Much Love to Heresy for being a fucking genius!

[Dirty Shoez]

LOL...WTF? You can pour syrup on shit and call it pancakes, but it's still shit. LOL...you're either way ahead of us, or way behind, but either way your timing is off, because it's canned however you spin it.

.....Thats it? Thats your response? No explanation? No evidence? Nothing? Thats all? Talk about a waste of time.

"U SUX CUZ I SAID SO, AND EVERYONE WILL AGREE WITH ME, HUH GUYS????!?!?!?!"

Yeah...real productive there.

Tadou let me remind you that my job is to give artists constructive critism and decide what sounds good. Trust me I know the game inside and out, I know more about music trends, studio, sales, and sound techniques than you, that's what I went to school for. And yes I've worked with rappers and hip hop artists, some of them were shitty some of them were talented. 1/3 of my 10,000+ song library is gangsta rap. If you're honestly making profit to support yourself then props to you, have fun doing whatever the fuck you do I don't care. Btw the last paragraph of my post was just an explanation for why I was criticizing you and maybe why I was being a little hard on you.

Thats nice. But what does you judging entire songs have to do with the singular component which is my lyricism in this verse?

"stellar lyricism"? haha as far as rap goes probably someone like Big L, i know a lot of unknown hip hop artists put much more into lyricism, unknowns with great lyrical talent are in abundance, but that's not exactly what sells. As far as gangsta rap from cali and the bay they are all about syllables and multis, but they're always repetitive and have low vocabulary... and I don't know why everyone is hyping up keak da sneak, he sucks. But we all know these mainstream rappers(swisha house, mike jones, T.I.) coming from the south are horrible lyricists, the lesser known southern rappers are alright.

Friend, just by including T.I. in your breakdown, you prove that you don't actually listen to shit but voices and words. You have no clue what Lyricism even means.

T.I. is lauded, ALL OVER THE PLACE ON THE EAST COAST, as one of the FEW Southern Lyricists. Lil Wayne and Young Jeezy are two of the other ones. And yet...you'd struggle to explain why, because you're like these 60-year-old MTV execs trying to judge whats cool and what isn't. Thats all you do.

Cool or Not Cool...thats your job. You don't have any CLUE what lyricism is or is comprised of.

he best lyricist I've ever heard? Conor Oberst... dubbed the Bob Dylan of our generation. But you would know very little about that shit ...
you stick to repetitive beats, syllables, and rhyming words..... to you, music means little else. You don't know notes, you can't sing, you can't distinguish a C# from A Minor, stop trying to make nursery rhymes sound like rocket science, the only musical terms you know are kick, snare, hi hat, keyboard, microphone, syllable and rhyme,... you my friend, do not understand the broad art of sound. Your art is poetry not sound.

See: What I said about T.I. I am not sitting here calling myself a Master of Music, or saying I make the best songs on Siccness. I am sitting here calling myself a Master of Lyricism, and that is exactly what I am, and a simpleton like you is incapable of proving otherwise.

I am sorry Rap Lyricism is such a weak area for you. You should probably e-mail me and ask me to teach you something instead of lashing out and acting like a jackass.

@ Dirty Shoez

point blank period, u just came out and hated on dood. u found a way to weasel urself into this thing, and it wasnt even bragging...XianeX made a thread directed at heresy thanking him for helping, something real HUMBLING, that maybe you should look into.

1...Wrong forum.

2...I dissed him and myself in the same paragraph, setting myself up for an easy knock-down. If i had received that simple knock-down, I would have left. Our friends, instead, decided to turn this into a Tadou's Life 101 thread, so i am obliging them.

Two things that are of concern in this thread:

You're one of those people who measure their acheivments from what OTHER PEOPLE THINK ABOUT THEM.

Holy shit, stop there. Are you kidding me?

wow, 4 languages! did u study those cuz u wanted to feel good and proud about urself? or that u could bring it up in every post and thread on here, to try and make people suck ur dick? How many books have u read? a million? wow...ur amazing. Do shit for YOURSELF homie, not so u can hype up your own ego.

First of all, that you would tell me to do something for myself, and not to hype up my ego.....you're a genius for that one. Look up what EGO actually means, and then get back to me on that one.

Segundo, I am studying them because they are needed to get a Master's degree in a Foreign Language, and I am also very interested in getting a Master's in Teaching. If you can only teach Spanish, you kinda-sorta don't get very far. It helps if you speak French or Latin as well, both of which I have studied and will continue to study.

Which reminds me.....The fuck do I have to gain by studying LATIN? You don't study Latin for yourself, you study it so you can teach it to other people. Get with the program.

Also, honestly...where do u come off dissing people that dont even direct shit at you? i mean, im not just talking about XianeX, but i mean everyone...guess we're all just little "Critters" who scurry around on the boards. but in the internet world, and perhaps in the real world (if u dont use them), ur 4 LANGUAGES dont mean SHIT. we're all equal on here, until a certain extent. u must have Napoleon complex or something.

Yes, that must be it. Napoleon complex. Either that, or i am ADHD. Or have SARS. Or [insert syndrome here that sounds intelligent but doesn't even come close to applying to the situation.]

Friend, I am an asshole that is on the rise, and you mindless fucks do nothing but get in my way and impede progress. Most of you are Liberals from Middle Class Families, so it makes sense that you love running your mouth about shit that doesn't effect you, but has life-changing ramifications for others. And that about sums it all up.

If I didn't plan to write and give Speeches in the future, I wouldn't even be on Siccness. You need to understand that every post I make on here is like a career move, something that I can add to my resume; that I can print out and have people read as proof that I don't fold under pressure.

For lots of other people here....they're seriously just wasting their fucking time. And its sad.

P.S. "Kazahkstan" is pronounced 'KAH - zahk - stahn'

Yes, friend. And breasts are pronounced: BREASTS, and not Breast-a-sis.

You are very astute.

 

[LISICKI]

Man I feel bad for HERESY for having to read through all this nonsence.

He's obviously a Dirty Hater, lets just leave it at that and move on to another post.

 

[Dirty Shoez]

Talking in the 3rd person: a sure sign of being afraid of engage someone who will literally rip you limb from limb.

