeal to grammy voters and mainstream... im talkin about making some businessmen in the bay area not talkin bout the same shit people doing and not getting out the hood but got more street cred than any man needs... street cred is lovely but it dont feed the family ya dig?