Superbowl XLII....I mean XLVI: Giants vs Patriots
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^^^and hernandez. and theres the difference between brady and the rest of the greats. the other great had other hall of famers to throw to and brady dont plain and simple. we couldnt fall on any of the force fumbles we got, and it doesnt help when you shoot yourself in the foot like that. i was SHOCKED we even made it that far with the team we had, we just need a few alterations on defense and a reliable receiver in a big game and we'll be good. great season and he giants were better than us by about 2 minutes, oh well.
Brady is part of a system..........Patriots went 11-5 without Brady.
Peyton Manning is better than Brady. Colts went 2-14 without Manning.....
Could you imagine Manning on the Patriots? They would be like the 90's Bull's.
Hell at this point you could argue that Eli Manning is better than Brady.....
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Peyton Manning is better than Brady. Colts went 2-14 without Manning.....
Could you imagine Manning on the Patriots? They would be like the 90's Bull's.
Hell at this point you could argue that Eli Manning is better than Brady.....
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LOL @ you, Brady is the closet thing we will ever see to Joe Montana. Brady has nothing to be ashamed of, anybody would take his career, the guy just wins, it's all he knows how to do. LOL @ either manning being better then him. Joe Montana is the Michael Jordan of the NFL QB's while Tom Brady is more like Kobe Bryant. To even have the media and fans mentioning you in the same sentence as Joe Montana says a lot. Doesn't mean he's better but there is a discussion to be had. Biggest difference was Joe and Mike never slowed down or had any slip ups when the finals/super bowl came around, if anything that was when they had their best performances. While Kobe and Tom unfortunately had a few slip ups in the Finals/Super bowl wether it was their fault or not it didn't reflect well on their legacy. IF Tom and Kobe don't lose in the big game we would be here talking about kobe sitting at 7-0 in the finals with 7 rings and tom at 5-0 with 5 rings. Then they would be the greatest of all time. Shit happens though and they have to settle for 2nd greatest of all time at their position.
How many Superbowls did Montana play in? 4....how many wins? 4
How many NBA Championships did Jordan play in? 6....how many wins? 6
Quit comparing Brady to Montana and Jordan to Kobe. They don't compare.
Besides it could be completely argued that Shaq had more to do with Kobe's first 3 championships than Kobe did. That can not be argued on Jordan.
Tricks are for kids....
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How many NBA Championships did Jordan play in? 6....how many wins? 6
Quit comparing Brady to Montana and Jordan to Kobe. They don't compare.
Besides it could be completely argued that Shaq had more to do with Kobe's first 3 championships than Kobe did. That can not be argued on Jordan.
Tricks are for kids....
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so Kobe making it to 7 finals, and Brady making it to 5 super bowls means nothing?? Also both are still in position to make another run. Also do yourself a favor and don't talk basketball if you're going to say Shaq had more to do with the title runs then kobe did. Kobe was a kid doing shit no one else his age has ever done. The same kid who was rocking 3 rings before he hit 27 years old which was when jordan got his first. If shaq was so good then how come he got swept with penny by his side when they faced the rockets??? it wasnt until shaq left orlando and teamed up with Kobe that he won a ring. Shaq leaves LA and Kobe in the process rebuilds and takes the Lakers back to 3 straight finals winning two of them with no shaq to be heard of. So stop making up invalid arguments, all im saying is kobe and brady even being mentioned in the same sentence as montana and jordan tells you a lot about how good they're. Are they better?? NO!! but there is definitely a discussion to be had. That is more then you can say for anybody in today's game. Compare any QB in the game today to Montana and i along with everyone who is not a prisoner of the moment will laugh at you. Now compare any guard or any player for that matter in the NBA today to Jordan who's name isn't Kobe and once again I will laugh at you.
Patriots always had a way better defense then the Colts especially the years they actually won in the Super Bowls. Yes Peyton is better then Brady, Peyton is the offensive coordinator while Brady is Belicheks bitch. Winning Superbowls is a team thing. Exactly what JL said Colts are playoff team with Peyton and 2-14 without him. Patriots go 10-6 i think it was without Brady. Yall do the math. PEYTON MANNING IS THE MOST VALUABLE PLAYER TO A TEAM, DO YALL UNDERSTAND THAT??????
wow stop talking, comparing those records is the weakest argument ever!! of course the colts are going to go 2-14 they had painter and kerry collins as a back up! while the patriots had cassel a guy who is a franchise starting QB now for a team that won the division and almost won it again this season. All those records indicate is that the patriots GM had a better back up plan compared to the colts. there is a reason why the colts gm and his staff are no longer there. Also the colts purposely tanked like they have in the past, it's no coincidence the colts drafted Elway, Manning, and are now set to draft Luck. Peyton manning is the greatest regular season QB EVER! and that is where the conversation ends because he's for sure not top 3 QB's of all time maybe not even 5. Don't let your hate for Brady and the patriots cloud your judgement.
^^^ Ill bring up the same argument i have in the past. Imagine if the Colts had the Steelers defense, think many Superbowl rings Peyton would have. And better backup plan my ass. The Patriots always had an all around better team. You do realize winning Superbowls is a team thing right???? They had no clue what Matt Cassell could do, but he managed to get 10 wins never having started in the NFL, i dont think even in college