Even funnier is the "let's", and how pathetic it is that you cannot lead by example, and that you can only lead in concert with others.


2 sentences, and you're already being slapped around. How does it feel to have your 15 minutes, being dissed and humbled by one of the greatest? Be honest, now.

 

[m.w.merlino]

who will literally rip you limb from limb.

Am I the only one who gets bothered when someone completely misuses the word literally?

 

[FunK-3-FivE]

@Dirty Shoes
So T.I. is a "Master Lyricist" just like you now? You and I both know what sells and talent are two totally different things, like I said it's 90% promoting your image and 10% talent.

No I don't decide what's "cool", I wish I was one of the big industry tycoons who decides the annual trends for all those white-suburban-teenage-T.I.-bumpin-gangstas out there. But I'm not, and you certainly aren't either.......LOL T.I., the dude who did "You Don't Know Me" is a master lyricist? You're fucking joking me. Please, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. And you're done trying to pick me apart, you've been wrong every time... cuz you don't know meee....... LOL.

You think I'm some dumb British bloak that produces music in Britain and is ignorant to rap in the states. What you don't know about me is I went to recording and music school in Hollywood, lived in L.A. as well as Houston, Texas. I was into rap for a long while and even rapped with some dudes from H-town, I didn't take it very seriously though. I have interned and worked for some of the biggest producers in the U.S., learned the industry standards and I can tell you more about your rap industry in the states than you would ever personally know for yourself.

 

[Dirty Shoez]

Friend, T.I. is a better lyricist than most Bay Area artists, including Yukmouth, who is no slouch. He is about equal to Ya Boy, but passes him because he does it with a twang and Y.B. uses the straight-up style.

As for your other mouth-talking and keystroking...Don't care. You can study this business inside and out, and you still will not be able to tell me shit about Lyricism, beause you know nothing. You put T.I. in the same category as Mike Jones.....you DQ'd yourself with that one, and proved you have no clue what you're talking about.


Here's redemption:

Explain how The Game and Jadakiss's styles are fundamentally different, and you will be on the road to recovery. This is something I could do in 15 minutes, and I haven't 1/10th of your training. You should be able to do it in 5.

 

[FunK-3-FivE]

Jada has an east coast style made popular by Gangstarr but more raspy you can also hear other east coast influences in his style, The Game is peculiar because he's west coast but doesn't follow the traditional rolls and multis of west coast rap, he pronunciates and raps slower. The Game also doesn't use as many metaphors as Jadakiss, his hooks are west coast enough and he has a more repetitive slow rhythm. The most notable difference to stand out is Jada's raspy voice. What's the correct answer teacher?

 

[HERESY]

I don't know the scale of the show? The man JUST SAID the scale of the show in the OPENING POST. And now you're going to grill me about it? It's laughable. Learn how to read.

No you do NOT know the scale of the show. Can you tell me how much money was spent on promoting the show? Can you tell me if the show was advertised on the radio in his market? Can you tell me if any more companies have sponsered the event? You do NOT know the scale of the show. Learn how to read AND learn how to stop hating.

Friend, there are plenty of names equivalent to the size of D-Sane or Nonstop in the OK area, and some of them are in this line-up. Don't bother trying to act like there isn't and they aren't.

Well earlier you were saying these people were unknown. Now you are saying they have names equivalent to D and Nonstop. D sane and Nonstop ARE known outside of their areas. So what is it "friend" are these people KNOWN or aren't they?

The point was that, I can almost GUARANTEE that there have been bigger shows in Tulsa. Maybe this man had a bad choice of words; I don't know. But "the biggest hip hop show/party in Tulsa EVER.", combined with the fact that OK has no huge names, only intermediate.....well, friend, it leads me to believe, 1) there HAVE BEEN bigger shows, and 2) those bigger shows included TEXAS acts.

How can you "almost gurantee" anything when you don't know shit? Example: Lets say the biggest show/party in his area had a sponsorship of 2 companies, no radio involvement and presold 200 tickets with 1,000 more at the door. Now lets say Xianex event has sponsorship from 20 companies (three of them nationwide corporations), constant radio advertisement and has presold 1200 tickets already. Which is the biggest show? If you knew ANYTHING about his market (and trust me you DON'T) you would know what his scene is like.

What are these bigger shows that took place and who are these texas rappers who performed in his area?

That you still are having issues understanding this...not my fault. Maybe you ought to take this man to task for saying "the biggest hip hop show/party in Tulsa EVER", instead of "the biggest hip hop show/party in Tulsa EVER, not featuring Texas acts".

Ok so lets change it to the biggest hip hop show/party in Tulsa EVER, not featuring Texas acts. He still has a show and will be getting PAID for the show. No texas rapper will be getting paid and YOU won't be getting paid. He does not NEED texas rappers to put on a big show in his area if his area supports its local artists.

Sounds like a personal problem.

Your hating? I agree.

It is beyond relevant. I am talking about OK and TX being joined at the hip (because they literally ARE joined at the hip), and you are bringing up Cali and WA who are separated by hundreds of miles.Context, sir. This is about CONTEXT:
"What you are saying is basically the same as 'seattle artists NEED california artists because cali artist outsell them.'"

The location/distance does NOT matter you dummy. Do you realize California artists have a LARGE market and INFLUENCE in the washington area? What you are saying is he NEEDS texas artist to put on the biggest show in his area.

The track is what it is.

Garbage.

If you want to sit here and act like it was, 1) 100% complete

It was 100% garbage, and the ONLY thing that can be done to improve the quality of the song is to ERASE it.

2) completely mixed/mastered

No amount of mixing or mastering will improve the songs quality and feel. Sorry.

3) an album track

Several of the artists partaking in this thread have recorded songs that were not album tracks, and they SHIT on the garbage you made. That song is a REFELCTION of you and your skills (or lack thereof.)

4) the lead single

See the above.

and 5) on an album I had been running around the entire Siccness promoting, proclaiming that I was about to change the rap game..........you might have a point.

Right now you are running around in the GOM, hating and proclaiming about your skills. So prove it.

Seeing as though it was some unfinished track i uploaded because I didn't have anything else at hand..........Don't care.

