i bought it today....good fuckin movie....but the little nerd at blockbuster told me, "have you seen batman begins, you might want to check that one out too, cause they kinda connected"..so i got both and my lil cousin stopped by earlier and, said "homeboy got you, you aint gotta see the first one"....the joker aint no punk, and that maggie gyllenhall bitch..those plain jane lookin bitches sumtimes be the best fucks..you never know