Trump's immigration ban sends shockwaves

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Trump's immigration ban sends shockwaves - CNNPolitics.com

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump's seismic move to ban more than 130 million people from the United States and to deny entry to all refugees reverberated worldwide Saturday, as chaos and confusion rippled through US law enforcement agencies, airports and foreign capitals trying to grasp the US's new policy.
Trump's executive order -- which bans citizens of seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the US for the next 90 days, as well as suspends the admission of all refugees for 120 days -- was immediately decried as a "Muslim ban." It was also criticized as an abandonment from the US's image as a sanctuary for those escaping oppression.

Trump administration officials responded to the wide ranging criticism, saying the US had to take these actions so it can reform its vetting procedures and that it was built out carefully over the past few weeks during the transition.

The President added that his government was "totally prepared" to handle his order, despite reports of widespread confusion regarding some of the details Saturday.
Asked during a photo opportunity in the Oval Office if the order was a "Muslim ban," Trump replied, "It's not a Muslim ban. We were totally prepared. It's working out very nicely. You see it at the airports. You see it all over. It's working out very nicely and we're going to have a very, very strict ban, and we're going to have extreme vetting, which we should have had in this country for many years."

Some of the confusion centered on the status of green card holders. Two sources familiar with the matter told CNN Trump's order will not automatically allow green card holders who traveled to the affected countries back into the United States.

Instead, those travelers will have to apply for a waiver to the executive order that instituted the ban, the sources said.
The countries targeted by Trump's executive order include the Muslim-majority nations of Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Syria, Sudan and Yemen.

Confusion at airports
At John F. Kennedy International Airport, where passengers can often spot the Statue of Liberty on their descent into New York, two Iraqis who had been granted visas to enter the US were detained and prevented from exiting the airport, leading them to file suit against the government.
One of the men, Hameed Khalid Darweesh, worked with the US government for 10 years after the US invaded Iraq. He was released early Saturday afternoon due to provisions in Trump's order that allow the secretaries of state and homeland security to admit individuals into the US on a case-by-case basis, a source with knowledge of the case told CNN.
The other man, Haider Sameer Abdulkaleq Alshawi, had been granted a visa to join his wife, who had worked for a US contractor in Iraq, and son, both of whom already live in the US as refugees. It was not immediately clear how many other cases like Darweesh and Alshawi's were cropping up at other US airports, which appeared to have been blindsided by the new immigration rule that took effect immediately with Trump's signature Friday afternoon.
Their attorneys filed a federal lawsuit Saturday morning challenging Trump's executive order, likely just the first of many challenges in the legal fight many groups plan to wage to overturn Trump's actions.
At the Cairo International Airport, Egyptian officials on Saturday began to turn back US-bound refugees and citizens of the seven countries now barred from entering the US.
"This is a new era we are witnessing," a Cairo airport official said.
Airlines, meanwhile, scrambled to understand the new US policy and worked to warn passengers who might be affected before they boarded their flights.
Qatar Airways posted a travel alert on its website warning nationals of Iraq, Syria, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen that they could not travel to the US unless they are government officials, diplomats or representatives of international organizations. The German airline Lufthansa said it was not yet "in the position to outline the effect" given the new US immigration rule had only just been announced.
Swift condemnation
Iran, one of the countries whose citizens were banned, slammed Trump's immigration order on Saturday as an "insult" and a "gift to extremists" and said it would swiftly reciprocate by banning US citizens from Iran.
"The US decision to restrict travel for Muslims to the US, even if for a temporary period of three months, is an obvious insult to the Islamic world and in particular to the great nation of Iran," Iran's foreign ministry said in a statement Saturday. "Despite the claims of combating terrorism and keeping American people safe, it will be recorded in history as a big gift to extremists and their supporters."
The disarray also fell against a backdrop of swift condemnation from human rights groups and national security experts.
The International Rescue Committee, a humanitarian aid and refugee assistance group, called Trump's decision to suspend refugee admissions "harmful and hasty" and noted that the US refugee program "makes it harder to get to the United States as a refugee than any other route." Refugees must undergo an extensive vetting process -- it typically takes more than two years to be admitted to the US as a refugee.
"In truth, refugees are fleeing terror -- they are not terrorists," David Miliband, the group's president and CEO, said in a statement. "And at a time when there are more refugees than ever, America must remain true to its core values. America must remain a beacon of hope."
The International Organization for Migration and UNHCR, the UN Refugee Agency, expressed concern about the provision in Trump's executive order that would prioritize Christians fleeing persecution and conflict in Muslim-majority countries over Muslims fleeing those same countries.
"We strongly believe that refugees should receive equal treatment for protection and assistance, and opportunities for resettlement, regardless of their religion, nationality or race," UNHCR and IOM said in a joint statement Saturday.
Abed Ayoub, the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee's legal and policy director, said Trump's executive order has sown "complete chaos."
Ayoub said his group has already fielded calls from people around the world impacted by Trump's executive order, including from students and legal US residents who are citizens of the seven countries banned by Trump and are now stuck overseas.
The executive order "is causing a really destructive impact on the Arab and Muslim community and on the Iranian community in the US," Ayoub said.
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Democrats also slammed Trump's executive order, arguing his action establishing a religious test for entry is unconstitutional and un-American.
Just as they did during the campaign, national security experts also warned that Trump's plans to deny refugees entry in the United States and target Muslims or Muslim-majority countries through an immigration ban would be counter-productive or ineffective methods of protecting the US from future terrorist attacks.
"This banning of refugees is kind of a red herring," CNN national security analyst Peter Bergen said on Saturday. "It's not going to make any difference to the terrorism issue, which is overwhelmingly a United States problem. Because 9/11, of course, was carried out by 19 foreign-born Arab terrorists, I think we tend to conceive of this as a problem that comes from outside, when in fact, it's really a problem that is internal to the United States right now."
"It's one of those things that sounds like it makes sense, but it doesn't really when you look at the facts," Bergen added.
House Speaker Paul Ryan on Friday, however, commended Trump for his executive order, noting, "our number one responsibility is to protect the homeland."
"We are a compassionate nation, and I support the refugee resettlement program, but it's time to reevaluate and strengthen the visa vetting process," Ryan said. "President Trump is right to make sure we are doing everything possible to know exactly who is entering our country."
More countries could be added to banned list
The Trump administration's action on Friday also indefinitely suspended admissions for Syrian refugees. The order also called on the secretary of homeland security to conduct a 30-day review to determine whether additional countries should be added to the ban.
A senior White House official told CNN on Friday that the list of seven countries whose citizens are now banned from the US was likely just a starting point.
The official said the administration would be "very aggressive" as it weighs how many more countries to add to the list.
Asked what criteria the administration will consider as it looks to expand the ban, the official said simply the "mandate is to keep America safe."
But if that is the goal, many national security experts questioned why Trump's executive order focused on banning foreign nationals from the US.
Citizens and legal US residents have carried out all deadly radical Islamist terrorist attacks in the US since 9/11 -- not by foreigners visiting the US on a travel visa or by Syrian refugees.

