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THERE'S ALWAYS ONE.....

If you were a real Lo"cc" you wouln't be trippin off of how homeboy is writing. What kind of Crip are you? Let him type the way he wants! If you don't like it don't read it. Some people aren't as educated as others or some people just like writing like that. Either way it's nothing to make fun of. D-Jocc! LOL!!

OPEN W-I-D-E......
D-LOCC IS THE KIND OF CRIP WITH STREET GAME, THE KIND OF CRIP WITH A COLLEGE DEGREE, THE KIND OF CRIP WITH A FAMILY TO RAISE, THE KIND OF CRIP WITH A 3 BEDROOM HOUSE AND 2 RIDES, THE KIND OF CRIP THAT HAS CAME A LONG WAYS, THE KIND OF CRIP WITH BILLS PAID OFF, THE KIND OF CRIP THATS ALWAYS LOOKIN FOR A HUSTLE IN EVERYTHING THAT COMES ACROSS MY PLATE, THE KIND OF CRIP THAT HAS KNOWLEDGE TO SPIT....

anything else you like to know about D-Locc you can email me at [email protected]!



GET YO MIND RIGHT CUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!





D-LOCC
 
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YEA I AGREE WIT TAY IN THAT PAC(R.I.P.) DID HAVE A BLUEPRINT OF WHAT THE RAP GAME SHOULD BE. EXSPECIALLY THE WEST COAST. WE DONT HAVE AN ARTIST LIKE PAC FROM THE BAY REPPIN FOR THE WHOLE WEST COAST SAYIN, " FUCK YOU, WE'RE TIGHT WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT . YOUR GONNA LISTEN AND FEEL THIS, BUY THIS AND BUMP THIS." NO ONE RAPER IS GAINIG THE ATTENTION TO TURN HEADS IN THIS DIRECTION. CUZZ PAC DID IT BACK IN 95-96 THE WEST AS A WHOLE GARNERD MORE ATTENTION. THEN YOU GOT YOUR MASTER P'S IN 97-98 ALL OF A SUDDEN THE WHOLE RAP GAME LOOKED DOWN SOUTH FOR A MINUTE AND SHIT JUST STARTS POPPIN UP AND ADDING UP. THEN YOU GOT JAY-Z , DMX, JA-RULE AND ALL THERE LABEL MATES FLOODING THE MAINSTREAM SO NOW THE EAST IS HOT ONCE AGIAN. SINCE ALL THE LABELS ARE FROM THE EASTCOAST MONEY IS BASICLLY GOING TO THE EAST SO THEY CAN AFFORD TO BUY THEIR AIRTIME FOR THE ARTIST AND CONTINUE THE TREND TO STAY ON TOP. SO THE MONEY DOESNT STOP GOING TO THEM. SO OF COURSE NONE OF THE LABELS WILL FUCK WITH THE WESTCOAST UNLESS THEN CAN ACTUALLY MAKE A SIGNIFGANTLY LARGER PROFIT THAN EAST COAST ARTIST. BUT WHY PUT MONEY IN THE WEST WHEN THE EAST IS GETTING A STEADY BANK ROLL FROM THEIR ARTIST. THEY DONT FUCK WITH THE FORMULA THEN THEN FLAVOR DONT CHANGE. AND IT BECOMES BLAND. TILL SUMONE FROM BUTTFUCK COUNTY,CALIFORNIA OR WHERE EVER IN THE WORLD TURNS HEADS AND CONSUMERS GO"OH,THATS A BREATH OF FRESH AIR, SOUND TIGHT I''LL BUY IT."THEN THAT ARTIST GOTS PUSH 30,-40,000 UNITS FOR THE LABELS TO RECONIZE THE SELLING POWER. LIKE THEY HAVE WITH THE SOUTH AT THE MOMENT TO SPRINKLE SUM CASH ON DOWN AND WAIT FOR THE NEXT TREND OF THINGS. BUT IN THE MEAN TIME ARTIST SHOULDNT SETTLE FOR LESS WHEN MAKING AN ALBUM WHEN IT COMES TO MUSIC I'LL TAKE QUALITY OVER QUANITY ANY DAY. THE BAY SHOULD RELIZE THAT. JUST CUZZ YOUR NAMES OUT THERE DONT MEAN ITS GOOD. IT JUST MEANS YOU HAVE MONEY TO RELEASE SHIT.
REMEMBER "IF YOU BUILD IT THEY WILL COME" JUST MY .02 PEACE
 
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cd salez have been declining for yearz ever since cd burning came on the scene... but who gives a fuck if artists from the westcoast are on mtv and bet, they still makin good shit which dont get played out like shit on mtv. I say let the east and south have their bunk ass muzik as long as we got the hottness!

