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How many games will the raiders win next year.


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Apr 25, 2002
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Pooka said:
shut yo azz up an quit tryna change da subjec....
You haven't said anything worthy of me continuing the debate.

Pooka said:
i type da way a wanna type...y?....BCUZ I FUCKIN FEEL LIKE IT....i dont ask u y do choose 2 type n red do i?
Typing in red and not being able to type are two completely different things. Now, if you asked me why I choose to spell most of my words correctly and use proper English, I will tell you BECAUSE I'M A GROWN ASS MAN. You wouldn't know anything about that though.
 

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To me it seems like "some" Raider fans have a defeated attitude. Last year was last year. Just because we went 2-14 doesn't mean we'll go 2-14 again. We could end up going 14-2... you never know. There has been bad teams in the NFL that have turned their franchise around in one season. It's possible...

You as a fan have to set your expectations high for your team. If there is a Raider player in the locker room that believes they're only going to win 6 or 7 games he needs to be cut on the spot. The only goal should be the SuperBowl and that's it. Why settle for 6 or 7 wins and be happy? You think the New England Patriots players and their fans expect their team to win 8 or 9 games? No. The expectations are set very high in New England... that's why they're always in the playoffs/Superbowls. The Raiders and their fans have to believe that we're better than just 7 games. We need to set our expectations high like the Patriots and Colts so we can compete for SuperBowls too.

As a fan If I am going to see a Raider game at the coliseum you better believe I am going to see the Raiders win!

@Redrum: The Raiders are not in a rebuilding stage. They re-tool. Sure Al Davis has made his mistakes just like other GM's have. If they were in a rebuilding stage then yeah you can expect the team to win less than half their games because they're rebuilding. When you re-tool like the Raiders do, you expect them to be in the mix of things right away.
 
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Tony said:
To me it seems like "some" Raider fans have a defeated attitude. Last year was last year. Just because we went 2-14 doesn't mean we'll go 2-14 again. We could end up going 14-2... you never know. There has been bad teams in the NFL that have turned their franchise around in one season. It's possible...

You as a fan have to set your expectations high for your team. If there is a Raider player in the locker room that believes they're only going to win 6 or 7 games he needs to be cut on the spot. The only goal should be the SuperBowl and that's it. Why settle for 6 or 7 wins and be happy? You think the New England Patriots players and their fans expect their team to win 8 or 9 games? No. The expectations are set very high in New England... that's why they're always in the playoffs/Superbowls. The Raiders and their fans have to believe that we're better than just 7 games. We need to set our expectations high like the Patriots and Colts so we can compete for SuperBowls too.

As a fan If I am going to see a Raider game at the coliseum you better believe I am going to see the Raiders win!

@Redrum: The Raiders are not in a rebuilding stage. They re-tool. Sure Al Davis has made his mistakes just like other GM's have. If they were in a rebuilding stage then yeah you can expect the team to win less than half their games because they're rebuilding. When you re-tool like the Raiders do, you expect them to be in the mix of things right away.

hahahhhaha so oakland is a contender already? playoff teams to a certain extent should expect to be contenders, everybody else below incase you forgot need to reach the postseason first. well if thats how you feel homie, its all good, i ain't mad at ya
 

Tony

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I hear you dog but you don't think the 49ers will be contenders? They didn't make the postseason last year but I think they'll be in the playoffs contending this year.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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Tony said:
To me it seems like "some" Raider fans have a defeated attitude. Last year was last year. Just because we went 2-14 doesn't mean we'll go 2-14 again. We could end up going 14-2... you never know. There has been bad teams in the NFL that have turned their franchise around in one season. It's possible...

You as a fan have to set your expectations high for your team. If there is a Raider player in the locker room that believes they're only going to win 6 or 7 games he needs to be cut on the spot. The only goal should be the SuperBowl and that's it. Why settle for 6 or 7 wins and be happy? You think the New England Patriots players and their fans expect their team to win 8 or 9 games? No. The expectations are set very high in New England... that's why they're always in the playoffs/Superbowls. The Raiders and their fans have to believe that we're better than just 7 games. We need to set our expectations high like the Patriots and Colts so we can compete for SuperBowls too.