CNN's Pamela Brown, Athena Jones and Eli Watkins contributed to this report.
 
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ha ha aha ha ah ah haaaaaaaaaaaa!
this is only the beggining!

People want call him so evil about this and that.
Realize when he destoryed he TPP... he saved you all from total slavery...

China would have be a dictatorship... yet people are crying about immigration..
and gay rights.. now of that matters.. if the globalist wins!
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Wake up sheep! ha ha ah ah ah a

Trump is our Liberator! You should be thanking him
 
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ha ha aha ha ah ah haaaaaaaaaaaa!
this is only the beggining!

People want call him so evil about this and that.
Realize when he destoryed he TPP... he saved you all from total slavery...

China would have been a dictatorship... yet people are crying about immigration..
and gay rights.. none of that matters.. if the globalist wins!
!

Wake up sheep! ha ha ah ah ah a

Trump is our Liberator! You should be thanking him
 
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ha ha aha ha ah ah haaaaaaaaaaaa!
this is only the beggining!

People want call him so evil about this and that.
Realize when he destoryed he TPP... he saved you all from total slavery...

China would have be a dictatorship... yet people are crying about immigration..
and gay rights.. now of that matters.. if the globalist wins!
!

Wake up sheep! ha ha ah ah ah a

Trump is our Liberator! You should be thanking him
Give it a break retard
 
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Is fascism a problem? Because we literally have a fascist in the White House right now writing Trump's executive orders. Steve Bannon. "It can't happen here" though right? That's how it starts.
steve bannon is fascist? the fuck are you talking about. i know you know your shit i read your posts but cmon man.

is breitbart evil for spinning stories to the right?

everything on television is spun towards the left except fox news who are heavily regulated.

that is facism man cmon
 
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steve bannon is fascist? the fuck are you talking about. i know you know your shit i read your posts but cmon man.

is breitbart evil for spinning stories to the right?

everything on television is spun towards the left except fox news who are heavily regulated.

that is facism man cmon
He absolutely is a fascist. Are you familiar with fascism and fascist ideology? If you were then there wouldn't be any question.