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THE HOMIES CALL ME ALMOST EVERYDAY & BE LIKE IT'S ON YOU TAY..I FEEL EM BUT JUST LIKE A RELATIONSHIP WITH A BREEZY,IF THE LOVE AIN'T PURE AIN'T MUCH YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT..WE KNOW WE GOT TALENT BUT HONESTLY I HAVE LOST A LOT OF LOVE 4 THIS BUSINESS.NOT JUST BECUZ OF MY RUN INS BUT ALL MY PEERS..ONE THING I'M NOT IS GREEDY..GREED IS WHAT DESTROYED THIS GAME..THE BAYSIDES HAD OPPORTUNITIES 2 MAKE SHIT HAPPEN BUT INSTEAD OF LISTENING 2 THE REAL ONES THEY WENT AGAINST THE GRAIN...AT THE TIME ALL THIS DRAMA HAPPENED I PROBABLY HAD THE BEST LOCC ON THE STREETS,MUSICWISE & OTHERWISE,I WAS OUT THERE PUSHIN HARD,NOT 4 ME 4 US..YOU CAN ASK ANYBODY FROM AWOL 2 WHATEVER,I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A TEAM PLAYER & UNFORTUNATELY MAYBE THAT WAS MY DOWNFALL..THE CORPORATE CROOKS REALLY DESTROYED A GOOD THING SO I SAY FAULT THEM..WE ARE ALL STILL BREATHIN' BUT ON THE REAL NIGGAS STARTED FEELING LIKE SLAVES 2 THE GAME & NOW EVERYONE IS BASICALLY JUST TRYING 2 SURVIVE OR FEED THEY FAMILIES.I GOT 4 KIDS...IF IT WAS JUST ME I WOULDN'T COMPLAIN ABOUT NO WHITE PEOPLE NOT GIVING ME MY MONEY,I
WOULD GET OUT ON THE BLOCC LIKE I USED 2 & GET MINES..BUT LIKE I TOLD B-12 & THEM..Y'ALL AIN'T JUST ROBBING US YOU ARE ROBBING THESE INNOCENT BABIES WE BROUGHT INTO THIS WORLD & THEY AIN'T TAKING NO 4 AN ANSWER...MY KIDS GOTTA EAT BEFORE ME...& SINCE THEY COULDN'T RESPECT THAT I WILL TALK ABOUT THEY ASS TIL I DROP DEAD..THEY SAY I SHOULDN'T AIR DIRTY LAUNDRY ON THE NET BUT WHAT'S REAL IS REAL..THEM MF'S AT BAYSIDE TOLD ME I WAS GOING 2 HAVE 2 WORK 4 THE DEVIL...ON MY MAMA...THAT'S WHY I WAS READY 2 SPRAY THE PLACE UP.IT WAS A RACIAL THING & I MIGHT NOT BE A BUSINESS
MAJOR BUT GODDAMMIT I CAN COUNT & MULTIPLY GOOD THAN A MF..& THEY ROBBED A LOT OF MY HOMIES..BUT IT'S CALLED CORPORATE CRIME & UNTIL SOMEBODY WITH MORE POWER THAN US STEPS IN I'M SURE IT WON'T STOP...CASE CLOSED 4 NOW
 
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KILLA TAY said:
..BUT LIKE I TOLD B-12 & THEM..Y'ALL AIN'T JUST ROBBING US YOU ARE ROBBING THESE INNOCENT BABIES WE BROUGHT INTO THIS WORLD & THEY AIN'T TAKING NO 4 AN ANSWER...MY KIDS GOTTA EAT BEFORE ME...& SINCE THEY COULDN'T RESPECT THAT I WILL TALK ABOUT THEY ASS TIL I DROP DEAD.
.THEY SAY I SHOULDN'T AIR DIRTY LAUNDRY ON THE NET BUT WHAT'S REAL IS REAL..
who tha Judge on wutz dirty,
same maggotz who judge to block IP address',
when they the topic of discussion!! and it aint all good..
cant get cleanr than tha truth!!
where b12? anyone knowin...??
iz he takin mo picz holding a Gun up, cuz hiz name come up, and it all bad, again.

F*** 12, and it would be appriciated homie,,, dont give my home # to know more HOEZ!!!! ,,, you feel me... oh and FUCK EVERYBODY.

