THE HYPHY MOVEMENT...IS GOING "DUMB," MAKING THE BLACK RACE LOOK "DUMB" ON T.V.....

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Jan 9, 2006
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JP The 13th said:
lol @ how this turned into an all out race discussion

and how doc truth is shootin the latter part of his username in a way that is making those who dont know shit about black people appear as ignorant as they are
G.O.M. is here wid the quickness
 
Apr 30, 2006
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Doc Truth said:
How is my post racist? Yall are the ones prooving my point. You whites have no Idea what racism is. Because I said "Wigger" yall think i'm a racist? LOL try being black for a day you'd all probably kill yourselves. Racism is stepping outside and having the punk ass police follow you and bust out with, "What gang you in BOY". Racism is not getting a job because you're black. Racism tieing a black man to the back of a truck and dragging him until his head falls off. You dumb fucks have no idea what racism is. Stupid mothafuckas

Shii if that what happens just cuzz your black i must be the lightest skinned BROTHA on the map for shure I was raised in Portland Oregon where the skin tone wasnt a factor on the most part but let me tell ya when I moved to Michigans NORTH SIDE the police had me labled as a gangster still to this da they pull me over for nothing want to serch my trunk say they have reason to believe i have a weapon so they can search me so im in right I deal with the same shit you do probly even worse damn I got into fist fights after being called nigger I understand what its like there aint nobody thats gunna use that tone with me that aint gettin slapped up then I learned there are so many of them that as soon as they seen they got my remote they start pressing buttons trying to get me to switch my channel ya dig.


But its not just a black thing man yes what happened to the African that were kidnapped from there home land was wrong. But not all whites did that. The same people that held captive the blacks stole and killed the Native Americans shii your house that you live in sits on stollen land from the Mexicans Calli was Mexico befor they stole that. Im Italian and you better belive its fucked up to have the police talk about how YOUR ONE OF THOSE SAPRANO FUCKERS or YOUR KIDS ARE GUNNA BE LIKE THE MAFIA thin is its not just a black white issue its a issue for all us people there are going to be retards out there FUCK THEM we do what we do im not going to fall for there trap and I hope you dont do it eather man.


Point is like this as the a WHOLE RAP is like race people are going to judge us on things they think. GUNS DRUGS MURDER thats how it is. If we keep on puttin that shit out there there going to be right in there thinking. But as a FAMILY OF MUSICIANS if we continue to see no color continue to bring focus on what we have going on around us one day we will be free


The Hyphy shii is nice to see that people of all races and creeds can enjoy some real rap music that shii that wants to make you act a fool get the energy out and just be ourselfs GANGSTAS DONT DANC WE PULL UP OUR PANTS AND DO THE WALK AWAY shii fuck that! We been doing this shii for a long ass time the Crip Walk Break Danceing go back to East LA and you find the ZOOT SUITS doing it big we hold our destiny in our own hands embrace the music
 
Apr 20, 2006
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Doc Truth said:
Nobody takes anything you say serious because everybody already knows you're a argile sweater wearing wingding from Benicia playing thug on a message board. You're soft and its obvious because you poke your chest out like you hard. Only bitchmade idiots with poodles as pets act like you on the web. You probably have one black friend and you think that gives you some street cred. LOL you mothafuckin sissy. Does your lawyer jew father know you're pretending to be a gangster on a rap message board bradford?
lol
 
Apr 20, 2006
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SAV'D OUTT said:
well i think its post like this thats a bad look on black people to be honest and blunt. black people expressin therselves by havin fun and partying arent a bad lot the only bad look i se is that it evolves around poppin pills. but i cant seem like a good guy cuz even i pop sometimes. goin dum doesnt nessicarily means bein dumb. if anything white people put more disrespect to therselves than black by being on girls gon wild shownin tits and shit. its all fun and as long as nobody dyin or killin eachother its cool wit me
hey i aint no saint pimp. we all know what sin is but do we all stay away? nope!
 
May 7, 2006
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i think this turned into a very good discussion. its a good thing to hear and understand the other perspectives of races, especially the perspective of the average person, and even more especially in this day n age of american society.
 

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WHITE DEVIL said:
Real problems facing BLack America that are larger than the "Hyphy" movement:

1. Morality / attitudes about sex, commitment, fidelity, and the acceptable number of sex partners. Marriage rates are far lower and divorce rates higher than the national average among even upper-class Black Americans...in other words, it's not just about poverty. Black women and men, especially teens (and the youth generation), need to re-think the context of having children and its associated importance. The "baby mama" mentality and "I got a kid with this girl" does not imply a family or an acceptable life situation.

While this is also supported and exploited by corporate White america, it is not completely groundless, baseless, or nonexistent.