No idea what you're talking about in regards to TV. I don't watch TV news shows, no idea what goes on currently on Fox or CNN or whatever corporate fake news outlet cable TV spits out these days. What I'm talking about is Bannon and his fascist ideology.
 
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He absolutely is a fascist. Are you familiar with fascism and fascist ideology? If you were then there wouldn't be any question.

No idea what you're talking about in regards to TV. I don't watch TV news shows, no idea what goes on currently on Fox or CNN or whatever corporate fake news outlet cable TV spits out these days. What I'm talking about is Bannon and his fascist ideology.
explain how steve bannon is facist.
 
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Both are fake.

Breitbart news on the other hand is praised by White Nationalists, gee I wonder why? Maybe LiterACola is down with that ideology too, idk
this arguement is so fucking old man. if nazis agree with something that makes sense it doesn't make the original argument nazis. get the fuck out of here with this neo nazi bullshit
 
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Is fascism a problem? Because we literally have a fascist in the White House right now writing Trump's executive orders. Steve Bannon. "It can't happen here" though right? That's how it starts.
systemically hyper-bullshit everything has become, this is not for the next 80 terms but someone who can maybe pull the bullshit together, I Don't Want See Skinny Jeans Turn To Man Buns Into Men Wearing Panties For Real Doe.
 
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explain how steve bannon is facist.
For starters he openly states he looks up to Oswald Spengler Julius Evol. Spengler and Evola are euphemisms for German and Italian fascism. Spengler was a major influence on Nazi philosophy, (Blut und Boden (Blood and Soil) was an integral component). Evola’s 1941 racist diatribe, “Synthesis of the Doctrine of Race,” so impressed Mussolini that he invited Evola to an in-person meeting. Afterwards, Mussolini helped Evola publish a journal, Sangue e Spirito (Blood and Spirit).

Another one of Bannons idols? Nazi propagandist Julius Streicher.

Breitbart News is a hate rag that promotes nationalism. Headlines scream “Muslim rape culture” and “mass Muslim immigration. “By bringing in these migrants, we are creating an American refugee crisis,” one article declares. A “swarm” of American Muslims was alleged to have been celebrating the September 11 attacks. Bill Kristol is accused of being a “renegade Jew.” Other headlines reference “trannies” and a “trans hate machine.” Another headline reads: “Birth control makes women unattractive and crazy.”

Headlines, who cares, you're probably thinking. Remember Nazi propagandist Julius Streicher?

Streicher, the publisher of Der Stürmer, was found guilty at the Nuremberg Trials of complicity in war crimes and crimes against humanity for “his 25 years of speaking, writing and preaching hatred of the Jews.” The judgment continued, “In his speeches and articles, week after week, month after month, he infected the German mind with the virus of anti-Semitism, and incited the German people to active persecution.”​

Bannon is quite literally following the same methods as one of his idols. This IS fascism.

White Nationalists, Neo Nazis and the "Alt-Right" absolutely love Breitbart News and Steve Bannon, I wonder why?! Even David Duke organismed in pure joy when Trump appointed Bannon:

Former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke celebrated Bannon’s appointment as Trump’s chief strategist in an interview with radio host Don Advo, a neo-Nazi sympathizer. Reacting to the news of Bannon’s appointment, Advo commented, “We appear to have taken over.” Duke agreed.​

I assume you have a general understanding of history right? What was going on in Germany in the 30s? What was the rhetoric? Jew this and Jew that. Blame the Jew, blame the immigration. Replace Jew with Muslim and it's identical. And while the educated Germans were "fact checking" everything the Nazis were saying and writing articles about how the Nazis were wrong in their claims, the Nazis were out doing shit and making shit happen and the rest is history.

Is it OK to promote that kind of same rhetoric? Apparently you think so because "Islam is a problem" which is your words. Nevermind what got us to this point (Bush's war crimes in Iraq, etc.) the problem is people like you who think this is ok. No it's not ok. Fascism is never ok. Nor is it ok to protect fascists and their "right" to hate. No. Punch a nazi in the face, punch him in the throat, stop allowing liberals to stand up and defend fascists JUST like they did in Germany. Now again, if this is your ideology, which I suspect it may be, then fuck you, my words won't mean shit to you any way. But if it's not, then educate yourself, please.
 
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