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11,000 people is TIMES 10 IN "MANY" OTHER COUNTRIES....I am well educated so I speak what I know. I do respect others choices, but is MY oppinion that it is disrespect when you burn the flag that has given you your freedom. We can go back to day 1 when yes, there were native americans here and yea...there was freedom then Columbus came, then slavery etc.....but the fact is we are where we are now and this is what we have to deal with. Yes, there is propaganda but most of you fail to realize that although this country has it's MANY faults it has MANY MORE benefits. I think it's fine to not support the war but when the war is in the process don't sit there and not support our troops dying for a cause.

Be carefull you might realize your actually using your FREEDOM of SPEACH RIGHT NOW. Ask Iraq and Cuba if they can do that.

BE MAD AT THIS COUNTRY...IT'S SO HORRIBLE TO LIVE HERE AINT IT?
 
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THE D.U.G.O.U.T said:
11,000 people is TIMES 10 IN "MANY" OTHER COUNTRIES....I am well educated so I speak what I know.
lol so 111,000 iraqis died from gun violence last year in their own neighborhoods? u wanna put some money on that? but anyways the point bein made was "3000 people died in this country and you dont care!!!!" stay on point. and you dont have to say your well educated, i aint lookin for crudentials, and i doubt you care for myn.

THE D.U.G.O.U.T said:
I do respect others choices, but is MY oppinion that it is disrespect when you burn the flag that has given you your freedom.
the same flag that allows for 12% of the population (blacks) to make up 50% of the population in prison. the same country that has killed thousands of innocent civilians itself? the same country that is 5% of the worlds population yet uses 25% of the worlds resources (like people want that to0 change, would u pay $500 for a pair of nikes? i doubt it, so lets keep payin phillipinos pocket change everyday). it aint all gravy by anymeans. the flag means freedom in many senses but it also means plenty of other things. would i burn a flag? NO. is it my problem if someone feels they want to? not really

THE D.U.G.O.U.T said:
We can go back to day 1 when yes, there were native americans here and yea...there was freedom then Columbus came, then slavery etc.....but the fact is we are where we are now and this is what we have to deal with.
on the outside it looks clean but we still got many problems. i refuse to be content when there is still more then enough shit to be cleaned up


THE D.U.G.O.U.T said:
Yes, there is propaganda but most of you fail to realize that although this country has it's MANY faults it has MANY MORE benefits. I think it's fine to not support the war but when the war is in the process don't sit there and not support our troops dying for a cause.
the outlaws called the song "fuck bush" not fuck the troops. no one has a problem with the troops. me personally, i feel bad for the troops

THE D.U.G.O.U.T said:
Be carefull you might realize your actually using your FREEDOM of SPEACH RIGHT NOW. Ask Iraq and Cuba if they can do that.
dont go back to that freedom rhetoric too often now. who ever said iraqis were livin lavish anyways and could say whatever they want to say? you miss point completely

THE D.U.G.O.U.T said:
BE MAD AT THIS COUNTRY...IT'S SO HORRIBLE TO LIVE HERE AINT IT?
i never said that, but i am not shocked that you had to resort to some simplified reasoning for why i believe in what i believe in. save that for when u call the rush limbaugh show.
 
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outlawz is brainwashed into some conspiracy shit. readin too many internet sites.
and u watchin too much tv, whats the difference. a fool is a fool dont make you better just because you gettin your nonsense from a different source
 

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wutfuxmeup about this war the most is our main mission... i mean wut the fuck is it?? at first we were going to war over WMD's (that were never found prior to the war)... and now folks are claimin that our troops are in there to liberate the people of iraq? wut the fuck? am i the only one who never knew about this shit when the war began or something?? someone let me know
 
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HERE ARE 10 THINGS TO CONSIDER WHEN VOICING AN OPINION
ON THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE:

1) BETWEEN PRESIDENT BUSH AND SADDAM HUSSEIN
...HUSSEIN IS THE BAD GUY.