The Black libido is not stronger than every other race. Black people and youth do NOT need to be having more sex than everyone else and Black males do not need to get any and all ass at every chance they get. It is a ridiculous construct that is often supported in the Black community and the entertainment mass media. I believe boredom and percieved lack of opportunity are also at play.

2. Conspicuous consumption and financial literacy...where and how the "Black Dollar" is spent needs an entire re-tooling. The idea that a car, clothes, or money denote someone's worth in society exists outside reality, yet it is wholeheartedly believed, especially by the poor. This is an issue barely even grazed by most "Black leadership" today.

3. Resistance to any/all assimilation into society, the idea that "staying black" means attacking and never bargaining with or ignoring the system in order to further oneself.

4. The belief that the responsibility and the impetus for change lies outside the black community, all the while refusing to discuss Black issues or solutions with non-Black people. So basically "Fix it, but don't talk to me about it." This is seen when a person who is not Black points to a problem in the community and says "This is a problem, here is an idea for the solution" or "Here is an idea for change" and is greeted with one of two responses: A. It is not a problem. You don't know what you're talking about, or B. Who are you to tell me what to do, how to live, etc.

So there is a cognitive dissonance...the vehicle of change cannot also be the enemy, or no workable solution will ever be reached.
Although I dont' completely agree with everything in this, it was very well put.
 

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Doc Truth said:
I've seen your faggot ass post time and time again about bullshit you have no idea about you fuckin mark, you and your fake thuggary holding up your graduation money that daddy got you like you some kind of hustler. Bitch ass white boy. Your chuy gomez cracka lookin ass dont have no idea what you're talking about. Vallejo aint the rest of the US you dumb fuck. By the way.

Races in Vallejo:

* White Non-Hispanic (30.4%)
* Black (23.7%)
* Filipino (20.7%)
* Hispanic (15.9%)
* Other race (7.9%)
* Two or more races (6.6%)
* American Indian (1.8%)
* Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander (1.1%)
* Asian Indian (0.9%)
* Chinese (0.9%)
* Other Asian (0.7%)
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TURFPOLITISHUNZ said:
OK well, the Turf Politishunz have a different view towards the Hyphy Movement. Though we embrace it and love that fact that the BAy is finally getting its shine, it could have its downfalls as well. For example, america has had plently of influence over making the BLACK society look like fools. Going DUMMY on national T.V. is setting us back more then its showing how the BLACK race has grown. Imagine when people from other countries come to america and see that on T.V. A bunch of BLACK people going "DUMB," then when BLACKS, are in the presence of these foreigners they act nervous. Were giving into the stereotype. You wonder why whites, asians etc, lock their doors when we pull up along side there cars, or tuck their purses, our feel uncomfortable in elevators...Hmmm...WERE GOING DUMMY ON T.V. NO WONDER WHY......


On another subject they tell us to call ourselves African Amercians (YEAH RIGHT), My Grandmother Born 1933 gets really upset when B.E.T. is brainwashing our youth to title ourselves as African Amercians. Her birth certificate states "BLACK," in all capital letters. If you were born in Africa then came to American theN yes your "African Amercian," but if you were born in American, pimp...your american.

MM

MAGRUFF MUTTLEY....SIGNED WITH AVATAR RECORDS....

hahaa thiis comin from a guy who has "pimps of hazzard' in his sig...step yo game up. ppl get hyphy as fuck and still go dumb. there are ppl out there who dont give a fuck what foreigners or othe rppl think of them. they are doing there own thing. let those ppl be ignorant and judge its their loss for being judgmental anyway
 
Mar 12, 2006
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TURFPOLITISHUNZ said:
OK SO WHEN THE BLACK PERSON GRADUATES FROM COLLEGE TOP OF THE CLASS AND WALKS INTO A "WHITE BASED COMPANY," FOR A JOB...WHAT IMAGES ARE GOING TO FLASH INTO THE EMPLOYERS HEAD? EVEN THOUGH
THAT BLACK MAN IS QUALIFIED FOR THE JOB, HOWS THAT COMANY IS PERCIEVED IS A BIG DEAL..."WERE NOT HIREING AT THIS TIME..."
man you're on some retarded shit foreal. get over yourself. you made the point your black we get it.
 
Mar 12, 2006
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stunnamayne415 said:
is that why it aint even owned by black fools? niggas like you make us look bad not goin dumb. you stuck on some poor me poor black folks shit.soundin like a revolutionary nigga an shit quit worring about what you look like on tv cuz you aint on tv
THANK YOU....
 
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Bottomline is...
1.Racism will always exist
2.Almost everyone has a little predjudice inside of them which doesnt necesarrily make someone racist.
3.Racism is a very strong word that is thrown around too much
4.The white man is not keeping you down
5.Ignorance is the plague of society

Finally If someone wants to talk about making the black race look dumb...the hyphy movement barely even crosses that line because its all about the music and dancing, but if you really want to see a negative representation of the black race just pick up a copy of the "Hood to hood" or "Go dumb USA", those are some things to not be really proud of...
 
