Trump's immigration ban sends shockwaves

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My Opinion If A Nation Like Islam Is Set To Conquer The Globe And Settle The United States It Should Have By Our Law Of The Statue Of Liberty No Rights.

Or We Should Take A Popular Vote Of What We Should In The Hell Do, Because I Know The Popular Vote Does Not Want To Become Muslim And Fight Off Against Jihad So In Fact Goes Against The Statue Of Liberty Law, Their Nation(s) Is Not Like Ours.

Murder And Theft Are Planned Out For Us Those Who Dine With Islam
 
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Don't bother. That guy is literally a cultural marxist, he literally writes for a socialist newspaper and probably indoctrinates students, and has been hoping for the destruction of the united states since the inception of this board. There is no reasonable discussion to be had
Trolling I know, but wait, I want the destruction of the united States? Or is that Bannon?

“I’m a Leninist,” Bannon proudly proclaimed. Shocked, I asked him what he meant.

“Lenin,” he answered, “wanted to destroy the state, and that’s my goal too. I want to bring everything crashing down, and destroy all of today’s establishment.” Bannon was employing Lenin’s strategy for Tea Party populist goals. He included in that group the Republican and Democratic Parties, as well as the traditional conservative press.



Obviously that's not even what a leninist is, but no matter he knows very well what he's saying. It's not true, but it's inflammatory rhetoric. The sentiment still stands.

I actually want this country to improve, to evolve, I don't want it's destruction like Bannon admits. But hey, Donald Trump replaced military chief on National Security Council
with Bannon and that's alright.
 
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Don't bother. That guy is literally a cultural marxist, he literally writes for a socialist newspaper and probably indoctrinates students, and has been hoping for the destruction of the united states since the inception of this board. There is no reasonable discussion to be had


Which newspaper is that?
 
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I work with many Muslims of which none receive US government aid and I have had Muslim friends since grade school, of which none received government aid. The truth is more non Muslim white people receive government aid in the US than any other other ethnicity/race/whatever so enough of that leech talk. Scum is present in walks of people, color or religion have nothing to do with it. And when I say scum I do not in any way mean that some people are not deserving of government aid, because there are many who are.
 
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By the way, how many of you are anti-immigrant yet have no children? The government needs to replace you with someone since you are not capable of doing it. That is all our worth to the government is after all. Either be a law abiding tax paying citizen, sign up for the tax subsidized government handouts, or sit in the tax subsidized prison, you have to equate economically in some form otherwise you make no sense to exist here (according to them).
 
