"We cant blame the white people any longer"
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First off you dont even know me and if you are just judging me by what I am typing you are a moron. I dont want to be on common ground with you.
Secondly you seem to question alot, and questioning things is good, but dont you feel that questions and questions and more questions dont always lead to the goal....an answer. All I was trying to say was that instead of questioning shit everyday of ones life, how about people wake up tomorrow and change what THEY do in their lives. Do shit different. No more im suppressed, or im poor, or i dont have the opportunities others have. Fuck that. Oprah didn't have shit when she started and look at her now.
Also I never said that we shouldnt be responsible for the past, we should. But when I say I live in a state that gives free college if you put out almost minimal effort, and peoples sill dont jump at the opportunity, thats not historys fault. Thats the individuals doing.
Why are you questioning what whites have done when its all over this thread?
I really dont understand what you mean about how people dont have the means to make shit better for themselves. Anyone can get a job and work hard. Anyone. If you work for shit instead of saying give me help me save me. The government doesnt care about the poor. Fuck that I know people that have come from nothing and work hard in their lives to achieve something. And in doing so they have become more educated and better people at the same time. Their not rich by any means, but their not helpless.
Unless you are retarded or over 65 I think you can do something to stay away from the things that will take you down.
• Nevada had the highest teenage pregnancy rate (113 per 1,000), while North Dakota had
the lowest rate (42 per 1,000)
source: • http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/2006/09/12/USTPstats.pdf
People arent taking advantage of this resource "Education" bc they are too busy ruining their lives with shit. More important shit like fucking and drugs.
This data is almost 5 years old but, of 26,429 students who graduated high school in 2000-2001, 14,533 qualified for the millenium scholarship, and only 9,650 used it. So a little more than half qualified for it, and 1/3 used it. Check the graphs.
Im not sure of the required GPA to get the scholarship, but once in college one must hold a 2.75 GPA. This is not the point though because grades are not impossible toi obtain, if one puts out the effort.
http://nevadatreasurer.gov/documents/Millennium/Baseline Study 2003.pdf
I have to get to class though ill check the rest later.
Secondly you seem to question alot, and questioning things is good, but dont you feel that questions and questions and more questions dont always lead to the goal....an answer. All I was trying to say was that instead of questioning shit everyday of ones life, how about people wake up tomorrow and change what THEY do in their lives. Do shit different. No more im suppressed, or im poor, or i dont have the opportunities others have. Fuck that. Oprah didn't have shit when she started and look at her now.
Also I never said that we shouldnt be responsible for the past, we should. But when I say I live in a state that gives free college if you put out almost minimal effort, and peoples sill dont jump at the opportunity, thats not historys fault. Thats the individuals doing.
Why are you questioning what whites have done when its all over this thread?
I really dont understand what you mean about how people dont have the means to make shit better for themselves. Anyone can get a job and work hard. Anyone. If you work for shit instead of saying give me help me save me. The government doesnt care about the poor. Fuck that I know people that have come from nothing and work hard in their lives to achieve something. And in doing so they have become more educated and better people at the same time. Their not rich by any means, but their not helpless.
Unless you are retarded or over 65 I think you can do something to stay away from the things that will take you down.
• Nevada had the highest teenage pregnancy rate (113 per 1,000), while North Dakota had
the lowest rate (42 per 1,000)
source: • http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/2006/09/12/USTPstats.pdf
People arent taking advantage of this resource "Education" bc they are too busy ruining their lives with shit. More important shit like fucking and drugs.
This data is almost 5 years old but, of 26,429 students who graduated high school in 2000-2001, 14,533 qualified for the millenium scholarship, and only 9,650 used it. So a little more than half qualified for it, and 1/3 used it. Check the graphs.
Im not sure of the required GPA to get the scholarship, but once in college one must hold a 2.75 GPA. This is not the point though because grades are not impossible toi obtain, if one puts out the effort.
http://nevadatreasurer.gov/documents/Millennium/Baseline Study 2003.pdf
I have to get to class though ill check the rest later.
ParkBoyz said:
Ignorance is among us..
Bellboy really thinks that out of Millions of African Americans lurking the streets, all of them are eligible for a Negro College Fund, Ha!
Bellboy really thinks that out of Millions of African Americans lurking the streets, all of them are eligible for a Negro College Fund, Ha!
Now is it tougher for a black kid from a single parent home below the poverty line to have good grades than it is for a white kid from a 6-figure family where the Mom is home after school to make milk & cookies and help him with his homework? Duh.