2) IF YOU HAVE FAITH IN THE UNITED NATIONS TO DO THE
RIGHT THING KEEP THIS IN MIND, THEY HAVE LIBYA HEADING
THE COMMITTEE ON HUMAN RIGHTS ANDIRAQ HEADING THE
GLOBAL DISARMAMENT COMMITTEE. DO YOUR OWN MATH HERE.

3) IF YOUR ONLY ANTI-WAR SLOGAN IS "NO WAR FOR OIL,"
SUE YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR ALLOWING YOU TO SLIP
THROUGH THE CRACKS AND ROBBING YOU OF THE EDUCATION
YOU DESERVE.

4) SADDAM AND BIN LADEN WILL NOT SEEK UNITED NATIONS
APPROVAL BEFORE THEY TRY TO KILL US.

5) DESPITE COMMON BELIEF, MARTIN SHEEN IS NOT THE
PRESIDENT. HE PLAYS ONE ON T.V.

6) EVEN IF YOU ARE ANTI-WAR, YOU ARE STILL "INFIDEL!"
AND BIN LADEN WANTS YOU DEAD, TOO.

7) IF YOU BELIEVE IN A "VAST RIGHT-WING CONSPIRACY"
BUT NOT IN THE DANGER THAT HUSSEIN POSES, QUIT HANGING
OUT WITH THE DELL COMPUTER DUDE.

8) GOING TO WAR WITHOUT THE FRENCH IS LIKE GOING BEAR
HUNTING WITHOUT A PIANO.

9) WE ARE NOT TRYING TO LIBERATE THEM.

10) WHETHER YOU ARE FOR MILITARY ACTION OR AGAINST IT,
OUR YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN OVERSEAS ARE FIGHTING FOR US
TO DEFEND OUR RIGHT TO SPEAK OUT. WE ALL NEED TO
SUPPORT THEM WITHOUT RESERVATION.
 
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We got another REVOLUTIONARY on our hands. Don't hide the fact that you sit here and try and find controversy in every decision this country makes. I do question things that go on quite a bit here but you seem to be frustrated ALOT and make it your motivation to be upset about this country we live in. If you honestly think it's that bad then why are you here brother?

I noticed you couldn't address my comment about the IRAQ & CUBA situation directly...you quoted it but went around it. The simple fact is those people cannot speak the way you speak right now without being jailed or even killed. Do you realize how many folks try to defect to this country brotha? What's the ratio of those who defect from their countries to get here to the one's who defect from this country to leave here? Get my drift?

I question cats like you daily. Cats who wear Che Guevara Shirts, Cats who hang our flags upside down, Cats who claim revolution but celebrate Cinco De Mayo, Black History Month, Dia De San Juan and so many more holidays in this SO CALLED HORRIBLE country. Those are the same people who celebrate the 4th of July here and go watch the Fireworks at the beach and scream REVOLUTION! Not realizing what the 4th of July stands for.

Please debate with me, I can break this down like ABC's all day brotha...to me it's nothin but good food for thought. Stay mad, Die mad...cause you are going to do just that by feeling the way you do about this bad country we live in. Do you have family in the military brotha? If you do get input from them, cause more often or not they will tell you that yes, they are most likely against WAR but that is what they signed up for...to defend the country that provides them the shit no other country would.

Stay Positive....break that down.
 
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I aint buyin what Bush is selling, if we cared about WMD then he'd be all up in N Korea's ass but we go after Saddam as apart of the "Axis Of Evil" in a speech the president made.

Saddam may be evil but he doesnt have even have the tools to even put up a decent fight in war.

Why is it that when someone speaks up against the govt and this country the "love it or leave it" thing come up?
 
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I guess that comment comes from me at times is because those who speak up seem to be more IGNORANT than EDUCATED when they speak up about it. I do think Walk has some valid points as do others...I feel the way I do though you know? It's just like man if it's so bad here why are you still here then you feel me?

I am all for this debate shit...I think it's great...it shows muthafuckaz give a damn about what's going on today. No matter what side you choose you feel me?
 