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KILLA TAY said:
EVERYBODY THINKS THEY GOT WHAT IT TAKES 2 BE THE ONE..BUT BELIEVE ME IT TAKES MORE THAN JUST LYRICS..I'M A VET & ONE THING I DO KNOW IS THAT IT TAKES PATIENCE & THE RIGHT CONNECTIONS...THE HARDEST THING 2 FIND IN THIS GAME IS TRUST...AT FIRST YOUR HUNGER IS JUST 4 SOME SHINE BUT EVENTUALLY YOU LEARN ABOUT THE POLITICS & GET SMART & THEN YOUR GOAL WILL PROBABLY BE THE MILLIONS..THAT'S WHERE ME & THE HOMIE BO ARE AT..WE DONE KICCED IT & GOT THE FAME PART DOWN BUT NOW WE ON SOME SHOW ME THE MONEY SHIT..I HAD 2 JUST SIT OUT & WATCH 4 A WHILE & SEE WHAT I WAS DOING WRONG..I FOUND OUT I WAS COMING A LITTLE 2 REAL..I GOT SOME HEAT ABOUT 2 DROP...IN MY PRIME I
DON'T THINK NOBODY COULD SEE ME ON THE MIC BUT THE GAME CONSISTS OF WAY MORE THAN RAPPIN'.I'M BARELY GETTING MY LOVE 4 THE GAME BACC..I HAD 2 GO THRU MY SPIRITUAL PHASE WHICH BASICALLY JUST HELPS YOU SEE WHO'S REALLY IN YOUR CORNER & WHO'S NOT..IT'S A LOT OF COMPETITION OUT HERE & INSTEAD OF HELPING EACH OTHER MOST OF US ARE HATING 2 SEE THE NEXT MAN SHINE....I THINK THE CIRCLE I'M AFFILIATED WITH RIGHT NOW HAS WHAT IT TAKES.WE'LL JUST HAVE 2 SEE..WHAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT ME IS I GREW UP HALF OF MY LIFE ON THE EAST COAST SO I'LL NEVER HATE ON 'EM
BUT MY HEART IS WITH THE WEST & THAT'S WHO I RIDE 4.I JUST HOPE WE CAN GET THE SUPPORT LIKE WE USED 2 IN THE 90'S CUZ ALL THIS CUTTHROAT SHIT IS WHAT'S MAKING IT SO HARD..IT USED 2 BE A FUN THANG BUT NOW EVERYBODY WANT 2 BE RIDERS..SERIOUSLY,IF YOU AIN'T NO RIDER 4 REAL STAY ON THAT HIP HOP SHIT CUZ THIS IS NOT A GAME & EVERYTHING YOU SPEAK ON WILL HAVE 2 BE SUPPORTED EVENTUALLY..THIS SHIT GETS DEEP;FEDS BE INVOLVED,& UNFORTUNATELY THE GAME IS VERY GANG RELATED..IT AIN'T ALL CRIP & BLOOD BUT EVERYBODY CLAIMS 2 BE SOME KIND OF MOB NOWDAYS.I WOULD LOVE 2 PUT SOME YOUNG HOMIES ON,BUT LOYALTY IS THE KEY 2 FAMILY SUCCESS...IF Y'ALL ARE RAW HIT ME WITH A # & I CAN AT LEAST GUARANTEE THAT I'LL LISTEN...


THE HOMIES CALL ME ALMOST EVERYDAY & BE LIKE IT'S ON YOU TAY..I FEEL EM BUT JUST LIKE A RELATIONSHIP WITH A BREEZY,IF THE LOVE AIN'T PURE AIN'T MUCH YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT..WE KNOW WE GOT TALENT BUT HONESTLY I HAVE LOST A LOT OF LOVE 4 THIS BUSINESS.NOT JUST BECUZ OF MY RUN INS BUT ALL MY PEERS..ONE THING I'M NOT IS GREEDY..GREED IS WHAT DESTROYED THIS GAME..THE BAYSIDES HAD OPPORTUNITIES 2 MAKE SHIT HAPPEN BUT INSTEAD OF LISTENING 2 THE REAL ONES THEY WENT AGAINST THE GRAIN...AT THE TIME ALL THIS DRAMA HAPPENED I PROBABLY HAD THE BEST LOCC ON THE STREETS,MUSICWISE & OTHERWISE,I WAS OUT THERE PUSHIN HARD,NOT 4 ME 4 US..YOU CAN ASK ANYBODY FROM AWOL 2 WHATEVER,I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A TEAM PLAYER & UNFORTUNATELY MAYBE THAT WAS MY DOWNFALL..THE CORPORATE CROOKS REALLY DESTROYED A GOOD THING SO I SAY FAULT THEM..WE ARE ALL STILL BREATHIN' BUT ON THE REAL NIGGAS STARTED FEELING LIKE SLAVES 2 THE GAME & NOW EVERYONE IS BASICALLY JUST TRYING 2 SURVIVE OR FEED THEY FAMILIES.I GOT 4 KIDS...IF IT WAS JUST ME I WOULDN'T COMPLAIN ABOUT NO WHITE PEOPLE NOT GIVING ME MY MONEY,I
WOULD GET OUT ON THE BLOCC LIKE I USED 2 & GET MINES..BUT LIKE I TOLD B-12 & THEM..Y'ALL AIN'T JUST ROBBING US YOU ARE ROBBING THESE INNOCENT BABIES WE BROUGHT INTO THIS WORLD & THEY AIN'T TAKING NO 4 AN ANSWER...MY KIDS GOTTA EAT BEFORE ME...& SINCE THEY COULDN'T RESPECT THAT I WILL TALK ABOUT THEY ASS TIL I DROP DEAD..THEY SAY I SHOULDN'T AIR DIRTY LAUNDRY ON THE NET BUT WHAT'S REAL IS REAL..THEM MF'S AT BAYSIDE TOLD ME I WAS GOING 2 HAVE 2 WORK 4 THE DEVIL...ON MY MAMA...THAT'S WHY I WAS READY 2 SPRAY THE PLACE UP.IT WAS A RACIAL THING & I MIGHT NOT BE A BUSINESS
MAJOR BUT GODDAMMIT I CAN COUNT & MULTIPLY GOOD THAN A MF..& THEY ROBBED A LOT OF MY HOMIES..BUT IT'S CALLED CORPORATE CRIME & UNTIL SOMEBODY WITH MORE POWER THAN US STEPS IN I'M SURE IT WON'T STOP...CASE CLOSED 4 NOW
got dam, yal need to read this like 50 times....... tay breaks everything down right here how it is..... i got a whole new respect for you tay after this thit you just typed.... i agree with just about every word you said.....
 
