vick will not admit to gambling or killing of dogs
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Funny, becuase most folks would agree that ESPN knows jack shit about....well, SHIT...and LAUGH at their "professional opinion". So, that bieng the case, I LAUGH that all your opinons lie in the hands of so called "experts".
Vick is WACK as a QB and he has never done shit and wont ever do shit....and ive said this since his first year IN the NFL.
Sucks to be a Falcons fan.:ermm:
Vick is WACK as a QB and he has never done shit and wont ever do shit....and ive said this since his first year IN the NFL.
Sucks to be a Falcons fan.:ermm:
i agree with you. because out of the folks i mentioned, only 2 work for espn and they are both hall of famers with super bowl rings. your comments sound like the ones that come from guys like ron jaworski, merril hoge, and sean salisbury. you compare those to the list of guys who say the same thing i do and get back to me. thanks for making my point there father.
here it is again in case you missed it. let me know when i mention someone who doesnt have a proven track record in the nfl.
so you know more than these guys? ok thanks i'll get all my nfl info from you from now on!!!
here it is again in case you missed it. let me know when i mention someone who doesnt have a proven track record in the nfl.
so you know more than these guys? ok thanks i'll get all my nfl info from you from now on!!!
i dont want to hurt anyones feelings but if this is how its going to go down vick wont be suspended for more than a year. oooweee. i still have faith in arthur blank to do the right thing and let mike play for the falcons.
without gambling or killing dogs, then this is no worse than jamal lewis' little skirmish for the cocaine dealing. he got 4 games. vick might just play this year. i doubt it but he should be back by mid 2008 at the latest.
this case was weak from the jump. the conspiracy is easy to prove because all they needed was the codefendants to admit to it and implicate vick. all that other shit requires HARD EVIDENCE, something that is obviously lacking. that or the feds got paid off. which one is it?
without gambling or killing dogs, then this is no worse than jamal lewis' little skirmish for the cocaine dealing. he got 4 games. vick might just play this year. i doubt it but he should be back by mid 2008 at the latest.
this case was weak from the jump. the conspiracy is easy to prove because all they needed was the codefendants to admit to it and implicate vick. all that other shit requires HARD EVIDENCE, something that is obviously lacking. that or the feds got paid off. which one is it?
Phil,
I hate to hurt your feeelings, but the feds DO NOT HAVE TO ACCEPT HIS PLEA. If they feel what he is "pleading guilty to" is far less than what they hoped for, they can not accept it, and then they will move forward with the case. In any case noone will know until Monday when the actual filing is done.
This is far from over!
I hate to hurt your feeelings, but the feds DO NOT HAVE TO ACCEPT HIS PLEA. If they feel what he is "pleading guilty to" is far less than what they hoped for, they can not accept it, and then they will move forward with the case. In any case noone will know until Monday when the actual filing is done.
This is far from over!
that is very true, but so is the fact that the majority of the prosecutions case relies on testimony of criminals.
the only thing that they can really use the witness testimony is for the conspiracy charge, but the gambling and killing of animals???? you need more than p funks word. vick is playing again thats a fact. people are going to be getting sick of the overreaction eventually and find a bigger story to lynch someone over. hopefully he plays this year. hopefully the prosecution accepts this plea which i dont doubt. the statements about killing the dogs had nothing to do with conspiracy or sponsoring a dog in a fight so what was it there for? to inflame a grand jury and the public? really what does that have to do with anything. the first guys indictment stated vick was not directly involved in the killing only that he had knowledge, then the second one states he directly involved. funny business.
the only thing that they can really use the witness testimony is for the conspiracy charge, but the gambling and killing of animals???? you need more than p funks word. vick is playing again thats a fact. people are going to be getting sick of the overreaction eventually and find a bigger story to lynch someone over. hopefully he plays this year. hopefully the prosecution accepts this plea which i dont doubt. the statements about killing the dogs had nothing to do with conspiracy or sponsoring a dog in a fight so what was it there for? to inflame a grand jury and the public? really what does that have to do with anything. the first guys indictment stated vick was not directly involved in the killing only that he had knowledge, then the second one states he directly involved. funny business.
hey im just happy that a scenario where vick was pretty much guaranteed at least a year in jail MIGHT be turning into a probation/fine situation. its not out of the question for vick to play this year. i dont think its impossible and i dont buy into the VICK WILL NEVER BE A FALCON again spiel. thats pr to keep the lynch mob off the falcons back while they try to run a football team.
people say blank wont have vick because he'll lose sponsors etc....
nobody is going to sponsor a team with a half empty dome. so either harrington better be this years drew brees or vicks coming back. i gotta stay optimistic.
people say blank wont have vick because he'll lose sponsors etc....
nobody is going to sponsor a team with a half empty dome. so either harrington better be this years drew brees or vicks coming back. i gotta stay optimistic.