Ok so upload something finished. Why would you upload an unfinished track that sounded like THAT? LMAO!

If the people had a problem with the beats, they wouldn't have bought all the shit we put up for sale and our debut album would not be out of print right now. Bottom line.

Ripping off your family by urging and begging them to purchase your inflated rap garbage should be a felony. In your case out of print means:

You ordered 100 copies (maybe 50 because you are broke), sold one copy to your mom (you should be ashamed of yourself), two copies to your dad...wait lets scratch that because you said he had money problems. Ok, look you sold one copy and handed out 99 (or 49 if you purchased 50.), and because you have no money the shit went out of print.

Precisely.

OK.

This is a recurring thought among great people and great artists. Pac made an entire career out of it. BIG spoke about it in one of the last interviews before his death: waking up, thinking people are coming after him. Malcolm X spoke of it many times. You sitting here acting like this isn't a common theme in Hip-Hop or the Black Community, trying to single me out as the only one to ever think it.....just plain pathetic.

If this is a recurring thought among great people and great artist why can't YOU make a great song out of it? That song is a great pile of shit. The greatest pile of shit EVER! If it IS a common thing in hip-hop or the black community why can't YOU leave the topic alone and create something original? Why follow pac or big?

You'd make fun of me for making a song about smoking weed or wearing white t-shirts if you think you could get some traction. You'll say literally ANYTHING whether it makes sense or not.

Those type of songs do not impress me. So what if you smoke weed? AND? So what if you wear a $3 T-shirt? AND? Everything I am saying DOES make sense which is why others are also pointing it out to you. Look man your beats are weak, your spit is weak, your format is weak, damn man everything about you is weak.

You really don'ty know how to count, do you?

SWITCH..UP..MY..STYLE/FISH..ING..FOR..A..WHILE

FIVE syllables...rhyming with FOUR syllables. This is an ADVANCED USAGE. Rappers like The Game DO NOT use them, because The Game raps exactly like Jadakiss. Rappers like Cam'Ron, Juelz Santana, 151, however, DO use them, because they UNDERSTAND what they mean and how to use them.

What you posted is a simple rhyme scheme. Nothing more.

You are a faggy producer who could never learn how to rap, so I could see why you are so angry.

You don't want it with me.

Not really. I have never paid money for a beat or studio time in my lifetime. How you could say my career is in "debt" is beyond me. Yet more proof, you'll say...LITERALLY ANYTHING...whether it makes sense or not.

Your career (if we can call it that) = in debt. You are going to WASTE money by putting out a wack project. Medicocre music, forgetable flows, muddy mixes etc.

So you're making music for Mega Man and Resident Evil, and you think you have the right to judge hip-hop music? Lmao.

Have you ever been to a C.E.S show? Do you know what happesn at a C.E.S show? ANYONE here who has heard ANY of my music will tell you I am capable of playing ANY style...well except for new age GARBAGE that you come up. I do NOT limit myself and will do production for anyone.

Answer these two questions:

1. Have you EVER done any production or songs for a company that makes over $10 million in profits per year?

2. Have you EVER cashed a publishing check?

I will be waiting for your answer.

By the way, what age are you? You seem too chicken shit to list that in your profile. We both know you're late 20's, so you trying to diss someone in their early 20's for lack of experience is just plain funny.

What does age have to do with anything? I know people who are STILL green and in their TEENS, with LESS experience than you and they SHIT on you. I am not dissing you for a lack of experience. I am dissing you because you are a hater and your music (GARBAGE) sucks.

You remind me of this one comic. He said he made a bunch of 14 year old friends, so that any time they ran up to him and said "Hey look! Straight A's!" he could look at them and say "So what...I can DRIVE!" and then call them losers. -- Thats basically what you're doing right now. In fact....its EXACTLY what you're doing right now.

You are a loser.

Nothing about you is impressive when compared to all the other late 20's/early 30's aged producers here. The ONLY way you can make some ground is by comparing yourself to people who are still in college or in their teens or otherwise. Its pathetic when you really think about it.

To be honest I have already worked or advised a lot of
producers who are in in the late 20 - early 30 bracket (who post here.) Nothing about you is impressive PERIOD. Besides YOU who am I comparing myself to? Im in college and if you're a teen shut the fuck up and stay out of grown folks business.

Friend, i am talking about people that rhyme like me. Again, are you some kind of retard?

No one on this planet rhymes like you. You = garbage.

 

[HERESY]

I could take a Diggz Dime rhyme, VERBATIM, and say it was my own, and you would sit there with a shit-eating grin on your face and proclaim that I "don't chain ANY words together" --- Yet if this man Diggz came in here of his own accord and pasted the EXACT rhyme.....seeing as though you don't have personal grudges against this man, you would readily acknowledge that he in fact DOES chain words together.

I don't have a personal grudge against you. When this pc shuts off or I leave this site, YOU cease to exist. If I had a personal grudge against you I can GURANTEE you would be the FIRST to know. I do NOT know Diggz Dime so stop bringing other people into this. We are talking about YOU.

This is the way you operate: like a slimy, hateful prick that knows plenty about rap lyrics, but will sit here and act stupid if he thinks he can use his stupid-act to diss and smear other people. Its shameful that you are so afraid to be honest.

I AM being HONEST. YOU = GARBAGE.

......Last i checked, I already covered this.

"you're comparing it to people who, instead of wasting money on beer or hookers, recorded songs on $200 computers and $50 used speakers from, literally, 1989."

You are sitting here saying I'm "broke" and that my music isn't making any money, and I am TELLING YOU that we are not spending very much money on it. It has nothing to do with needing to "quit rapping". It has everything to do with STILL MAKING MONEY AND NOT *NEEDING* TO USE $500 MICS AND $1100 CONSOLES!

Why are you not spending any money to improve the quality of your production? I am not saying you need neve pre amps a full blown accel system or neuman mics. I know people who have LESS gear than you and the quality of music they have SHITS on yours. LMAO@ $1100 consoles. Personally, I would never use an $1100 console. If I were going to use a console it would have to be an SSL or Neve and they cost 250-1,000 times as much (no bullshit.)