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Its funny how pathetically hypocritical some of you dumb asses are. Most of ya'll listen to albums all day that have rappers talking about "going to war" and killing each other over dumb shit. Yet none of you seem to have a problem with that. I don't see any posts here about young black men killing each other every day. I guess none of you care about that. But when this country goes to war with the intentions of killing an evil dictator who tortures and massacres his own people you all of a sudden have a problem with it. Women, children it doesn't matter saddam kills them all. Regardless of Bush's true intentions for taking out saddam, it's getting done. Don't mistake this post as some pro-usa shit, because it's far from that. My problem is how hypocritical you people are, people are being killed everyday in this country. Why don't you care about that? Why do you care more about the Iraqi people then you do about your own? It's obvious a lot of you are just against the government for the sake of being against them. It doesn't matter if you look like an ass; you just want to be against whatever they do.
 
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i remmber someone sayin on a gangsta rap message board why aren't people suportin the war , even through its bart its apart of the siccness and the siccness isnt just sac this came to be what it is from the 91siccness , i don't see c-bo praising the california state government so the idea of suportin the government becuz of one genre of music is fuckin retarded.

YOU CAN KISS MY ASS WITH BUSH CARIN' ABOUT YOU , ME OR IRAQI PEOPLE, 80 BILLION WAS INVESTED IN THIS WAR YOU THINK THAT ANY CORPERATIONS WITH TIES TO BUSH OR CHENY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO GAIN HERE. 80 BILLION (80 BILLION COULD BE USED FOR THE POOR , BUSH IS A MAN WHO IS TRYING TO FIX THE WORLD BUT CAN'T FIX WHATS AT HOME)FOR A WAR AGAINST A MAN WHO DOES SHIT TO HIS OWN PEOPLE , WELL WHO GIVES A SHIT AMERIKKKA AINT RIGHTEOUS THEY DON'T CARE OIL IS INVOVLED TOO AS WELL , WHY THE HELL DO YOU THINK WE GOT INVOVLED DURING THE EARLIE 90s WHEN SADDAM INVADED KWUIT. WE DON' FIGHT WARS FOR GLORY NO MORE.

"OLD MEN CAUSE WARS,WHILE THE YOUNG FIGHT AND DIE"


PEOPLE DIED TO MAKE THIS COUNTRY,NATIVE PEOPLE DID , BLACKS DID WORKED FOR A LAZY WHITE MAN, EVERYBODY MUST PAY FOR ITS SINS EVEN A COUNTRY ,THE FOUNDATION IS WHAT THIS COUNTRY IS MADE OF LIES,MURDER, AND GREED.IT PICKED UP RIGHT WERE ENGLAND LEFT OFF.
 
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My problem with our war is quite simple: the people of America are being led into thinking that we are there strickly to liberate them. The bottom line is, Iraq is strategicly valuable, and has valuable natural resources. The United States will benefit greatly from having a new regime in control of Iraq.

And if it wasn't for oil, for army bases, for control, what is it for? Half the countries in Africa are run by dictatorships. So are countries in Asia and in Latin America. You can't say its because they arent a threat to the United States! At any point a dictator style country could harbor terrorists, whether its Iraq, Iran, N. Korea, Somolia, Syria, etc. Not only that, but there are countries like North Korea who OPENLY ADMIT to possessing and creating nuclear arms that are in violation of UN Resolutions.

Now of course, NO ONE on either side is gonna debate that its a bad move to remove a dictator from power. Sadaam Huessein is a piece of shit and deserves whatever the hell our military is giving to him. But the question is, are really really making a move to change things to better all of us. If Sadaam Huessein has chemical weapons and nuclear weapons, that isn't the problem. The problem is Sadaam Huessin using chemical weapons, something he hasn't done the whole war (to our knowledge) and something that he never did before.