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SENATOR BARACK OBAMA ON THE SECURE FENCE ACT 2006 said:
ABOUT THE SECURE FENCE ACT. THE BILL WILL CERTAINLY DO GOOD. IT WILL AUTHORIZE BADLY NEEDED FUNDING FOR BETTER FENCES AND BETTER SECURITY ALONG OUR BORDERS AND THAT SHOULD HELP STEM SOME OF THE TIDE OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IN THIS COUNTRY. BUT IF WE THINK PUTTING UP A FEW MORE MILES OF FENCE IS BY ANY MEANS THE WHOLE ANSWER TO OUR IMMIGRATION PROBLEMS, THEN I BELIEVE WE'RE SERIOUSLY KIDDING OURSELVES. THIS BILL, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IS AN ELECTION-YEAR POLITICAL DECISION. IT GOES GREAT FOR SOUND BITES AND AD CAMPAIGNS, BUT AS AN ANSWER TO THE PROBLEM OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, IT IS UNFINISHED, AT BEST. YES, WE NEED STRONGER ENFORCEMENT MEASURES. YES, WE NEED MORE RESOURCES FOR CUSTOMS AND BORDER AGENTS AND MORE DETENTION BEDS. DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS IN BOTH THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE AGREE ON THESE POINTS. BUT IMMIGRANTS SNEAKING IN THROUGH UNGUARDED HOLES IN OUR BORDER IS ONLY PART OF THE PROBLEM. THERE IS A HOST OF FORMER BUSH IMMIGRATION OFFICIALS AND MEMBERS OF CONGRESS WHO SAID IN TODAY'S "WASHINGTON POST" WE MUST -- AND I QUOTE -- "ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AS MUCH AS HALF OF THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION PROBLEM IS DRIVEN BY THE HIRING OF PEOPLE WHO ENTER THE UNITED STATES THROUGH OFFICIAL BORDER POINTS BUT USE FRAUDULENT DOCUMENTS OR OVERSTAY VISAS." THIS SERVES AS A REMINDER THAT FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS OUR IMMIGRATION STRATEGY HAS CONSISTED OF THROWING MORE MONEY AT THE BORDER. WE'VE TRIPLED THE SIZE OF THE BORDER PATROL. WE'VE STRENGTHENED FENCES. BUT EVEN AS INVESTMENTS IN BORDER SECURITY GREW, THE SIZE OF THE UNDOCUMENTED POPULATION GREW AS WELL. AND SO WE NEED TO APPROACH THE IMMIGRATION CHALLENGE FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. THIS IS WHY FOR MONTHS DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER TO PASS A COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION BILL OUT OF THIS CONGRESS. BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT IN ADDITION TO GREATER BORDER SECURITY, WE ALSO NEED GREATER SANCTIONS ON EMPLOYERS WHO HIRE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY LEGALLY. WE NEED TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR THOSE EMPLOYERS TO IDENTIFY WHO IS LEGALLY ELIGIBLE TO WORK AND WHO IS NOT. AND WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE PLAN TO DEAL WITH THE 12 MILLION UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS WHO ARE ALREADY HERE, MANY WHOM HAVE WOVEN THEMSELVES INTO THE FABRIC OF OUR COMMUNITIES, MANY OF WHOM HAVE CHILDREN WHO ARE UNITED STATES CITIZENS, MANY OF WHOM EMPLOYERS DEPEND ON. UNTIL WE DO, NO ONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK A VOTER IN THE FACE AND HONESTLY TELL THEM THAT WE'VE SO LD OUR IMMIGRATION PROBLEM -- THAT WE'VE SOLVED OUR IMMIGRATION PROBLEM. A MODEL FOR COMPROMISE ON THIS ISSUE IS IN THE SENATE BILL THAT WAS PASSED OUT OF THIS CHAMBER. IN THE NEW ELECTRONIC EMPLOYMENT VERIFICATION SYSTEMS SECTION OF THAT BILL THAT I HELPED WRITE WITH SENATOR GRASSLEY AND SENATOR KENNEDY, WE AGREED TO POSTPONE THE NEW GUEST WORKER PROGRAM UNTIL TWO YEARS OF FUNDING IS MADE AVAILABLE FOR IMPROVED WORKPLACE ENFORCEMENT. WE COULD EXTEND THAT FRAMEWORK AND WORK TOGETHER TO FIRST ENSURE THAT MONEY IS IN PLACE TO STRENGTHEN ENFORCEMENT AT THE BORDER AND THEN ALLOW THE NEW GUEST WORKER PROGRAM TO KICK IN. WE COULD DO ALL OF THAT IN ONE BILL. BUT WE'RE NOT. AND SO WHILE THIS BILL WILL PROBABLY PASS, IT SHOULD BE SEEN ONLY AS ONE STEP IN THE MUCH GREATER CHALLENGE OF REFORMING OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM. MEETING THAT CHALLENGE WILL REQUIRE PASSING MEASURES TO DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM OVERSTAYING THEIR VISAS IN THE COUNTRY AND TO HELP EMPLOYERS CHECK THE LEGAL STATUS OF THE WORKERS APPLYING FOR JOBS. IT SEEMS IT WAS JUST YESTERDAY THAT WE WERE HAVING CELEBRATORY PRESS CONFERENCES AND THE PRESIDENT AND THE SENATE LEADERSHIP WERE PROMISING TO PASS A BILL THAT WOULD SECURE OUR BORDERS AND TAKE A TOUGH BUT REALISTIC APPROACH TO THE UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS WHO ARE ALREADY HERE. TODAY THAT PROMISE LOOKS EMPTY, AND THAT COOPERATION SEEMS LIKE A THING OF THE PAST. BUT WE OWE IT TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO FINISH THE JOB WE'RE STARTING HERE TODAY. AND WE OWE IT TO ALL THOSE IMMIGRANTS WHO HAVE COME TO THIS COUNTRY WITH NOTHING MORE THAN A WILLINGNESS TO WORK AND A HOPE FOR A BETTER LIFE. LIKE SO MANY OF OUR OWN PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS, THEY'VE SHOWN THE COURAGE TO LEAVE THEIR HOMES AND SEEK OUT A NEW DESTINY OF THEIR OWN MAKING. THE LEAST WE CAN DO IS SHOW THE COURAGE TO HELP THEM MAKE THAT DESTINY A REALITY IN A WAY THAT IS SAFE, LEGAL, AND ACHIEVABLE. SO WHEN WE ACTUALLY START DEBATING THIS BILL, I HOPE THE MAJORITY LEADER WILL PERMIT CONSIDERATION OF A WIDE RANGE OF AMENDMENTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. PRESIDENT. I'D ASK THAT WE ENTER A QUORUM CALL. THE PRESIDING
Obama sobre Secure Fence Act 2006 | User Clip | C-SPAN.org

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