you got some real points, but so many guys out here are trying to sell and market their product and that helps to be aligned with something that can be defined. in the end it is all marketing. new bay though would have been better marketing because since it was a more lyrical focus the music would have been better
What happened to the whole "New Bay" movement?
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From what I understand the new bay was Frontline, Balance, Team, and Mr. Fab. That grew into Quinn/Fully Loaded. The first people I heard reject that, were the Federation, people took the term "new bay" out of context and felt toes were being stepped on. So instead of the new bay meaning a new introduction to the mainstream of bay area music. Hella OG niggaz took it wrong and would support that. But look now, hella old niggaz will conform to make their sound "hyphy".
IMO the new bay was something that could have opened doors better than the hyphy movement because every artist wouldn't have been typecast. Like how now people have to say how they are down with the hyphy shit, but have to fight to prove thats not all they are.
Compare that to the south who had people who claimed to be a part of the "New South" back when TI Bone Crusher and Killer Mike came out. Old niggaz didn't hate, they supported or simply let niggaz live, thats something we cant do in the bay.
IMO the new bay was something that could have opened doors better than the hyphy movement because every artist wouldn't have been typecast. Like how now people have to say how they are down with the hyphy shit, but have to fight to prove thats not all they are.
Compare that to the south who had people who claimed to be a part of the "New South" back when TI Bone Crusher and Killer Mike came out. Old niggaz didn't hate, they supported or simply let niggaz live, thats something we cant do in the bay.
Well were the groups wack? If so...why would they want to co-sighn some artist they don't think are doing what's best for the Bay. Did this tour happen? If it didn't because The Frontline wasn't involved then that means who ever was putting it togeather might have been banking it on them. Have you heard of guilty ay association...well there is wack by association aswell. Hyphy has become wack not by the music of 40, Keak or the Federation, but because of all of the bandwagon my bad, I mean supporters my bad, I mean not creative fuckers who just want to jack the next mans formula to gain status. That's like if the the whole bay in the late 80's early 90's said 2Short is winning...lets ALL rap slow and talk some dirty pimp shit. If that would have happend Short would have fell off along time ago because he wouldn't have been special. The Bay growing as a reigion is the key, but individualism is important to displaying the whole.
I actually did speak to one of the frontline dudes about the New Bay and they were saying that they wanted it (the New Bay)to display the New Bay area styles of Hip-Hop, Hyphy, Dance, Cars, Clothing, Film Makers, Directors, Poets ect...They wanted the world to see that the Bay was diverse and rich with all talents- not just one. That is when I decided that I'm fuckin with them. They had the spotlight and insteed of yelling FRONTLINE,FRONTLINE, FRONTLINE on MTV they were yelling out and representing the BAY. Not just the Bay, but the new voices of the Bay...Plus they make good music and they do it their own way. I would rather see PRE-HYPHY FAB, Balance, The Team, The Frontline, Big Rich, Bailey, Ya Boy and Federation pushing the Bay forward than (no disrespect) Keak, Kafani, Yellow Bus Fab and Nump. New Bay had room to grow- Hyphy has peeked and has the Bay searching for answers.
I actually did speak to one of the frontline dudes about the New Bay and they were saying that they wanted it (the New Bay)to display the New Bay area styles of Hip-Hop, Hyphy, Dance, Cars, Clothing, Film Makers, Directors, Poets ect...They wanted the world to see that the Bay was diverse and rich with all talents- not just one. That is when I decided that I'm fuckin with them. They had the spotlight and insteed of yelling FRONTLINE,FRONTLINE, FRONTLINE on MTV they were yelling out and representing the BAY. Not just the Bay, but the new voices of the Bay...Plus they make good music and they do it their own way. I would rather see PRE-HYPHY FAB, Balance, The Team, The Frontline, Big Rich, Bailey, Ya Boy and Federation pushing the Bay forward than (no disrespect) Keak, Kafani, Yellow Bus Fab and Nump. New Bay had room to grow- Hyphy has peeked and has the Bay searching for answers.
Think about what a different look the Bay would have if it was The Frontline, Quinn, Fully Loaded, The Team and Balance as the faces of the Bay. We would look like we had artist that could make hit records and still rap at the same time. Then you have to add to that that Frontline fuck with the OG'z E-A-Ski and Chuck was behind Done Deal...they are smart dudes from what I have read and seen. All the artist are different and special, but they still represent the Bay.
Yeah, I felt everything started getting fucked up when other rappers spoke bad on the new bay without understanding what they were trying to do. They were trying to break the mainstream stereotype of the bay; all we have is slang and beats. Hyphy did that; now all we do is ghostride and dance funny.
Most people in power or dictators hate what they can't controle. They choked it out so that they could keep their place in the Bay and controle the ones to afraid to stand up and be willing to to really take a stance. I respect The Frontline for sticking to their guns and never making generic hyphy music. They do what they do...and they do a good job.
uh... yeah he didnt rep it as hard as frontline, but he kinda was..
'its fabby baby and i'm the prince of the new bay'
"New Bay" ft. Balance, Locksmith, Clyde Carson, Left, Mistah F.A.B., Esinchill w/ E-A-Ski on the hook and beat
damn, that new bay shit was sick. but uhh frontline was on kmel last week or last last week and they mentioned something about this. i forgot though cause i was faded..
'its fabby baby and i'm the prince of the new bay'
"New Bay" ft. Balance, Locksmith, Clyde Carson, Left, Mistah F.A.B., Esinchill w/ E-A-Ski on the hook and beat
damn, that new bay shit was sick. but uhh frontline was on kmel last week or last last week and they mentioned something about this. i forgot though cause i was faded..
The Bay is done commercially.
No matter what, where, when or how the label gets used, after Keak's mumbling, 40's new garbage radio flow, the ridiculous ass way we got represented on my block, the fact that people can not get into the music of any of the major bay artists without being from the Bay or cali....
We will not get another chance like we got for at least ten or 15 years. We just gotta hope good artists from the Bay can get underground and myspace buzz goin and push some units that way.
No matter what, where, when or how the label gets used, after Keak's mumbling, 40's new garbage radio flow, the ridiculous ass way we got represented on my block, the fact that people can not get into the music of any of the major bay artists without being from the Bay or cali....
We will not get another chance like we got for at least ten or 15 years. We just gotta hope good artists from the Bay can get underground and myspace buzz goin and push some units that way.