Biggie and Tupac the greatest !!! lmfao

[AegrusMind]

i recently downloaded the tupac discography (7 albums)
and the biggie discography (5 albums) and they were
utter garbage. the production on pacs tracks is bad.
they both predominantly did r n b tracks. very gay.

if these two are the greatest rappers of all time then
no wonder the rap industry is so fucked up. they were
the victim of mass produced crap which they managed to
do thier thing on. good lyricists & vocalists maybe
but ive heard nothing that makes them standout.

is there a ton of tracks ive missed ?

verdict : tupac and biggie were shit

may they rest in peace

 

[mustynutz]

"now you know you done fucked up dont ya....."

 

[AegrusMind]

"now you know you done fucked up dont ya....."

well lets see how many intelligent replies i get :lick:

 

[Sydal]

I'm not a huge biggie fan, but his shit was coo.

As for 2Pac, you must be out of your fuckin gord. 50 Cent is CRAP, most of what you hear today is CRAP. 50 Cent, Snoop (now), and every other mainstream rapper (with the exception of Ja Rule and Eminem), will not make people think and follow them long after death.

2Pac has done what no other rapper has, and that is keep a fanbase long after death. He grabbed EVERYBODY'S attention, he helped people deal with their own struggles through his music, he worried the government through his music, he paid homage to REAL PEOPLE through his music and made millions feel special because they could relate to a person such as 2Pac.....THROUGH HIS MUSIC!

2Pac may have used some R&B style on his shit, but that's not what people focused on. We all focus on what was SAID, 'cause when it comes to Pac, that's all that matters. I could sit down and listen to 2Pac acapellas and be perfectly content, because it's the content in his lyrics that I look for. As for the beats, to each his own. Jonny J, genius producer, same with Shock G, Daz, DJ Quik, Dr. Dre...etc etc...these people are geniuses (IMO).

Your opinion is your opinion...but to call 2Pac SHIT, is like calling Jimmy Hendrix & Marvin Gaye SHIT...it's like calling Michael Jackson SHIT. It's like spitting on Malcolm and Martins' graves, it's like calling the Black Panthers SHIT. It's like spitting in the face of equality, and telling my generation that we're fuckin idiots for listening to him and thinking he was a genius. It's like agreeing with injustices while speaking AGAINST justice. It's like telling babies and mothers and everyday people that there's no fuckin' hope, that we should just lie down and get fucked.

All of this (and MUCH MUCH MORE), is what 2Pac stood for, what 2Pac spoke for and against. Can ya dig it?

Call him what you want, but I guarantee your favorite rapper is nowhere near the level 2Pac was at.

 

[NASA]

LOL...these threads are getting better by the minute.

 

[Dirty Clint]

WTF??

 

[Likwid]

What a fucking moron. Did you sit down and listen to the lyrics? Do you even know what Tupac stood for? You must be a foriegner.

 

[Sydal]

All I gotta say is...Keep Ya Head Up, Brenda's Got A Baby, Life Goes On, Papa's Song, Thugz Mansion, Who Do U Believe In, Dear Mama, Fuck The World, Death Around The Corner, If I Die 2Nite, Panther Power, Krazy, Blasphemy, White Man's World...actually, fuck it, the ENTIRE Makaveli album...

Shall I go on??

 

[Done Deal Kenny]

lol........ no one is near pac and biggie probably is number 2

 

[dj pimp]

pac's production was crap???? wtf??? and are you sure you listened to ready to die with biggie? one of the tightest records of all time. why did you have to download them, dont you already hav them in your collection? if not, that explains everything...

 

[Turf Hitta]

yeah i'd say only jay-z has come close to their greatness...maybe nas and eminem but not really

Jay Z = most overrated ever, comparing him to Pac is damn near disrespectful. I really dont get it when people talk about how great he is.

Eminem??? Who??? Great???

 

[SSProductionz]

Bad production on 2 pac????
Did you not hear all eyes on me? makavalli? That shits MOBB
up untill this hypy shit most beats being produced were aimed to sound like pacs beats. YOu fucking LAME

 

[stingy]

this dude is trippin u can't call yourself a lover of rap (hip hop) or music for that matter to say that those two suck. if u can do what those guys have done & accomplised then maybe what u said would hold any weight. maybe it's over your head? give it a while or a few listens maybe it'll click someday?

 

[Mr. Nice Guy]

Jonny J, genius producer, same with Shock G, Daz, DJ Quik, Dr. Dre...etc etc...these people are geniuses (IMO).

Honestly, Pac worked with some of the greatest producers in rap. The above list already reads like a fuckin all-star team AND you forgot Rick Rock, Mick Mosley, Warren G and QDIII aka Quincy Jones III

 

[Stealth]

If you want an intelligent reply, I want to hear intelligent reasoning for why 2Pac was "utter crap". Please explain your analysis of Tupac. Also, what kind of music were you raised up on? And what kind of rap do you listen to now?

I mean...you know how 99% of peope, regardless of their taste in music say "yeah, I have respect for the Beatles" or "yeah, I have respect for Elvis" or Hendrix or Marvin Gaye or Stevie Wonder or whoever else. Sayin they respect their music whether or not they actually enjoy it.

That's what 2Pac is to rap music.

 

[Stealth]

Your opinion is your opinion...but to call 2Pac SHIT, is like calling Jimmy Hendrix & Marvin Gaye SHIT...it's like calling Michael Jackson SHIT. It's like spitting on Malcolm and Martins' graves, it's like calling the Black Panthers SHIT.

Oh...you already said that. My fault.

Great minds think alike, I suppose.

 

[Sydal]

Honestly, Pac worked with some of the greatest producers in rap. The above list already reads like a fuckin all-star team AND you forgot Rick Rock, Mick Mosley, Warren G and QDIII aka Quincy Jones III

Yea, them too. My list didn't include all of the producers Pac fucked with, which was my point. My list alone was All-Star...your additions (Warren G, QDIII, Mosley, Rick Rock) just makes it even more unfuckwitable...

 

[Sydal]

Oh...you already said that. My fault.

Great minds think alike, I suppose.

Indeed!! We both understand what Pac was to rap music and to the rest of the world. Most rappers are just that, rappers. 'Pac was everything in one person...he was a rapper/actor/poet/activist/revolutionary/lover of children and thought provoking artist/speaker.

 

[Stealth]

You speak the truth. That's why this topic intrigues me so much. This guy is entitled to his opinion, and I'm not gonna try to change his mind or anything. But I'm just really really interested in why he doesn't think Pac was a legend. Maybe he lacks the understanding or the ability to comprehend Pac's meaning, or maybe he sees something that none of us do.

But all that aside, going with what Sydal said, take away the rapper, and I still think Pac was the voice of a generation.

 

[Nuttkase]

Let me start of by saying that I am really not a Pac fan at all. I like some of his songs but that's about it.

With that out of the way calling Pac (and Biggie) shit is just a way of you trying to get a rise out of Pac and Biggie fans on the board (that's what I think atleast.) I might not like alot of Pac's music but I respect what he did for the rap game...Biggie too. Regardless if you or I feel him or not Pac is a legend in the game and should be respected. The man has been dead damn near 10 years and people still talk about him and his music, buy his music and colleges teach courses on the man and his music.

Then you go and say you want to see how many "intelligent" replies you get when in your original post all you did was call them "utter garbage" and "shit." You didn't make a "intelligent" post to begin with. Whatever though you are entitled to your opinion but after reading your post in my opinion you are ignorant as fuck.

Nuttkace