You need to quit rapping my friend because it is obvious you want to provide a garbage product to music fans. It takes money to make money, and if you think you are going to make it without spending some money on decent gear or studio time you're a fool. Even if you don't have the best gear you STILL lack the ability to properly record and mix a song so in your case gear IS a waste of money.

Just like your career.

Talk about being brain-dead.....

Is that the condition you were in when you wrote that bullshit?

One, see below. Two, there is a difference between making moves, and proclaiming the next show you are about to do as the biggest one in the history of Tulsa.

At least he can make some sort of claim. BTW when is your next show?

Nope...don't see anything about having trouble paying for it. Any one of us could have paid cash (and there were 8 or so regulars, plus part-timers), and gotten it over with, or even gotten a better mic, or 5 better mics. But the point was....we didn't really need any other mic. We were already making noise, because our music was speaking for itself.

Sure. I don't know of ANYONE on the planet who would consider a mic that costs LESS than a c-note a MAJOR UPGRADE unless they were hurting for cash. Your music DOES speak for itself. It is constantly saying "TADOU IS GARBAGE." If it were no big deal and you didnt need another mic WHY purchase it?

Once again...a foreign concept to you, because people like you have to BUY your fans by spending tens of thousands on equipment

If the purchase will increase sales/profits I will do it. In fact I did it with my pro tools setup. :knockout:

or features, or shiny costumes, or other bullshit. You don't know anything ABOUT the essence of this shit.

At least I can say I've cashed a publishing check. :dead:

I don't fuck with people like you.

Because you can't.

I fuck with people that are about a movement and working together, not bullying and making a quick buck.

Like tyrant?

First of all, you can diss my mom all you want, because she is the one who brought my family from welfare to college to a steady job. You're the only one who's going to sound like a fucking retard for that, especially given the current lack of education and steady jobs in the Black Community.

I am not dissing your mom I aa telling the truth, and YOU are the one sounding like a retard. Just listen to that song you made LOL! Stop hating on the next black man for his LEGAL hustle. You need to be concerned about YOUR shit and making sure YOUR shit doesn't go wood (which it will.)

Second...I could really give a fuck less if you "helped" me. I help people every single day, whether I like them or not. But if you want to talk about some personal shit, I am going to shit all over you, like I am doing right now. You are a hateful pathetic little man who is not doing 1/10th of what he should be doing. You ain't about shit, and it shows.

Nothing you can do will harm me, but if you are froggy jump. Its NOTHIN! You are the hateful little man that isn't doing .000000000001/10th of what he should be doing and it shows. All you're doing is hating on someone. If I am not about shit why is someone CONGRATULATING ME FOR HELPING THEM OUT?!?!? LMAO!

You are jealous because I have more potential than you, and have the ability to change the world and the way it operates, while you can only sit back and talk about how much cash Capcom or Rapper X paid you for a beat.

The only thing you have that I don't have is an over-inflated ego, wack beats, wack lyrics and a weak mic. You will not change the world with that garbage. How much money have you made from music?

You are frustrated that people support my music but you don't like it, so you no doubt esteem them idiots and believe you are above them. You are mad at a lot of things here, buddy. And none of them are my fault as much as they are your own for having such a shitty, abusive childhood that makes you never content with what you have, and never happy unless you are shitting all over someone else's accomplishments.

In another thread I applied all of the above to you and the other reads took note. This is what YOU are doing here. When is YOUR show? The 22nd of when? Besides selling one copy to your mom and buying a cheap mic what have you done?

Friend....are you STILL not understanding this whole concept of AGE? See, friend, when you've been around longer than other people, chances are, you've: 1) spent more money, 2) accomplished more, etc etc. If you have done these things, it's not something to brag about; its something to BREATHE A SIGH OF RELIEF about, because if you haven't, then you're most likely a LOSER.

And you are a LOSER. I know people who have spent less money and have accomplished more than I have because they HAD THE GAME HANDED TO THEM. They didn't struggle and crawl, they never paid for studio time nothing. Someone took them in and gave them the game. No one handed me the game, and I started out with one drum machine (which I STILL have to this day.) Stop making excuses for yourself and accept the fact you're incapable of providing a quality product. I also know people who have shelled out LESS money than you and they SHIT on you. I have NOT been in the music business for 10 years like some of the people on this board. What you should be concerned about is setting YOUR own goals and accomplishing them. Worry about you and YOUR shows.

I have made a profit, and that is all that matters, or needs to matter. I've bought equipment, done shows, done albums, and made my money back and then some.

Put a figure on it. :dead:

Whether i spent 1,000 or 1,000,000 makes no nevermind. I am progressing the way smart people do things. You progress by spending 10's of thousands up front and crossing your fingers for a return.

Sorry, but I can put a figure on what I have made. What have you made?

Execution...Suicide...and you would deny that you're an unhappy scrappy? If it ain't broke, don't fix it'. You need to learn and understand what this phrase means. People like you are the reason rappers get in WAY THE FUCK over their heads, throwing around money listening to idiots like you, and then when shit really DOES hit the fan, they get fucked.

Well why did you listen to me when I told you what piece of equipment to purchase? Didn't it save you money, and isn't it a superior product? No person on this site (or off) can make the claim that I have made them loose money. The people on this site will tell you I have HELPED them make money. That is why this thread exists. Has ANYONE on the siccness EVER thanked you for ANY music business advice or tips? No. Anyone offline? No. Shutup.

Again, I'm in this for the long term. You're in it for a quick buck. Big difference.

This is the music BUSINESS and yes some peopel are in it for the quick buck. I am not in it for the quick buck which is why I have a client list outside of rap music. Do you have a client list outside of rap music? Anyone who knows me knows what I am in it for.

And what the fuck man? People need to learn how to shut the fuck up. If this man's case is so concrete, why such a rush to pile on and make sure I don't come back? Looks like fear to me.

Why would anyone here fear someone waking up with panic attacks? What had you scared shitless in the first place? This nigga needs meds! LMAO!

 

[MaddDogg]

I should have stopped reading this when I figured out Dirty Shoes is Tadou.

