This is why I asked what was your logic on it while you changed the subject lol. So again, how does buying independent releases in lieu of mainstream major artists, keeping independents from getting major? I know you aren't right, or that I'm not right either, was merely asking what your logic was on that statement. I know I'm not gonna get the end all be all answer, simply asking your opinion on it. How was the guy you responded to keeping indie acts down by supporting them instead of the mainstream artists? How would buying whatever the mainstream is pumping out , get our own indie artist deals, if we're gladly buying up whatever is thrown at us? Again, just asking YOUR OPINION on it.
My opinion: First and foremost (and we're going into another topic here that's going another 20 pages LOL!)
Back in the day when Cd's / music was being sold we all went and bought hard copies. Be it mainstream or be it independent whatever genre of music.
Major labels were signing independents left and right. I myself was dealing with Koch (in 2000 - 2002) and thought it was outrageous (hard to believe). I never got to sign, but Cliff Cultri from Koch (at the time...lost contact & unaware of where he may be now) called me on a regular basis asking if my album was done etc. Advance money was being handed to new acts on the fact that albums sold. The majors could break a new artist and people would buy the album. Three to four album deals were being given at the time. Independent Bay Area distributors were making money as well. Units were being sold on the very day of release.
Now with the internet and all the downloading the majors are not selling units. Not just rap music, that's where a lot of people are failing to see. It's the music business as a whole. All genres. Bay area distributors folded etc.
The "established" artist are not going gold or platinum the first week anymore. Why? Due to downloading and people getting it for free. No money generates and the majors are losing money. Therefore, it trickles down to the new independent coming in with perhaps good music, but due to the majors losing money, they can't afford to put money behind an unknown artist when the "established artist" is not selling units. Be it hard copies, digital etc. The independents are turned away and forced to push for themselves as they have been. Limiting that nation / worldwide exposure.
Why do you think the game has come back to the basics? By choice of the independents? It's due to lack of funds made by the majors. Granted that they still make money to stay in business, but they've (like the artist) have gotten spoiled to where they're used to making X amount of dollars. And that's not happening anymore. Everybody has taken a pay cut.
Labels like Loud Records had to close. Suave House etc. Which are now making a snail pace comeback.
So! When people like bayhead think they're doing a justice to independents by downloading mainstream music, is actually doing more harm than good to the smaller independent companies like myself and independents everywhere.
Remember, shit rolls downhill and everybody get's it in the end.
Then again, like I said, pirates are not going to stop. The higher the technology codes etc. There is always somebody who designs a program to rip it out. This shit has been going on since people were dubbing VHS tapes.
Take it with a grain of salt. It is what it is. Pick it out, find a loop hole that will justify your feelings whatever, whatever... it's just my humble opinion.