As a fan If I am going to see a Raider game at the coliseum you better believe I am going to see the Raiders win!

@Redrum: The Raiders are not in a rebuilding stage. They re-tool. Sure Al Davis has made his mistakes just like other GM's have. If they were in a rebuilding stage then yeah you can expect the team to win less than half their games because they're rebuilding. When you re-tool like the Raiders do, you expect them to be in the mix of things right away.
Bro Ive had high expectations the past 4 years and all that got me was dissapointment...why set myself up for dissapointment again? Id love to see my team do well but I gotta see them do it with my own eyes to believe it. Its just hilarious some of yall get so butt hurt just cuz people like to look at things more realistically.
 

Tony

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I am looking at things realistically dog....I mean the Raiders have a shot at the title just like every team in the NFL does at this point since we're all 0-0.
 

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3VID3NC3 said:
Bro Ive had high expectations the past 4 years and all that got me was dissapointment...why set myself up for dissapointment again? Id love to see my team do well but I gotta see them do it with my own eyes to believe it. Its just hilarious some of yall get so butt hurt just cuz people like to look at things more realistically.
^^exactly

why have high expectations for a 2-14 team? if they do bad again its just gonna leave u more disappointed

so if you THINK theyre gonna do bad it wont be such a surprise when they do
 
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Tony said:
I am looking at things realistically dog....I mean the Raiders have a shot at the title just like every team in the NFL does at this point since we're all 0-0.
11+ wins is not realistic...theres no way you can convince me of that.
The O-line will still struggle and we'll be lucky to get more than 6 wins..that is realistic. I hope Im wrong but we hardly did shit to improve the line and Kiffin still has to prove himself as an NFL head coach.
 
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3VID3NC3 said:
11+ wins is not realistic...theres no way you can convince me of that.
The O-line will still struggle and we'll be lucky to get more than 6 wins..that is realistic. I hope Im wrong but we hardly did shit to improve the line and Kiffin still has to prove himself as an NFL head coach.


realest talk by ANY Raider fan I have read in awhile!
 

Tony

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3VID3NC3 said:
11+ wins is not realistic...theres no way you can convince me of that.
The O-line will still struggle and we'll be lucky to get more than 6 wins..that is realistic. I hope Im wrong but we hardly did shit to improve the line and Kiffin still has to prove himself as an NFL head coach.
You're right in regards to Kiffin having to prove himself as an NFL Head coach. I think our o-line will be cool considering the fact that we have some coaches who will teach an updated blocking scheme. I hear you though... you gotta see it before you believe it. If we did win more than 6 games I wouldn't call it lucky though.
 
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Tony said:
@Redrum: The Raiders are not in a rebuilding stage. They re-tool. Sure Al Davis has made his mistakes just like other GM's have. If they were in a rebuilding stage then yeah you can expect the team to win less than half their games because they're rebuilding. When you re-tool like the Raiders do, you expect them to be in the mix of things right away.
LOL...they haven't been in the 'mix of things' in a while, man...they are NOT re-tooling. That's dumb to even say that. They are REBUILDING. When you are a loser for years, you don't suddenly 're-tool'...hahahahahaha

Anyways...it's whatever!

Go Raiders. PERIOD.
 
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Tony said:
You're right in regards to Kiffin having to prove himself as an NFL Head coach. I think our o-line will be cool considering the fact that we have some coaches who will teach an updated blocking scheme. I hear you though... you gotta see it before you believe it. If we did win more than 6 games I wouldn't call it lucky though.
an updated scheme means shit when you don't have the players for it.

Cooper wasn't a starter in Denver, and now you are going to Denvers scheme but he is going to be a starter and improve your line?

Newberry......older and broken...how does he fit that scheme?
 
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Tony said:
I think our o-line will be cool considering the fact that we have some coaches who will teach an updated blocking scheme.
That doesn't mean anything...the o-line has been through 5 different blocking schemes in 5 years and they looked horrible regardless. The line wont get better until the talent is upgraded..coaching can help but it can only do so much and fact is we have inferior talent for the NFL level. Our best player on the line is probally decent at best. We can only hope guys like Boothe, McQuistan and our rookie OT have break out years and Newberry is healthy. I dont expect much from the rest.
 