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I think its bullshit to say black people allways have a harder life then white people how can people be so ignorant. Somebody should tell your daddy quit making excuses and go look for a job.

I am from holland and i lived in the US for 6 years. I can honestly say alot of white (trash!?!? as americans would put it) have it just as rough as black people. There are thousands of (black) people that made it out of ''hard'' living and made something for themselves. To me it sounds like you are trying to say im black so i have less chances then you.

(if things/racism/hate/chances got worse these last 5 years i stand corrected, but i highly doubt it)
 
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teddyastuffed said:
i think this turned into a very good discussion. its a good thing to hear and understand the other perspectives of races, especially the perspective of the average person, and even more especially in this day n age of american society.
Well put pimp. I only used the Hyphy Movement because one it could be considered a set back, but two i knew more people would be more into this type of discussion then anything else, using a popular fad. As for those who talk shit, I was once told by a wise man, "sometimes you have to not react in a bad way towards those who are on the level you are at that point in time, you have to let them learn for themselves. 9 times out of 10 they comeback to you and shake your hand." This is not to say anyone is not on my level. The fact of the matter is anything we do as Blacks will be judged badly in the media. Giving the media footage of us that could be viewed negative is a weapon they will use against us. Oh and like I said before, im not saint look at my Pimps Of Hazzard cover.
 
May 5, 2005
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Sinisix said:
I think its bullshit to say black people allways have a harder life then white people how can people be so ignorant. Somebody should tell your daddy quit making excuses and go look for a job.

I am from holland and i lived in the US for 6 years. I can honestly say alot of white (trash!?!? as americans would put it) have it just as rough as black people. There are thousands of (black) people that made it out of ''hard'' living and made something for themselves. To me it sounds like you are trying to say im black so i have less chances then you.

(if things/racism/hate/chances got worse these last 5 years i stand corrected, but i highly doubt it)
1. You're white
2. You're from Amsterdam
3. You're white
4. You have no idea about american history or racism.

Racism is more than Financial which shows how clueless you are.
 
Apr 20, 2006
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WHITE DEVIL said:
Real problems facing BLack America that are larger than the "Hyphy" movement:

1. Morality / attitudes about sex, commitment, fidelity, and the acceptable number of sex partners. Marriage rates are far lower and divorce rates higher than the national average among even upper-class Black Americans...in other words, it's not just about poverty. Black women and men, especially teens (and the youth generation), need to re-think the context of having children and its associated importance. The "baby mama" mentality and "I got a kid with this girl" does not imply a family or an acceptable life situation.

While this is also supported and exploited by corporate White america, it is not completely groundless, baseless, or nonexistent.

The Black libido is not stronger than every other race. Black people and youth do NOT need to be having more sex than everyone else and Black males do not need to get any and all ass at every chance they get. It is a ridiculous construct that is often supported in the Black community and the entertainment mass media. I believe boredom and percieved lack of opportunity are also at play.

2. Conspicuous consumption and financial literacy...where and how the "Black Dollar" is spent needs an entire re-tooling. The idea that a car, clothes, or money denote someone's worth in society exists outside reality, yet it is wholeheartedly believed, especially by the poor. This is an issue barely even grazed by most "Black leadership" today.

3. Resistance to any/all assimilation into society, the idea that "staying black" means attacking and never bargaining with or ignoring the system in order to further oneself.

4. The belief that the responsibility and the impetus for change lies outside the black community, all the while refusing to discuss Black issues or solutions with non-Black people. So basically "Fix it, but don't talk to me about it." This is seen when a person who is not Black points to a problem in the community and says "This is a problem, here is an idea for the solution" or "Here is an idea for change" and is greeted with one of two responses: A. It is not a problem. You don't know what you're talking about, or B. Who are you to tell me what to do, how to live, etc.

So there is a cognitive dissonance...the vehicle of change cannot also be the enemy, or no workable solution will ever be reached.

good feed

dtp
 
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WHITE DEVIL said:
Real problems facing BLack America that are larger than the "Hyphy" movement:

1. Morality / attitudes about sex, commitment, fidelity, and the acceptable number of sex partners. Marriage rates are far lower and divorce rates higher than the national average among even upper-class Black Americans...in other words, it's not just about poverty. Black women and men, especially teens (and the youth generation), need to re-think the context of having children and its associated importance. The "baby mama" mentality and "I got a kid with this girl" does not imply a family or an acceptable life situation.
This is so true imo, i haven't almost never met an african american couple that reached their 30 year wedding anniversary.