 

[Cmoke]

You hate and hate and hate on upcoming artists, and call their lyrics simple and their beats garbage....

BITCH, THATS THE ONLY REASON YO FAGGOT ASS IS EVEN IN THIS THREAD, PERIOD.

CUZ UR A FUCKIN HYPOCRYTE THAT CANT STOP SUCKIN HIS OWN DICK AND HATIN ON OTHER PPL COMIN UP....

GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE PUNK BITCH. YOU KNOW U LOOK LIKE A MARK ASS LITTLE TRICK TO EVERYONE IN HERE. BOW OUT FIND A NEW THREAD TO RUIN. FAGGOT.

 

[Cmoke]

every thread i see your name in is 15 pages long with every fucking sentence somone typed chopped and dissected so that you can rebuttle and get your revenge by responding to each and every one of them.....find a fuckin hobby internet boy.

 

[Dirty Shoez]

No you do NOT know the scale of the show. Can you tell me how much money was spent on promoting the show? Can you tell me if the show was advertised on the radio in his market? Can you tell me if any more companies have sponsered the event? You do NOT know the scale of the show. Learn how to read AND learn how to stop hating.

I have learned reading. The scale of the show? The amount of money? "The Biggest show in the history of Tulsa"'s worth.

What, are you going to MAKE ME go find a link to a show with Lil Flip or Scarface that sold thousands of tickets, then seek down the numbers from this show, just so i can scream out "I TOLD YOU SO"? What seems to be your boggle?

Well earlier you were saying these people were unknown. Now you are saying they have names equivalent to D and Nonstop. D sane and Nonstop ARE known outside of their areas. So what is it "friend" are these people KNOWN or aren't they?

"Known", Yes. Known, no. You DO understand the difference, don't you?

Ask 100 hip-hop fans outside of Washington who D-Sane or Nonstop are, and 9 times out of 10, you're going to get 0/100 or 1/100. That is just a fact of life. Ask 100 west coast hip-hop fans the same, and 9 times out of 10, less than 5/100 will know them. Also, a fact of life.

If you consider that 5/100 to be "Known", which is probably the same result you'd get for these OK stars in Mississippi or Louisiana...YES...they are "known". But they are far from KNOWN.

How can you "almost gurantee" anything when you don't know shit? Example: Lets say the biggest show/party in his area had a sponsorship of 2 companies, no radio involvement and presold 200 tickets with 1,000 more at the door. Now lets say Xianex event has sponsorship from 20 companies (three of them nationwide corporations), constant radio advertisement and has presold 1200 tickets already. Which is the biggest show? If you knew ANYTHING about his market (and trust me you DON'T) you would know what his scene is like.

What are these bigger shows that took place and who are these texas rappers who performed in his area?

Before I go out and waste my time, i want you to give me something. If i find out of a show that sold more tickets, i want you to leave Siccness for a month. You seem to be so convinced that there hasn't been a bigger show, so i want you to make that pledge, and then and ONLY then will i go track something down.

Ok so lets change it to the biggest hip hop show/party in Tulsa EVER, not featuring Texas acts. He still has a show and will be getting PAID for the show. No texas rapper will be getting paid and YOU won't be getting paid. He does not NEED texas rappers to put on a big show in his area if his area supports its local artists.

Then advertise it as such, "not featuring Texas acts". It's a really simple concept. Leaving out this distinction was 85% of the reason i said anything in the first place.

Your hating? I agree.

Stop chopping so much shit up. You already know what it leads to: you quitting when these posts grow too big.

The location/distance does NOT matter you dummy. Do you realize California artists have a LARGE market and INFLUENCE in the washington area? What you are saying is he NEEDS texas artist to put on the biggest show in his area.

Hmm...MAYBE BECAUSE THAT IS THE WAY THE GAME GOES!!!

You sit here and you run your mouth about Cali artists having a huge influence in Washington, and yet, you cannot even bring your weak, chubby fingers to type out the same about OK and TX? If you can't respect that, your whole perspective is wack.

Garbage.

More like, a sampler track I never promoted in the first place. I have people like you to do that for me.

It was 100% garbage, and the ONLY thing that can be done to improve the quality of the song is to ERASE it.

HAR! And then you wonder why you get none of my respect in regards to lyricism: You know nothing about it.

No amount of mixing or mastering will improve the songs quality and feel. Sorry.

And no amount of shit-talking and whining will make you respected in regards to lyricism. Sorry.

Several of the artists partaking in this thread have recorded songs that were not album tracks, and they SHIT on the garbage you made. That song is a REFELCTION of you and your skills (or lack thereof.)

Friend, we have already been over this. When you are on one of your little rampages, you will say literally anything, up to and including you were able to record such-and-such song a whle back with mouth wash and a quarter, and it "sounded better" than the "garbage" i did.

I've heard this argument before, and its stupid as shit. Again: You have literally no concept of making music for a specific area and not spreading it to every corner of the globe. Nothing about you understands that our fans and supporters ENJOY these types of beats, and don't give a fuck if they hear them on KUBE or KMEL. You're a Hollywood Rebel and that about sums it up. You're full of shit.

See the above.

Indeed. Especially the part about you making this post swell larger than it needs to be, and then quitting like you usually do.

Right now you are running around in the GOM, hating and proclaiming about your skills. So prove it.

As a reaction to you sitting here and being a jackass. I did not want this. I did not make a thread about this track, or about how good I am. Now that that is the topic of conversation......Yes, indeed, I am really that damn good.

The track speaks for itself. It is one small example of what I am capable of. It was recorded last June so you can do the math for yourself on how long ago it was written...and yet it STILL IS (forget WAS) ahead of its time.

Ok so upload something finished. Why would you upload an unfinished track that sounded like THAT? LMAO!

Because only out-of-work underachievers like you would give a fuck! LMAO!

I will upload something when I feel like it. You already know I just bought a piece of recording equipment. You already know I will be learning to mix/master myself. Obviously, I must be up to something, and recording my own material would be a good guess.

Ripping off your family by urging and begging them to purchase your inflated rap garbage should be a felony. In your case out of print means:

You ordered 100 copies (maybe 50 because you are broke), sold one copy to your mom (you should be ashamed of yourself), two copies to your dad...wait lets scratch that because you said he had money problems. Ok, look you sold one copy and handed out 99 (or 49 if you purchased 50.), and because you have no money the shit went out of print.