But it's also tougher for a black kid from a single parent home below the poverty line to make the NBA than it is for a white kid from the suburbs with a Dad to coach him and a hoop in the driveway, and plenty of guys overcome the poverty thing to play professional basketball.
...unless you think black people are naturally better at sports??? I'd be curious to learn what people think of that quandry.
No, I'm not letting that discount the message, and like I said earlier in this thread (several times actually) I AGREE with some of the things he was saying. What I was saying is that he should hold himself to these same standards he is trying to hold others to and that is only right. Remember, Cosby constantly said, "we". He constantly said, "we need to to this", and "we need to do that", and I see a problem with him saying "we" need to do it but he himself being guilty of it.
Thisw is a big misconception...The superhuman bodies of sports players wasn't bred throughout the whole slave population, these "super slaves" were mainly bred in S. Carolina. And what most people don't know, is that back in the days of slavery, the common white belief was that blacks were vastly inferior to whites in physical matters. now that we have been dominating sports, I guess the excuse is that we have been bred to kick ass, or have extra leg muscles and so on.
That sounds like a good gesture but do you honestly believe that first of all? Is it really just that simple? Ok, say theoretically that all young African American students meet the requirements. How many millions of full-paid scholarships would that be? Before we go any further that's just not being realistic.
Then are you taking into account the reasons behind why there are proportionately more black children who come from single parent households and live below the poverty line? Wouldn't this ultimately have an impact on the success of the child as a whole, one aspect of it, meeting the qualifications for a good college?
How do you figure that? Don't give me that about the black man being physically superior to the white man, because those unscientific ideas are rooted in Nazism. The association that goes along with that notion is that in effect, the black man will be inherently less intelligent, which isn't true and is unfounded..
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Oh, yea, ok, I don't think that.. Sports are competitive and just seem to be an easy outlet for poor people. During segregation and the first few decades after segregation in sports were abolished, it was dominated by white people..
Then are you taking into account the reasons behind why there are proportionately more black children who come from single parent households and live below the poverty line? Wouldn't this ultimately have an impact on the success of the child as a whole, one aspect of it, meeting the qualifications for a good college?
How do you figure that? Don't give me that about the black man being physically superior to the white man, because those unscientific ideas are rooted in Nazism. The association that goes along with that notion is that in effect, the black man will be inherently less intelligent, which isn't true and is unfounded..
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Oh, yea, ok, I don't think that.. Sports are competitive and just seem to be an easy outlet for poor people. During segregation and the first few decades after segregation in sports were abolished, it was dominated by white people..
First off, I don't NEED to know you, and it is perfectly fine to judge your mentality by what you type. You don't come off as an intellectual or someone capable of saying anything valuable or useful in life. So why am I replying? Probably because I like making you look like an idiot or like watching you do it yourself. Heres what we have so far in this thread:
Several black men and one mexican constantly asking several white members to address the sociological (environmental, cultural and economical) reasons as to why these problems persist, and why the members of this board are not willing OR capable of discussing these things from a conflict, functionalist or post modern perspective. That pretty much sums up the entire thread. Reall issues get tossed out by one side, but the other side (your side) comes with lies, deceit and wacky claims.
You should. If you want to understand these issues and want to learn something you should seek to be on common ground. If not, you should actually LEAVE the thread you created and let more intelligent people (such as myself) discuss these issues.
In some cases my goal is to get an answer. In some cases my goal is present something rhetorical that forces you to think and opens the doors for discussion. In other cases the goal is simply for my amusement or to reiniterate what I have said time and time again.
Child, do you think one can just magically wake up tommorow and everything will change? LMAO! What MOTIVATES a person to change? Self interest? See, you are speaking as if you are intelligent or have some possible answer, but as soon as I ask you to explain anything remotely connected to cognitive science and behavior and how your way of thinking is absurd, you'll squirm like a worm in the sun.
Did you read what I posted about Oprah in this thread? Sure you did.
How should you be responsible for the past? What can you do?
Are you capable of using deductive and inductive reasoning? A yes or no will suffice. If you are able to do one or the other (or both) I want you to think for as long as you can about your statement. I know thinking, especially critical thinking, isn't one of your strengths, and your mind will probably skip to free online porn, to cusswords, to nothing but think about it.
Why are you afraid to say what whites have done?
Because you aren't a critical thinker, probably have limited interaction with people outside of your race, probably never had a basic course in sociology and aren't suited to discuss this type of topic. Of course you don't understand what I mean. If you understood what I meant you would discuss ascribed status and closed forms of stratification and how people may not have the means to make things better for themselves.