If you want to go back to the use of chemical weapons during the Iran-Iraq war, you should be reminded that the United States suppoted Iraq with superior weaponry AND with chemical agents. You should also be reminded that the United States has supported numerous other dictators in numerous other places. After World War II, the United States and Russia both made grave mistakes by granting dictators power and weaponry in exchange for a pledge of alligiance. Im China, we supported Chiang-Chi-Shek (sp?). In Cuba, we supported Fulgencio Bautista. In Vietnam, we supported the French and fought against Vietnam. In all of these struggles, we fought AGAINST the majority opinion of the people of the given country. The revolution in Cuba didn't happen just because Castro became a dictator who didnt hold free elections, it happened because the general population WANTED a new leader who would change Cuba from a US colony home to drugs, prostition and American corporate business into a respect safe place for his own people. In no way do I condone Castros actions, but its only fair to note that we tried to control the fate of another nation for OUR INTERESTS. Is that fair?

Basically I find a lot of Americans are ignorent to our Cold War policies and actual ACTIONS. We fucked a lot of countries over in the name of "liberty." There is a reason why 9/11 happened. Because people in the Middle East want Western influence out of their countries. Because we poke our nose in all of their business, we supported a Shah in Iran who raped his people of oil in exchange for his own personal profit, and we support Israel. A college professor writing about American policy in the middle east once wrote "the sons of torute victims make good terrorists."

So, instead of staying out of middle eastern conflict, we have chosen to fight it head on. We decide to invade two countries and the "War on Terror" isnt even over yet. If people think this war is gonna make Islamic terrorists happy they are horribly wrong.

So basically, everything I just said, along with a downward spiriling economy explains reasons why we should avoid the war. Speaking of our economy, how many presidents do you know that create a deficit and THEN cut taxes and still fight a war? Basically, these are the reasons I oppose the war.
 
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i think the difference between the innocent people getting fucked up by their own dictator in iraq and the people shooting each other over some gang violence in USA is this: people in usa have a choice of picking up a gun, or picking up a degree from highschool and actually doing something with their life where you dont have to worry about randomly catching a bullet in your ass, and if they choose to pickup a gun and some yayo only to get their ass deceased or thrown in jail and then point fingers at the government and other people instead of taking responsibility for their own god damn actions is a damn shame. <---- these people I dont give a fuck about unless i can sense a hand reaching out to get out that life style, some type of potential.
but when i see people cheering on the damn tv when they see some troops rolling by and some iraqi dude using his sandal to whoop it to a woven garment with a picture of saddam on it, i cant help but give a damn about these people because they deserve to live a life without worrying about their lives being taken just by speaking out on their government. I could go on and write a whole essay about this shit, but this is what i broke it down to.
 

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lunitunez said:
where you dont have to worry about randomly catching a bullet in your ass
Have you watched the news, ever? I can't count how many times some unsuspecting child was killed by a stray bullet. Did they have a choice? Did the husband and wife who were killed for their car have a choice? Did the family who was killed when they came home to their house being robbed have a choice? Did the 19 year old kid who was working at a 7-11 to pay his way through college but died in an armed robbery have a choice?
 
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Tim said:


Have you watched the news, ever? I can't count how many times some unsuspecting child was killed by a stray bullet. Did they have a choice? Did the husband and wife who were killed for their car have a choice? Did the family who was killed when they came home to their house being robbed have a choice? Did the 19 year old kid who was working at a 7-11 to pay his way through college but died in an armed robbery have a choice?
no doubt.
 
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Out On Bail SFC said:
the fuckin iraqi's are happy about this shit u fuckin idiots. u didn't see them niggas clappin when the u.s.
dont swollow so much propaganda. a lot of those pictures of the statues getting tore down are pictures from northen Iraq where Kurds live.

Fair enough, i agree Iraq's probably dont sympathise with Saddam very much, but however much they might hate Saddam, they hate Bush probably 5 times harder.

Fuck Bush, he deserves a place at the war criminal court in the Hague. Blair too.
 
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MaddDogg said:
My problem with our war is quite simple: the people of America are being led into thinking that we are there strickly to liberate them. The bottom line is, Iraq is strategicly valuable, and has valuable natural resources. The United States will benefit greatly from having a new regime in control of Iraq.