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WHAT UP KILLA THIS MARVA JEAN.U KNOW I COULDNT AGREE WIT YOU MORE.AND FOR THE CATS THAT CANT FEEL MY NIGG U DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT THE BUSINESS.ITS WAY MORE TO IT THEN MAKIN A ALBUM COVER AND POSTIN IT ON THE NET. WE CAME FROM THE STREETS, AND WE GOT ALL THESE CATS TRIIN TO RIDE LIKE US. WE HELPED START THIS UNDERGROUND SHIT OUT HERE ON THE WEST.WE WOULD BE ON TOUR AND CATS LIKE EPMD AND SHIT WOULD BE TRIIN TO GET GAME FROM US.AND FOR THE NONBELIEVERS IF PAC WAS HERE SHIT WOULD BE DIFFERENT AND THATS JUST A FACT.AND IF YOU DONT THINK THIS SHIT IS POLITICAL OR THAT MTV AND SHIT DONT HAVE NOTHIN TO DO WITH IT THEN U JUST PLAIN STUPID.THATS JUST LIKE IF YOU A BALLER.CANT NOBODY COME TO YO HOOD AND SERVE.THEY DONT WANT TO LET US IN.ITS ALL POLITICS.MY NIGGA TAY GOT HELLA GAME AND HELLA KNOWLEDGE.PLEASE SOAK SOME UP.
MARVALESS (CALI-QUEEN
 

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My take on it..

Artist are mad because they can't put out shit quality albums anymore. We got the power to preview it before you sell us $15 worth of recylced, remixed tracks talking about the same shit you talked about in your last album.

50 Cent is a prime example of Units being pushed with heavy internet bootlegging. 2 million units in 2 weeks. You do the math.
 

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KILLA TAY said:
EVERYBODY THINKS THEY GOT WHAT IT TAKES 2 BE THE ONE..BUT BELIEVE ME IT TAKES MORE THAN JUST LYRICS..I'M A VET & ONE THING I DO KNOW IS THAT IT TAKES PATIENCE & THE RIGHT CONNECTIONS...THE HARDEST THING 2 FIND IN THIS GAME IS TRUST...AT FIRST YOUR HUNGER IS JUST 4 SOME SHINE BUT EVENTUALLY YOU LEARN ABOUT THE POLITICS & GET SMART & THEN YOUR GOAL WILL PROBABLY BE THE MILLIONS..THAT'S WHERE ME & THE HOMIE BO ARE AT..WE DONE KICCED IT & GOT THE FAME PART DOWN BUT NOW WE ON SOME SHOW ME THE MONEY SHIT..I HAD 2 JUST SIT OUT & WATCH 4 A WHILE & SEE WHAT I WAS DOING WRONG..I FOUND OUT I WAS COMING A LITTLE 2 REAL..I GOT SOME HEAT ABOUT 2 DROP...IN MY PRIME I
DON'T THINK NOBODY COULD SEE ME ON THE MIC BUT THE GAME CONSISTS OF WAY MORE THAN RAPPIN'.I'M BARELY GETTING MY LOVE 4 THE GAME BACC..I HAD 2 GO THRU MY SPIRITUAL PHASE WHICH BASICALLY JUST HELPS YOU SEE WHO'S REALLY IN YOUR CORNER & WHO'S NOT..IT'S A LOT OF COMPETITION OUT HERE & INSTEAD OF HELPING EACH OTHER MOST OF US ARE HATING 2 SEE THE NEXT MAN SHINE....I THINK THE CIRCLE I'M AFFILIATED WITH RIGHT NOW HAS WHAT IT TAKES.WE'LL JUST HAVE 2 SEE..WHAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT ME IS I GREW UP HALF OF MY LIFE ON THE EAST COAST SO I'LL NEVER HATE ON 'EM
BUT MY HEART IS WITH THE WEST & THAT'S WHO I RIDE 4.I JUST HOPE WE CAN GET THE SUPPORT LIKE WE USED 2 IN THE 90'S CUZ ALL THIS CUTTHROAT SHIT IS WHAT'S MAKING IT SO HARD..IT USED 2 BE A FUN THANG BUT NOW EVERYBODY WANT 2 BE RIDERS..SERIOUSLY,IF YOU AIN'T NO RIDER 4 REAL STAY ON THAT HIP HOP SHIT CUZ THIS IS NOT A GAME & EVERYTHING YOU SPEAK ON WILL HAVE 2 BE SUPPORTED EVENTUALLY..THIS SHIT GETS DEEP;FEDS BE INVOLVED,& UNFORTUNATELY THE GAME IS VERY GANG RELATED..IT AIN'T ALL CRIP & BLOOD BUT EVERYBODY CLAIMS 2 BE SOME KIND OF MOB NOWDAYS.I WOULD LOVE 2 PUT SOME YOUNG HOMIES ON,BUT LOYALTY IS THE KEY 2 FAMILY SUCCESS...IF Y'ALL ARE RAW HIT ME WITH A # & I CAN AT LEAST GUARANTEE THAT I'LL LISTEN...
WORD Tay
 