Aug 12, 2002
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I'm about results, and there have been none in the past few years. Nothing. You'd think that someone, somewhere would have figured it out.

Your o-line sucks. So does your QB. So you bring in a rookie QB and an unproven 'vet'...and do nothing to help this vet and rookie QB? That is my problem; is it the players fault? Yes and no. No in the fact that they are not getting help from the brass, and yes in the fact that they are PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL PLAYERS and should be able to compete at the highest level.

I'm still sticking with 5-6 wins, but hoping for more. I've seen teams with just 2 more wins get in the playoffs, so if they can do that...great.

But I'm not basing my beliefs in a new head coach with no experience, an o-line that couldn't block Britney Spears from showing her mangled pussy, and a QB who was unheard of to 99.999% of the siccness before this trade.

GO RAIDERS!
 
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dallas should be playoff bound only if that defense stays solid unlike last year when they got tore up at the end of the year. Hopefully romo does better which i think he will this year and if T.O. stays healthy and doesnt drop and passes him and romo should be tearing shit up this year and with glenn on the other side and crayton as the 3rd wr. Dam i cant wait for the season to start
 

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It's not dumb of me to say that they're re-tooling. The Raiders have been known for years for re-tooling. If they were in a rebuilding process like the 49ers were a few years ago you'd see rookies all over the field. Look at the free agents that they signed (QB McCown=Vet, RB Dominic Rhodes=Vet, C Jeremy Newberry=Vet, WR Travis Taylor=Vet, G Cooper=Vet, FB Griffith=Vet). That is re-tooling... not rebuilding.

And give Kiffin and McCown a chance before you call them unproven. Ain't no tellin' what he can do in a Raiders uniform or in Kiffin's system this year. McCown is playing for a starting job next year so he's going to want to go out there and perform.

Since you've played football you should know that that line of the Raiders that couldn't block Britney shouldn't be blamed entirely. You had Randy out there running the wrong routes (which caused our Qb's to hold onto the ball longer and no Jerry Porter)... the linemen confused and don't know who to block because of the man to man blocking scheme implemented by Shell. We had no running game period. All that "WILL" change this season.
 
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You ''re-tool'' to make improvements over specific areas of your team. The Raiders have made NO significant improvements over the past 5 years. They need to start at the ground up, pretty much...that, my friend, is rebuilding.

LOL...''give Kiffen and McCown a chance before you call them unproven"...

Bwuahahaha...give them a chance to do what? PROVE THEMSELVES??? That is WHY they are unproven.

And...if you had read ANY of my posts, I've stated repeatedly that I DO NOT BLAME THE PLAYERS entirely...MY BEEF is with the management and AL DAVIS.
 
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Tony said:
It's not dumb of me to say that they're re-tooling. The Raiders have been known for years for re-tooling. If they were in a rebuilding process like the 49ers were a few years ago you'd see rookies all over the field. Look at the free agents that they signed (QB McCown=Vet, RB Dominic Rhodes=Vet, C Jeremy Newberry=Vet, WR Travis Taylor=Vet, G Cooper=Vet). That is re-tooling... not rebuilding.

That is not re tooling


broncos lose dwill go get DRE BLY...thats retooling
that demote mike bell and get TRAVIS HENRY......that's retooling
Broncos have a good te in scheffler...they go get a great bloking and catching te in graham...THATS RETOOLING



You went and good a second rate stareting qb, an older injured linemen and and unprove "vet" linemen..and rb who has never proven they can be the # all by themsleves, and another wr who really hasn;t lived up to potential...thats not re-tooling.
 

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Dre Bly and Travis Henry...re-tooling? LOL

Bly is going to be getting hit up. He's a cover 2 corner not a man to man cover guy. Travis Henry is a good back but he ain't all that. Y'all were better off with Tatum Bell. What's so good about Travis Henry?