If you want to juice more specifics out of me, you're going to have to try harder than that.

I know it pains you to face the reality that people bought albums without your stellar production, or without first obtaining your stamp of approval but...believe me...it happened. And it happened over and over again, and it didn't stop until the last box of replicated albums was gone.

If this is a recurring thought among great people and great artist why can't YOU make a great song out of it? That song is a great pile of shit. The greatest pile of shit EVER! If it IS a common thing in hip-hop or the black community why can't YOU leave the topic alone and create something original? Why follow pac or big?

Why sit here and run your mouth about shit that makes no nevermind?

I am not doing business with you. You are not doing business with me. What does it matter to you if I make a song about this or that, and what should it matter to me if you make a beat that sounds like this or that?

You are a nobody to me. Nothing about what I do that needs to be explained to you. I am doing you a service here, to help you understand how to reach those markets you've NEVER been able to reach and thus the reason you're in your late 20s/early 30s, still sitting on Siccness acting like a fucking moron, surrounded by expensive equipment that you still can't make it over the top with.

Those type of songs do not impress me. So what if you smoke weed? AND? So what if you wear a $3 T-shirt? AND? Everything I am saying DOES make sense which is why others are also pointing it out to you. Look man your beats are weak, your spit is weak, your format is weak, damn man everything about you is weak.

The people think otherwise of me, and that is what matters. If i had done nothing but lose money and been denied chances to perform, I would have taken the hint by now. But seeing as though i have made money, been invited to studios, been invited to do guest verses, been invited to do shows, etc...it's kinda hard to take some internet character's word for it that I don't have my niche audience, when I so obviously...Do.

What you posted is a simple rhyme scheme. Nothing more.

Everything more, but you're too brain-dead to know the difference.

You don't want it with me.

Want has nothing to do with it. I am taking it there with you, and you cannot do a damn thing about it but give up like a coward like you always do.

Your career (if we can call it that) = in debt. You are going to WASTE money by putting out a wack project. Medicocre music, forgetable flows, muddy mixes etc.

Key words: "are going to".

What has ALREADY BEEN done? Money has been spent & profit has been made. I don't need the thumbs up from some has-been over 1K miles away to sell records.

Have you ever been to a C.E.S show? Do you know what happesn at a C.E.S show? ANYONE here who has heard ANY of my music will tell you I am capable of playing ANY style...well except for new age GARBAGE that you come up. I do NOT limit myself and will do production for anyone.

.

 

[Dirty Shoez]

Answer these two questions:

1. Have you EVER done any production or songs for a company that makes over $10 million in profits per year?

2. Have you EVER cashed a publishing check?

I will be waiting for your answer.

No and No. Simple enough.

Now your turn: Did you do both of these things before your 22nd birthday? If yes: How many college credits did you have at the time?

I'll be waiting on your response.

What does age have to do with anything? I know people who are STILL green and in their TEENS, with LESS experience than you and they SHIT on you. I am not dissing you for a lack of experience. I am dissing you because you are a hater and your music (GARBAGE) sucks.

You are a loser.

Look at yourself, guey. You've been reduced from cashing royalty checks and working for the multi-billion dollar gaming industry, to arguing online with screen names.

To be honest I have already worked or advised a lot of producers who are in in the late 20 - early 30 bracket (who post here.) Nothing about you is impressive PERIOD. Besides YOU who am I comparing myself to? Im in college and if you're a teen shut the fuck up and stay out of grown folks business.

In what college? I'm in University. You're in Community College, if i remember correctly.

No one on this planet rhymes like you. You = garbage.

Plenty do, and the fact you cannot recognize this is yet more proof you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

I don't have a personal grudge against you. When this pc shuts off or I leave this site, YOU cease to exist. If I had a personal grudge against you I can GURANTEE you would be the FIRST to know. I do NOT know Diggz Dime so stop bringing other people into this. We are talking about YOU.

Again, Him...rhymes a lot like me...has posted on this site before...very much to do with this.

And i don't care about off the internet. On the internet, you seem to have a problem, and that problem is that you think my mouth writes checks that my ass can't cash. And that is your personal opinion.

The fact is, the people are feeling and buying my music, and have bought and enjoyed everything of mine put out. This is not likely to now stop because you have discovered you don't like my music. In fact, it will probably go just the opposite way now that I have more money to spend and time to dedicate.

I AM being HONEST. YOU = GARBAGE.

And I am being honest too. You = Inconsequential.

Why are you not spending any money to improve the quality of your production? I am not saying you need neve pre amps a full blown accel system or neuman mics. I know people who have LESS gear than you and the quality of music they have SHITS on yours.

Pause...I could swear I already predicted you would say this.

LMAO@ $1100 consoles. Personally, I would never use an $1100 console. If I were going to use a console it would have to be an SSL or Neve and they cost 250-1,000 times as much (no bullshit.)

.

As for the reason I am not spending more, I have already covered this: It was unnecessary. Why give the people parfait when all they want is ice cream? Why give them Fetuccini when all they ask of you is Top Ramen?

You need to understand that I am not from the Bay or Seattle, and that the people demand much less. All they want is another collection of tracks they can sit back and listen to; not music that supplements and matches what they already hear every day on the radio or in the club.

You need to quit rapping my friend because it is obvious you want to provide a garbage product to music fans. It takes money to make money, and if you think you are going to make it without spending some money on decent gear or studio time you're a fool. Even if you don't have the best gear you STILL lack the ability to properly record and mix a song so in your case gear IS a waste of money.

Holy shit, we're actually getting down to business here. I mean, you're telling me to quit and giving me an opening to explain myself in the same response, but hey, its a start.

Again...didn't need to. Now that I'm outside of my home town, yes, need to...and will do. In case you didn't notice, I'm not running around promoting my next LP (which is by the way already written and ready to go, sans features and beats). I am waiting until i find the right recording situation so i can GUARANTEE that the album will be high quality and i won't be wasting my time and money.

Just like your career.