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Tony said:


What have you been blowin' lately? Jakakiss will lose in a battle against C-BO! Jadakiss raps like a square and C-BO is gangsta rapper. You obviously don't know music! And who cares about your boys opinion? You don't have to cuss people out over an opinion. And no I am not bias against the East coast.

Redman= Cool
Eric Serman= Cool
Keith Murray= Cool
DMX= Cool
Busta= Cool

because they are all original.

50 cent= Weak (wanna be 2-Pac)
Jay-Z= Super weak (Master P of New York can't stop bitin')
Jadakiss= so so
Freeway= weak (how many times is he going to say down, town, round? with his side burns and no mustache)
Common= soft (vegetarian cat)
LL Cool J= Soft (used to be cool back in the day now he's going too soft)
Clipse= weak (them boys are weak as I don't know what)

So where's all this heat coming from the East?
Tony...please stay outta grown folks business...you always sniffin in some shit you lil punk.I already clowned you out a long ass time ago..did you notleanr your lesson lil boy???

RZA...is filthy...GZA is filthy...Cormega..TIGHT...BIg L(RIP) woulda made some major noise had he not got taken from this world..THe list goes on and on...i can name MORE East Coast rappers that are tight...then West Coast.I like lyrical shit...i like to hear mutahfuckas get CLOWNED on the mic with tight ass metaphors.Thats a challenge.Tellin a story...AINT!Anybody can do that...A real MC...has knowledge...and you can tell when he spits.
 
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WELL,ME PERSONALLY...I HAVEN'T EVER PUT OUT ANYTHING RECYCLED...THAT'S A FEW OTHER CATS I KNOW..(I WON'T SAY NO NAMES) BUT I HAVE HEARD A LOT OF MY VERSES ON PEOPLES SHIT THAT I DIDN'T RECORD WITH THEM WHICH MAKES IT A FAKE ALBUM 2 ME...NIGGAS JUST BE IN IT 4 THE WRONG REASONS..WE GOT NEW MATERIAL & OLD UNRELEASED MATERIAL BUT AIN'T NOBODY TRYING 2 MAKE SOME WHITE FOLKS RICHER THAN THEY ALREADY ARE..BAYSIDE IS A 990 MILLION DOLLAR CORP. & THEY STEADY BRAGGIN IN MAGAZINES HOW MUCH THEY ARE GROSSING BUT THEY DON'T EVEN WANT 2 PAY ME & MY FOLKS 4 THE FEW HUNDRED THOUSANDS THEY OWE US..THEY DIDN'T WRITE A SINGLE LYRIC....THEY DIDN'T EVEN PRESS MY SHIT..THEY ARE JUST DEVILS..I DON'T GIVE A FUCC WHAT NOBODY SAY...I'M NOT SELLIN MY SOUL...I WENT UP THERE IN GOOD SPIRITS TRYING 2 BE CIVIL BUT I'M ONLY HUMAN...PUT YOURSELF IN MY SHOES.IF SOMEBODY CAME & STOLE SOMETHING FROM YOU WHAT WOULD YOU DO...LIKE I SAID REAL IS REAL..B-12 MAY HAVE BEEN USED AS A PAWN BY THE REAL DEVILS BUT IF HE WAS REAL HE WOULD HAVE DID WHAT HE COULD 2 STOP THAT SHIT....& I AIN'T HARD 2 FIND...IT WAS A SOLID PLAN THEY HAD...I RECOGNIZED IT FROM JUMP..WHEN I WENT UP THERE THEY ALWAYS WANTED 2 SEND THE BLACKS OUT 2 TALK 2 ME OR TRY 2 CALM ME DOWN...THAT SHIT WAS WRONG..I DIDN'T DO NO BUSINESS WITH THEM...I AIN'T GONNA DWELL ON IT ON THIS FORUM BUT I FEEL THE PUBLIC SHOULD KNOW THE TRUTH..EVERYBODY ASKS WHY I HAVEN'T BEEN DROPPING ALBUMS & BASICALLY THIS SITUATION IS WHY..
I'M ATTEMPTING 2 GO OVER THEIR HEADS BUT THEY MESSED A LOT OF THINGS UP 4 US & I CAN'T JUST FORGET ABOUT THE PUNK ASS JAIL TIME I HAD 2 SERVE 4 NO REASON...IT JUST MADE ME A SOMEWHAT PREJUDICE PERSON & I WASN'T REALLY LIKE THAT BEFORE.....IT REALLY AFFECTED MY LIFE THOUGH...IT'S CALLED A CATCH 22...
 