Unnn...Noooooo. I get my information by watchin Vick try to play QB. Why do you think the organization has been persuing him MAYBE playing RB??? Hmmm...ALOT of confidence in your QB, if you ask me.
And? Jerry Rice also said that the Raiders would win 8 games this year...what the fuck is your pont?
Dude, I dont give a shit where you get your info from, I make observatons by WATCHING these kind of things....I dont givea damn WHAT these "professional analysts" say. Did you know that someone on the staff of ESPN said that the Mariners would only win 72 games this year????
Exactly...
We are done here.
And? Jerry Rice also said that the Raiders would win 8 games this year...what the fuck is your pont?
Dude, I dont give a shit where you get your info from, I make observatons by WATCHING these kind of things....I dont givea damn WHAT these "professional analysts" say. Did you know that someone on the staff of ESPN said that the Mariners would only win 72 games this year????
Exactly...
We are done here.
Annnnd...the Panthers were supposed to win the SB the past 3 years...and the Eagles before that...
And the Mavs were unstoppable...and Kobe couldn't even take the team to the playoffs...
And Mike Williams would be an immediate star with a huge impact...
And Ohio State would roll on Florida in the BCS game, because Troy Smith was going to outmatch Chris Leak...
I love ESPN...I just don't trust them.
And the Mavs were unstoppable...and Kobe couldn't even take the team to the playoffs...
And Mike Williams would be an immediate star with a huge impact...
And Ohio State would roll on Florida in the BCS game, because Troy Smith was going to outmatch Chris Leak...
I love ESPN...I just don't trust them.
I Fucked Your Mom said:
Unnn...Noooooo. I get my information by watchin Vick try to play QB. Why do you think the organization has been persuing him MAYBE playing RB??? Hmmm...ALOT of confidence in your QB, if you ask me.
And? Jerry Rice also said that the Raiders would win 8 games this year...what the fuck is your pont?
Dude, I dont give a shit where you get your info from, I make observatons by WATCHING these kind of things....I dont givea damn WHAT these "professional analysts" say. Did you know that someone on the staff of ESPN said that the Mariners would only win 72 games this year????
Exactly...
We are done here.
And? Jerry Rice also said that the Raiders would win 8 games this year...what the fuck is your pont?
Dude, I dont give a shit where you get your info from, I make observatons by WATCHING these kind of things....I dont givea damn WHAT these "professional analysts" say. Did you know that someone on the staff of ESPN said that the Mariners would only win 72 games this year????
Exactly...
We are done here.
heres a hint. when the oline pass blocked and the wrs caught the ball tell me what happened.
when vick was sacked 8 and 9 times a game and multiple wide open passes were dropped in 3rd down and touchdown situations let me know what happened.
vick played poorly in the first saints game at n.o. but the whole team did. that night was wild.
the cleveland game he played poorly. no excuses at all
the detroit game, his receivers and line didnt help but he was the major contributor with multiple turnovers.
outside of those 3 games vick played good enough to win or better.
look at his stats vs. baltimore last year then go check peyton mannings against the same defense. a horrible qb doesnt play better than peyton manning vs baltimore.
look at vicks stats in his first season. pretty good for a rookie. then watch what happens when jim moron and gregg knapp come through. yearly decline in performance with a washed up offensive system that never fit vicks skill set in the first place.
do you need me to dig up a quote by rich mckay stating that THE OLINE WAS NEVER BUILT TO PASS BLOCK.
vick was asked to improvise and make up for his bad blocking oline. they thought they would ride a top ranked rushing team to glory. BUT YOU CANT DO THAT WITH A DIMINUTIVE RB IN DUNN. i could keep going but you wouldnt understand because you watch the games too. all of them. and you obviously see something different than me.
when vick was sacked 8 and 9 times a game and multiple wide open passes were dropped in 3rd down and touchdown situations let me know what happened.
vick played poorly in the first saints game at n.o. but the whole team did. that night was wild.
the cleveland game he played poorly. no excuses at all
the detroit game, his receivers and line didnt help but he was the major contributor with multiple turnovers.
outside of those 3 games vick played good enough to win or better.
look at his stats vs. baltimore last year then go check peyton mannings against the same defense. a horrible qb doesnt play better than peyton manning vs baltimore.
look at vicks stats in his first season. pretty good for a rookie. then watch what happens when jim moron and gregg knapp come through. yearly decline in performance with a washed up offensive system that never fit vicks skill set in the first place.
do you need me to dig up a quote by rich mckay stating that THE OLINE WAS NEVER BUILT TO PASS BLOCK.
vick was asked to improvise and make up for his bad blocking oline. they thought they would ride a top ranked rushing team to glory. BUT YOU CANT DO THAT WITH A DIMINUTIVE RB IN DUNN. i could keep going but you wouldnt understand because you watch the games too. all of them. and you obviously see something different than me.