3/5. Needed better timing.

Is that the condition you were in when you wrote that bullshit?

Something along those lines, sport. I mean, you've produced beats for Capcom before. You obviously know how to differentiate between average and above-average lyricism.

You can't EXPLAIN why without simply declaring it is "simple simon", and leaving it at that. But I mean, that should be enough. Few people here have cashed royalty checks, so who are they to question YOUR judgement?

At least he can make some sort of claim. BTW when is your next show?

You tell me. You seem to know everything else already.

Sure. I don't know of ANYONE on the planet who would consider a mic that costs LESS than a c-note a MAJOR UPGRADE unless they were hurting for cash.

...or unless there was no need for the mic in the first place, which there really wasn't.

Its amazing: you talk all kinds of shit about me and the people I rap with, and then you become completely ignorant of that when it comes time to accept and acknowledge this it-wasn't-needed explanation.

Your music DOES speak for itself. It is constantly saying "TADOU IS GARBAGE." If it were no big deal and you didnt need another mic WHY purchase it?

Because it was time to take the next step, and to prove it, I had to shell out my own money. (Here i am, admitting to spending more money to raise the production value, and you're now criticizing me for it.)

If you still want to believe i say it was a "major upgrade" because we STRUGGLED to raise the money, then I don't know what to tell you. It was a big MENTAL upgrade, to realize we were now spending our own personal money on our music, and not just utilizing the equipment that was already there.

If the purchase will increase sales/profits I will do it. In fact I did it with my pro tools setup. :knockout:

See ^^^^.

At least I can say I've cashed a publishing check. :dead:

See the part about you being beyond reproach (in regards to *ANYTHING* music related) because you've cashed a publishing check.

Because you can't.

Because I don't need to. People like you are a waste and are more interested in MONEY and EQUIPMENT, than the ART and the PEOPLE.

Like tyrant?

Yes.

I am not dissing your mom I aa telling the truth, and YOU are the one sounding like a retard. Just listen to that song you made LOL! Stop hating on the next black man for his LEGAL hustle. You need to be concerned about YOUR shit and making sure YOUR shit doesn't go wood (which it will.)

Hard to 'go' anything when you don't sign any deals. Profit has been made, and will continue to be made,whether you personally like it or not.

Nothing you can do will harm me, but if you are froggy jump. Its NOTHIN! You are the hateful little man that isn't doing .000000000001/10th of what he should be doing and it shows. All you're doing is hating on someone. If I am not about shit why is someone CONGRATULATING ME FOR HELPING THEM OUT?!?!? LMAO!

I'm not doing .000000000001/10th of what I should be doing by being on the path to being the first one in my family to graduate University? What exactly SHOULD i be doing then? Pulling a You? Spending every dime i have on equipment, and sitting around, waiting for a CAPCOM or Rapper X phone call?

The only thing you have that I don't have is an over-inflated ego, wack beats, wack lyrics and a weak mic. You will not change the world with that garbage. How much money have you made from music?

Over double what I spent.

And I don't intend to change the world with Rap Music. I'll have multiple languages and a teaching degree to help me with that part.

In another thread I applied all of the above to you and the other reads took note. This is what YOU are doing here. When is YOUR show? The 22nd of when? Besides selling one copy to your mom and buying a cheap mic what have you done?

Does it matter? Even if i sold 9,999 albums, you'd be sitting here like a retard, ragging on me for not selling 10,000.

 

[Dirty Shoez]

And you are a LOSER. I know people who have spent less money and have accomplished more than I have because they HAD THE GAME HANDED TO THEM. They didn't struggle and crawl, they never paid for studio time nothing. Someone took them in and gave them the game. No one handed me the game, and I started out with one drum machine (which I STILL have to this day.) Stop making excuses for yourself and accept the fact you're incapable of providing a quality product. I also know people who have shelled out LESS money than you and they SHIT on you. I have NOT been in the music business for 10 years like some of the people on this board. What you should be concerned about is setting YOUR own goals and accomplishing them. Worry about you and YOUR shows.

I've been offered studio time at too many places to count. I've turned down most of them. If that doesn't explain my situation to you, I don't know what will. I'm not LIKE YOU. I don't live for praise and props and people telling me I'm the shit.

I don't HAVE to accomplish anything in peoples like you's eyes to continue making music. The ONLY thing I need to do is make music for the people, which is what I have done; and make all my money back, which I have also done. And as long as I keep on making my money back, I will continue to up the ante each time around.

Put a figure on it. :dead:

More than double what I spent.

Sorry, but I can put a figure on what I have made. What have you made?

More than double what I spent.

Well why did you listen to me when I told you what piece of equipment to purchase? Didn't it save you money, and isn't it a superior product? No person on this site (or off) can make the claim that I have made them loose money. The people on this site will tell you I have HELPED them make money. That is why this thread exists.

Personally = You are a son of a bitch.
Professionally = You are a son of a bitch.
Education-wise = Everything minus Technology, You are a son of a bitch.
That is basically the way it goes.

I would never ask you shit about how to make beats, because you've already demonstrated you don't listen to them; you listen to the people making them. If you don't personally like the person making the beat, you'll say literally anything to discourage them from making beats. That about sums you up in the Art department. -- But As far as Technology goes...only a fool would tell you you didn't know your shit.

Has ANYONE on the siccness EVER thanked you for ANY music business advice or tips? No. Anyone offline? No. Shutup.

Something along those lines....Yes. I made a business-centered monologue a while back about "Who can sell 25k units?" in the NW forum, and i had several people tell me it was some of the realest talk they had ever heard on the board.

This is the music BUSINESS and yes some peopel are in it for the quick buck. I am not in it for the quick buck which is why I have a client list outside of rap music. Do you have a client list outside of rap music? Anyone who knows me knows what I am in it for.

Well.....Go you.

Nevermind the fact that what you say doesn't add up: you imply that if i don't have stellar production quality, I won't sell, which is basically an admission that if what I have doesn't sound like CURRENT, QUICK-BUCK production, then it is a waste of time to you; you have proclaimed you aren't in this for the quick buck, and thus, it must be true.