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C. Parker said:
Sic Wid It & Young Moe, the word hater & opinon is different. Sic Wid It is a hater. You can have your opinoin, but this cat always bad mouthing the Bay! I'm not trying to bring any type bullshit drama, I'm just telling it how I see. If you got a cyber problem or a personal problem with it, let it be known!!!

U.N.I.T.Y. is what is lacking in these Fillmoe (Bay Area Streets) streets. Young Moe do you know how many Bay Area Cd's I play on my radio station every week that is weak? A lot homie, but I support these muthafuckaz and I tell em why I don't like their shit and they love me for being a straight shootin muthafucka. Some of em will come back with something nice after I told them the real. That's what I'm talking about, tell a cat how it really is so he can come back with some better shit. I bet a lot you cats ain't tell nobody their shit was so so. Man up to that shit if you care about Bay music.
Young Moe, Sic Wid It is probaly your potna that why he digs yo shit. Send me a copy like I said and I will play yo shit too and tell you how I really feel about yo shit. There is no hard feelings so I will be honest about your music and anyone else music.

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fridays at 6pm - 10pm

nah folks you misunderstood me, i respect you to the fullest and K-Poo raised this young filthy soldier...

and Sick Wid it and me aren't cool at all, and he knows that i don't like him a bit...he's never even heard my shit as far as i know, it was Da Mack givin me props...

I love K-Poo and my point to you was that Bart is a good place, there's a few haters but fuck em(and yes i happen to think Sick Wid It is one of them)

all i'm sayin is, keep comin here and givin us knowledge, and don't let the fab fives get in the way

Tay i feel all that ya sayin' 12 is my folks on the personal level and i've never done business with him so i can't speak on that...but do ya thang, you're talented and hopefully all the bullshit won't get in your way

Mr C. keep doin what ya doin' ain't nothin wrong in ya game...and i got much respect for you...keep pumpin them Fillmoetions
 

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why make it a race issue.. seriously though

two wrongs don't make a right.

i feel you on bein owed money bayside... they owe me and shit i worked there for a year and has a working relationship with the same people that cut the checks... but that dont matter to them they still give me the runaround and unanswered calls etc... itz damn sure enough to drive ya crazy... The cause of it is Erik Grotte... he seems to find plenty of loopholes to delay payments... In the year I worked for them (in the Marketing Dept.)... I saw the good , the bad & the ugly... I've seen B-12 help countless people... there were a few people overlooked and not tended to,... but nobody helped the guy. I would work late wit B-12 up until like 8 pm while did various extra shitfor folks such as people's layouts (which he wasnt paid to do) which he he prepared accounting for various in order to get them paid.. even if they werent due.. he'd find a way to get um sumpin... I'd see Erik Grotte shut the shit down and B12 would stay persistent and get the artist or label a lil sumpin even though Erik was tryin to sweep it aside and put it off. The biggest thing people did there was expended huge budgets and then when their album barely recouped and they didnt receive a huge check they were pointin fingers and swearin they were done wrong. they didnt seem to understand the bigger the budget the bigger the debt, and ultimately everything spent on the project was recoupable.

I'm not sayin this shit to take sides, just tryin to shed a lil light on how i feel you on the bayside issue.. bein that I worked there for a year and saw people that were happy on day 1 and then things went sour down the line becuz of mis-understandings (for the most part) but I think the former Marketing Director is a huge part of the blame as she swept issues under the rug and pawned them off on other people. She was definitely a problem and caused a lot of bullshit. I think yall should sit down over lunch and iron things out, but hey what do i know. I'm just me.

good luck in future ventures.
 