Not true. If anyone can get a job their would be no need for affirmative action. If anyone can get a job their wouldn't be a problem with unemployment and jobs being outsourced. If anyone could get a job we wouldn't have a homeless problem, and many women and children would not suffer from poverty. Son, you sound like a FOOL, and I believe this is the first time I ever said someone on this site sounded like a fool.
So who does the government care about?
Son, there is a term for what you are describing do you know what it is? If you don't, it will be hard for you to grasp why you continue to spout off and make no sense.
Could Nevadas legalized sex industry have something to do with why those numbers are high?
Again, WHY are they more concerned with these things, and how do YOU know they are more concerned with these things?
That page isn't opening for me. How do I know the numbers are not high because of rape and incest? Are we to assume that those numbers are all based on consensual sex?
And out of those that didn't use it how many went directly into the workforce, took up a trade/vocational training, joined the millitary, or moved out of the state or country? How many of those that were eligible were black? Again, the link isn't coming up for me, but don't go tossing up links and stats if you aren't prepared to answer questions derived from them.
Several black men and one mexican constantly asking several white members to address the sociological (environmental, cultural and economical) reasons as to why these problems persist, and why the members of this board are not willing OR capable of discussing these things from a conflict, functionalist or post modern perspective. That pretty much sums up the entire thread. Reall issues get tossed out by one side, but the other side (your side) comes with lies, deceit and wacky claims.
You should. If you want to understand these issues and want to learn something you should seek to be on common ground. If not, you should actually LEAVE the thread you created and let more intelligent people (such as myself) discuss these issues.
In some cases my goal is to get an answer. In some cases my goal is present something rhetorical that forces you to think and opens the doors for discussion. In other cases the goal is simply for my amusement or to reiniterate what I have said time and time again.
Child, do you think one can just magically wake up tommorow and everything will change? LMAO! What MOTIVATES a person to change? Self interest? See, you are speaking as if you are intelligent or have some possible answer, but as soon as I ask you to explain anything remotely connected to cognitive science and behavior and how your way of thinking is absurd, you'll squirm like a worm in the sun.
Did you read what I posted about Oprah in this thread? Sure you did.
How should you be responsible for the past? What can you do?
Are you capable of using deductive and inductive reasoning? A yes or no will suffice. If you are able to do one or the other (or both) I want you to think for as long as you can about your statement. I know thinking, especially critical thinking, isn't one of your strengths, and your mind will probably skip to free online porn, to cusswords, to nothing but think about it.
Why are you afraid to say what whites have done?
Because you aren't a critical thinker, probably have limited interaction with people outside of your race, probably never had a basic course in sociology and aren't suited to discuss this type of topic. Of course you don't understand what I mean. If you understood what I meant you would discuss ascribed status and closed forms of stratification and how people may not have the means to make things better for themselves.
Not true. If anyone can get a job their would be no need for affirmative action. If anyone can get a job their wouldn't be a problem with unemployment and jobs being outsourced. If anyone could get a job we wouldn't have a homeless problem, and many women and children would not suffer from poverty. Son, you sound like a FOOL, and I believe this is the first time I ever said someone on this site sounded like a fool.
So who does the government care about?
Son, there is a term for what you are describing do you know what it is? If you don't, it will be hard for you to grasp why you continue to spout off and make no sense.
Could Nevadas legalized sex industry have something to do with why those numbers are high?
Again, WHY are they more concerned with these things, and how do YOU know they are more concerned with these things?
That page isn't opening for me. How do I know the numbers are not high because of rape and incest? Are we to assume that those numbers are all based on consensual sex?
And out of those that didn't use it how many went directly into the workforce, took up a trade/vocational training, joined the millitary, or moved out of the state or country? How many of those that were eligible were black? Again, the link isn't coming up for me, but don't go tossing up links and stats if you aren't prepared to answer questions derived from them.
No, I just think that your uninformed opinion on that is rooted in legend and folk tale. I challenge you to provide one updated, peer reviewed study on this matter.. I'd like you and any biological Anthropologist to explain this to me anatomically.
Wow, I'm amazed.. Anyways, the reason black people dominate sports is the same reason that Asians dominate academics. It isn't because either is genetically superior physically or intellectually, but because of their predominant cultures' competitive attitude towards those aspects of life. A lot of African Americans see sports as an easy way out of poverty and take that extra initiative to relieve themselves from it..
Wow, I'm amazed.. Anyways, the reason black people dominate sports is the same reason that Asians dominate academics. It isn't because either is genetically superior physically or intellectually, but because of their predominant cultures' competitive attitude towards those aspects of life. A lot of African Americans see sports as an easy way out of poverty and take that extra initiative to relieve themselves from it..