And if it wasn't for oil, for army bases, for control, what is it for? Half the countries in Africa are run by dictatorships. So are countries in Asia and in Latin America. You can't say its because they arent a threat to the United States! At any point a dictator style country could harbor terrorists, whether its Iraq, Iran, N. Korea, Somolia, Syria, etc. Not only that, but there are countries like North Korea who OPENLY ADMIT to possessing and creating nuclear arms that are in violation of UN Resolutions.

Now of course, NO ONE on either side is gonna debate that its a bad move to remove a dictator from power. Sadaam Huessein is a piece of shit and deserves whatever the hell our military is giving to him. But the question is, are really really making a move to change things to better all of us. If Sadaam Huessein has chemical weapons and nuclear weapons, that isn't the problem. The problem is Sadaam Huessin using chemical weapons, something he hasn't done the whole war (to our knowledge) and something that he never did before.

If you want to go back to the use of chemical weapons during the Iran-Iraq war, you should be reminded that the United States suppoted Iraq with superior weaponry AND with chemical agents. You should also be reminded that the United States has supported numerous other dictators in numerous other places. After World War II, the United States and Russia both made grave mistakes by granting dictators power and weaponry in exchange for a pledge of alligiance. Im China, we supported Chiang-Chi-Shek (sp?). In Cuba, we supported Fulgencio Bautista. In Vietnam, we supported the French and fought against Vietnam. In all of these struggles, we fought AGAINST the majority opinion of the people of the given country. The revolution in Cuba didn't happen just because Castro became a dictator who didnt hold free elections, it happened because the general population WANTED a new leader who would change Cuba from a US colony home to drugs, prostition and American corporate business into a respect safe place for his own people. In no way do I condone Castros actions, but its only fair to note that we tried to control the fate of another nation for OUR INTERESTS. Is that fair?

Basically I find a lot of Americans are ignorent to our Cold War policies and actual ACTIONS. We fucked a lot of countries over in the name of "liberty." There is a reason why 9/11 happened. Because people in the Middle East want Western influence out of their countries. Because we poke our nose in all of their business, we supported a Shah in Iran who raped his people of oil in exchange for his own personal profit, and we support Israel. A college professor writing about American policy in the middle east once wrote "the sons of torute victims make good terrorists."

So, instead of staying out of middle eastern conflict, we have chosen to fight it head on. We decide to invade two countries and the "War on Terror" isnt even over yet. If people think this war is gonna make Islamic terrorists happy they are horribly wrong.

So basically, everything I just said, along with a downward spiriling economy explains reasons why we should avoid the war. Speaking of our economy, how many presidents do you know that create a deficit and THEN cut taxes and still fight a war? Basically, these are the reasons I oppose the war.
I take my hat off to you, no doubt.

just one point that i wanted to elaborate on:

US Military has has been using in Iraq & in Kosovo bombs that contained depleted Uranium, a radioactive material which causes birth defects anmd cancer.

Now isn't this chemical weapons?
 
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I'd be a great dictator...... cuz everyone of you stupid fucks that posts on here about conspiracies would be drug out in the street and shot. You're a bunch of nonsense talking dipshits. I'm for freedom, but ya'll don't deserve life.
 

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THE D.U.G.O.U.T said:
LIKE IT OR LEAVE IT. NUFF SAID.

".....there is no utopia, and concerned citizens will point out problems and strive for improvements wherever they live. Running away from these problems will not solve them. Additionally, if they were to leave the country, the problems inherent to the country (especially militarism and corporate exploitation) would often affect them more if they lived abroad."

-Kennie Anderson
 
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FILA|AUS and JazzFan..yall the only ones that REAL TALKS...

i respects yall...

like you said i took my HAT off for ya..

brothers donno that US attacks to IRaq for Oil...they cant take it...

you know what, Americas economi went 70% down.yall knew that

and fo so BUSH needed money than he declares a WAR against Arabian countries like IRAQ cuz of OIL and now they got IRAQ so they happy thou cuz they make $$$$ outta that OIL...and now its gonna be the turn for another Land like IRAN or SYRIA...

money rules everything...and all the shit you see on TV and newspapers is all bullshit..there aint no one that knows the REAL TRUTH bout whats happenin !

pz yall 1 luv
 
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