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NO,I DON'T CONSIDER ALL WHITES THE DEVIL...I GOT A SON BY A WHITE FEMALE..BUT THAT WAS YEARS BACC..I FEEL LIKE GEORGE BUSH IS THE DEVIL,I FEEL LIKE THE MAJORITY OF THE HEAD HONCHOS AT BAYSIDE WERE CORPORATE DEVILS..THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM OUT HERE..SOME NIGGAS IS DEVILS 2..I GOT A LOT OF LOVE 4 SOME WHITES..THE ONES WHO ARE HONEST & GOT REAL FEELINGS LIKE ME..I JUST CAN'T RESPECT THOSE THAT PURPOSELY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEIR POWER OR WHATEVER..I HAVE NEVER CALLED THE POLICE IN MY LIFE...SOME WHITE PEOPLE WILL DO THAT IN A MINUTE...IT WAS JUST A LEARNING EXPERIENCE BUT IT REALLY FUCCED ME UP AS FAR AS TRUST GOES..I USED 2 BE A HAPPY PERSON BUT THOSE SITUATIONS HAD ME VERY BITTER 4 A LONG TIME,YOU KNOW..I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW HOW 2 HANDLE IT..ALL MY LIL HOMIES WANTED 2 KILL BRANDON..LIKE I SAID BEFORE I SPARED HIS LIFE...& LOST A LOT
DWELLING ON THE SITUATION..SHIT HAPPENS..BUT I KNOW BRANDON 2 & ME & HIM HAD A DEEP DISCUSSION..4 HIM 2 TRY 2 BLAME IT ON A LABEL IS BULLSHIT...HE KNOWS WHAT WENT ON..THE LAWSUIT IS STILL PENDING....MAYBE I'LL GET JUSTICE,MAYBE I WON'T..IT JUST MADE ME MORE CONSCIOUS,& 4 SOMEONE 2 TELL ME I'M GOING 2 HAVE 2 WORK 4 THE DEVIL..THAT WAS A LOW BLOW...I SOLD MORE UNITS THAN ALMOST ANYONE OUT HERE THRU BAYSIDE & IT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN NO RECOUP...WE PRESSED,WE DELIVERED,THEY SOLD & OWED US $8.00 A CD BOTTOM LINE,YOU DO THE MATH..WE DIDN'T NEED NO BUDGET WE SPENT OUR MONEY & THEY USED CORPORATE SHIELDS 2 KEEP US AWAY FROM THERE SO THEY COULD STEAL WHAT WAS MADE..I'VE SEEN THIS HAPPEN 2 T FROM AWOL,& SOUTHWEST JUST FOLDED SO THEY DIDN'T HAVE 2 PAY BO.IT MAKES ME SICC 2 MY STOMACH & IT SEEMS LIKE THEY JUST WANT 2 SEE US KILL SOMEBODY & HAVE 2 SERVE LIFE...IT'S A BIG HEADACHE MAN,I LOST EVERYTHING I HAD INCLUDING MY FAMILY BEHIND THIS SO LIKE I SAID,I WILL TALK ABOUT IT TIL I DROP DEAD..MF'S CAN SAY I'M BITCHIN OR WHATEVER BUT IT'S JUST KNOWLEDGE I'M PUTTING OUT THERE 4 MY PEERS.& IT'S THE TRUTH SO FUCC IT!
 
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Tay,

We met briefly out in Marin. This is Solitary 1, Cozmo's folks.

You a genuine person and artist so you gone be aiight in the long run. You'll get the credit and chips you and your family deserve. Right on for enlightening people and sharing your experiences.

DOBAD says what up and when yall gonna do another song?

Hit me fam....

They slept on MOBB LIVIN!:devious:
 
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That's true...I guess the best thing you can do is take it as a learning experience, I can relate to what you said on a much smaller scale...I used to be a real trusting person but i've been fucked over so many times now that it's real hard to earn my trust, I dont put blind faith in anyone anymore besides my immediate family...I feel what your saying about corporations and george bush, corporations just care about the digits, they dont care about wether or not their causin someones family to starve or causin someone to go homeless, all they care about is that their stock goes up....as for george bush, its funny he's tryin to push this war when he ducked out of war when he was younger...he's ready to send US soldiers to die and ready to have Iraqi civilians/soldiers die but he didn't have the heart to go to the battlefield himself when he was younger.
 
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i dont know, to me if it aint commericial sounding, it aint going to get as much play as a nelly or eminem. gangsta shit is gone now, but not to us underground listen-to-er's. people like to get their groove on and shit, so it gets played in clubs and newbies hear it and want it and buy. you wont hear a Lynch or 40 water at a known dance club, but you'll hear 50 cent or B2K. why? cause it aint gangsta gangsta.

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BEST POST IN YEARS, THIS IS WHAT THIS BOARD IS ABOUT.

anyway, tay fuck all this shit. get ya ass in the studio.
these cats did fuck with you, from what almost every artist has said they fuck with everybody.

man i cant see how you didnt get a dime, and the lawsuit cool.

But focus on now homie, spice 1 new album droppin go get on that shit. WCM doin way to much, you got all these ideas bout reunin albums and takin what the fans wanna hear into consideration. i mean everything looks like it could all turn out fine. and if anything well all know what happens good or bad shape's us, it affects the moment but also affects what we do in the future.


You already let the shit soak in and now its time to use those feelings to build a empire. drop everything, mtv dont wanna play ya shit fuck um, shit will get out, people lovin ya music and will love ya music. and eventually cats that sleepin will wake up.

AND WELCOME TO THE BOARD MARVALESS, ANOTHER CLASSIC WEST COAST ARTIST.
 

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First off, Zigidy your still gay and you will never sell so this doesnt apply to you...

Second, Tay you seem to be dwelling on some shit that you could have made right a long time ago. I dont work at Bayside anymore and there are raesons for that but the thing that you seem to never want to consider is that your label D1A never paid you. Bayside showed you check stubs, Bayside even paid you some dough directly but you never want to say that shit huh? Always the bad side? Im not defending Bayside but I did spend four years there and I helped build it and I never was personally involved in the "robbing" of anyone. Was Bayside slow to pay? Yes. Was Erik Grotte always making my life hard? Yes. Did that hurt my relationship with some people? Yes it did but I kept it moving.