Why would anyone here fear someone waking up with panic attacks? What had you scared shitless in the first place? This nigga needs meds! LMAO!

Lol!!! So funny!!!

Already been over it. People like you = Not great; not unique. You're so much of a non-conformist, you've become a predictable, conformist non-conformist. Everything about you conforms to being a non-conformist. You hate the police. You hate republicans (and democrats, when someone points out your bias towards republicans). You hate the government. And blah blah, and on and on.

People like me? Actually dedicated to making a change. Dedicated to overhauling the Black community. Dedicated to bringing back moral values. Dedicated to the eradication of illegal drugs.

Now, who is more likely to die? YOU, for being an average ass nigga speaking out against the Government, while you cash your corporate checks? Or ME, for being a genius ass nigga since birth, and declaring that I WILL put drug dealers, abortionists, etc. out of work?

Its a real simple question.

Jada has an east coast style made popular by Gangstarr but more raspy you can also hear other east coast influences in his style, The Game is peculiar because he's west coast but doesn't follow the traditional rolls and multis of west coast rap, he pronunciates and raps slower. The Game also doesn't use as many metaphors as Jadakiss, his hooks are west coast enough and he has a more repetitive slow rhythm. The most notable difference to stand out is Jada's raspy voice. What's the correct answer teacher?

Close, but i don't quite think you have it. Having a rapsy voice has nothing to do with anything.

Explain how Freeway and Beanie Siegel differentiate from both of them, and we might have something.

 

[HERESY]

I had a long in depth reply killing you again, but I won't post it. What I will post is proof you are a fraud and liar.

You already know I just bought a piece of recording equipment.

So?

You already know I will be learning to mix/master myself.

Good luck.

Now I am going to once again expose you for the fraud and liar that you are. You said:

Obviously, I must be up to something, and recording my own material would be a good guess.

In another thread you said this:

That would basically be the only use this HDR would get; I *would not* be using it to record albums or other similar things.

:dead:

So not only are you a hater and weak lyricsit you are a liar. And from YOUR own fingers/mouth:

This mega-rapper stuff isn't going as planned, so its time for me to put some more weight on.

THOSE ARE YOUR WORDS NOT MINE MR.GREAT LYRICIST!!! So which is it are you going to use the shit to record concerts and stream it (I was able to read the UNEDITED thread) or are you going to record your own music? Are you going to change the world with your rap (your own words) or are you facing hard ships because the mega-rapper stuff isn't going as planned?


No more attention for you.

 

[Dirty Shoez]

Very Astute. Now let's see:

"I *would not* be using it to record albums or other similar things." -- It will indeed be used to record the occasional song here or there; not album songs, but mixtape-style songs. I'd have to be an idiot to record, mix and master my album on a VS-880.


Here is a break down, sir champion, since I know this will still go over your head:

1) I will record a song on my VS-880 using my SM-58 (NON-recording) microphone.
2) I will practice mixing and mastering the track by myself.
3) Once i feel the track is ready, I will go record the vocals SOMEWHERE ELSE.
4) I will then play back the mix that I created, and go over how i want the ENGINEER to mix it.
5) THEY will finish the track with THEIR equipment; NOT me and NOT on the VS.

Ergo
6) The VS will NOT be used to Record albums. It will be used for PRACTICE.


Mega-Rapper, No. Rapper...Yes.

You talked earlier about people who had the game handed to them? I have had the game offered to me and turned it down (whether you accept this truth or not), because I did not feel like it was good timing. Once i learn basic Recording and Mixing...it will be excellent timing. I will no longer just be another rapper (stellar though I may be), but someone who can also help out behind the scenes.


Anything else you're having problems understanding? You need to realize that even when you think you caught me in a lie, you have not. It makes absolutely no sense to record an album on a VS, when Pro Tools is all over the place. Get with the program.

 

[HERESY]

Very Astute. Now let's see:

"I *would not* be using it to record albums or other similar things." -- It will indeed be used to record the occasional song here or there; not album songs, but mixtape-style songs. I'd have to be an idiot to record, mix and master my album on a VS-880.


Here is a break down, sir champion, since I know this will still go over your head:

1) I will record a song on my VS-880 using my SM-58 (NON-recording) microphone.
2) I will practice mixing and mastering the track by myself.
3) Once i feel the track is ready, I will go record the vocals SOMEWHERE ELSE.
4) I will then play back the mix that I created, and go over how i want the ENGINEER to mix it.
5) THEY will finish the track with THEIR equipment; NOT me and NOT on the VS.

Ergo
6) The VS will NOT be used to Record albums. It will be used for PRACTICE.


Mega-Rapper, No. Rapper...Yes.

You talked earlier about people who had the game handed to them? I have had the game offered to me and turned it down (whether you accept this truth or not), because I did not feel like it was good timing. Once i learn basic Recording and Mixing...it will be excellent timing. I will no longer just be another rapper (stellar though I may be), but someone who can also help out behind the scenes.


Anything else you're having problems understanding? You need to realize that even when you think you caught me in a lie, you have not. It makes absolutely no sense to record an album on a VS, when Pro Tools is all over the place. Get with the program.

or other similar things

pre production (what you are doing) IS similar things. It DOES make sense to record an album on the vs if you know how to use it. Just because something was dropped in pro tools that doesnt make it GREAT nor does it mean your music quality will improve. If you are still recording garbage songs, still recording at a fucked up level and cant mix worth shit pro tools is USELESS.

Anyway man enjoy life and may God bless your rap career.

 

[L Mac-a-docious]

.....Thats it? Thats your response? No explanation? No evidence? Nothing? Thats all? Talk about a waste of time.

"U SUX CUZ I SAID SO, AND EVERYONE WILL AGREE WITH ME, HUH GUYS????!?!?!?!"

Yeah...real productive there.

No evidence? The proof is in the pudding. I don't care about your magical syllabic set up, the substance is lacking, period. You say nothing, and then slurp yourself for doing it in a certain meter. I'd say practice and get better, but you're so big headed about your canned ass shit that I suppose there is no hope for you. The real waste of time is any that you spend with a mic.

 

[The Duke of Earl]

foreal tadou that song was fuckin gay everyone on the board can agree