Tay dont play like me and you didnt handle this shit hella times. All the voice mails from you apologizing and telling me to get GOD In my life. I didnt do shit to you. But for you to always make it a race issue and blame Bayside for your shortcomings just makes it seem like you dont have shit else going on. No other label ever paid you or what? What's up with AWOL? How about Greedy Green, or Kim Collette or Metro who put out Thug Religion. Me personally, I think you have had an all around bad experience in music and Bayside and me are your excuses on who to take it out on. There is no lawsuit on Bayside and if there is you should produce the paperwork. I never called no police on you and I didnt sign no restraining order for your info and I am always in the streets or at shows or at studios if you still want to hollar and lay this to rest for good. Its counter productive and I have made alot of people money but the only people dwell on is negative not positive. This post wpouldn't even be interesting if it was JT The Bigga Figga bragging about how much money he made or Celly Cel or one of our other labels. Just tell me though bro, who else of your homies didnt we pay? I WANT TO MAKE THIS CLEAR TO END IT HERE...BAYSIDE DID NOT HAVE A DEAL WITH KILLA TAY, WE HAD IT WITH D1A AND WE PAID THEM CLOSE TO $300K AND THEY DIDNT PAY TAY. CLASSIC CASE OF THE LABEL NOT PAYING AN ARTIST BUT BAYSIDE HAD DEEPER POCKETS SO THE BLAME WAS PLACED ON THEM.

People are right on one thing, you are talented. You are very intelligent. After me and you got through all the bullshit we did have some real conversations and I know you have a good heart and are deep with this shit both musically and spiritually. Tay I tried to email you my # but it aint working so get my # from I-Rocc or PM me yours so we can hollar. I aint got no problem with you dude but I want to hear from you because I thought it was laid to rest.

Now to stop cluttering the board with shit about my life cuz its not really that interesting lets address the bigger picture...

To address the West Coast fell off issue though there are too many factors to pin it on one thing but there is definitely more product in our marketplace that any other independent region in the country and that has alot to do with the over saturation and therefore leads to retailers ordering less product and therefore less product selling through. There is also more hating in the West than helping (like on this site) and you have so many artists that aren't willing to promote with other artists and when artists have shows they dont grab other acts to tour with them.

The feature thing is also destroying the West Coast industry and it seems like artists have no credibility now because they are spread thin on so many albums so it hurts their sales as well. Furthermore, believe it or not, the whole music industry is based in the East Coast and aside from City Hall, Bayside and Wherehouse Music there is no inustry infrastructure to break new and devloping artists so that's why you rarely see a star rise from the West because radio, distribution and major record labels are all in the East. Decisions are made by corporate big wigs in NYC who dont care about Richie Rich who should have gone GOLD on Def Jam but sold 300K. Or E-40 who isnt moving what he used to because they dont uinderstand how to market our music. Just look at how dope WC's new album is and where are his sales at?

Does bootlegging and downloading hurt the industry? Thats too long of a topic for me to address and I have to admit that I dont have all of the information and dont truly understand it all myself but I know for sure that if someone has access to get it free, they will. Shit, I would. Thats why you have to provide consumers with added values now days like enhanced CD's, bonus DVD's, poster offers etc. You have to bring some creativity back to the marketing process in order to just stay afloat especially independently.

The list goes on but at the end of the day it is up to the individual to forge their own destiny and be responsible for their career because it is too easy to say because of your region you aren't hot. There are also alot of good things going on out here too, Cellski, Wax, Done Deal, Killa Valley, F.E., Arsen & 151 have all put out mixtapes that are creating interest and making life a little more exciting in the Bay in particular so its not all bad out there. They arent sitting around waiting for distributors or record labels they are forging their own path and making dough while they do it. So I respect it very much.

Until we own radio stations, touring agencies, video outlets and retailers though it will also be an issue about why we aren't blowing up. Its too easy to blame a distributor and although this has been said to death...Ill say it again. DISTRIBUTORS SUPPLY THE DEMAND THAT YOU CREATE. If there is no demand, there is no supply needed and thus you will not ship or sell any product. Period. City Hall, Bayside, SOH, Southwest, ADI and all of the other distributors have a bad reputation unjustly because its too easy to say "my distributor robbed me" rather than saying "I didnt do my job so my distributor didnt owe me". Its just reality.

I propose that the never ending "race to beat other labels" should end and we need to find some real DJ's to put out real mixtapes with exclusive material and we get the scene going out here. We dont have any DJ Kay Slays, or Who Kidds out here but we have raw as DJ's like DJ Mark 7, Mind Motion, Jazzy Jim, and others that dont have the outlets that a Funkmaster Flex has to make an artist blow. there is too much talent being wasted or not heard at all in the Bay, Sac, San Jose, Central Valley, Portland, Seattle etc. Dont quit your day jobs. Peace...