Much Love to Heresy for being a fucking genius!

[HERESY]

Oklahoma is right next to Texas. I'm sure that many OK rap shows feature big name TX artists.

How are you SURE of this?

I am also sure that any rapper who makes it big in OK must also be able to make it big in TX.

If that is part of the market yes, but HOW is this relevent? He does NOT need to include people from Texas in his show if he doesn't want to.

There are no famous OK artists.

Your point?

Big name TX artists undoubtedly outsell OK artists in their own state.

Big name Detroit artists outsell California artists in Ca. New York artist outsell cali artists in cali. Your point?

Any OK artist who wants to make money needs to go to TX, and any OK artist who needs to prove he has made it needs to be able to bring back and do big shows with TX artists.

Dumb ass, if he is doing a show in HIS city, with HIS city's radio station and it's the FIRST of it's kind WHY does he need rappers from Texas? He should concentrate on building a foundation and putting HIMSELF on first before he goes and get people from Texas. If the show is geared toward the people of oklahoma and the hoods of oklahoma those are the people his show should cater to.

What are you anyways, some kind of fuckin' retard? TX is the 600lb Gorilla of the South, and OK is TX's bitch. They run shit. You cannot run a big show in Oklahoma without some major Texas acts. Without them, your show is mediocre at best.

I am a retard yet you rap over beats that sound like shit. LOL! Once again if the show is showcasing talent FROM his city and that is what the emphasis is on, texas is not applicable. What you are saying is basically the same as "seattle artists NEED california artists because cali artist outsell them."

You can't even talk about Oklahoma rap without bringing up Texas. To not do so would be just plain ignorant, especially in the context of "making moves".

And YOU can't talk about living the american dream when you have admitted to being POOR. You don't know what the hell he has planned or what type of moves he has made. Stop being a hater and let the man handle his business. At least he is making some type of moves what the fuck are you doing? You are too busy doing scientology rap over pop tart beats. Shut the fuck up.

I have thrown and performed at plenty of shows, friend

Where? The mental institution? Elementary school? Were your shows mediocre because you didn't have cali artists? Stop being a hater and let that man handle his shit.

I have footage of them available online too, which you probably have saved on your hard drive already.

I am sorry "friend" I have never heard of you or peeped a show of yours.

My fans are currently waiting for my debut album, which should drop some time in Late 2006.

Your "fans" consist of stuffed animals and your mom. Maybe that Tyrant guy and his family. Btw what the fuck is tyranical about him?

First of all, if my rap is "simple simon" to you, then you have just demonstrate that you don't know the first fucking thing about lyricism.

Here is the first lien to that bullshit song you recorded:

"yo I be wakin up havin panic attacks/so bad I rather fight for the man in iraq"

WHAT THE FUCK IS LYRICAL ABOUT THAT? IF ANYTHING YOU ADMIT TO BEING A BITCH AND WAKING UP IN A COLD SWEAT! HAVING FUCKIN PANIC ATTACKS AND EPISODES! LMAO!

We can take that much to any rap forum on the internet, or any studio in the universe, and watch you get embarassed.

You don't want it with me. Stay in your place, continue to make age of aquarius music, and drop your cd for your mammy.

Second of all, I don't make beats. So i don't really care.

YOU RAPPED ON IT!!! YOU SHOULD CARE!!!! THAT BEAT = CAN.

You make all your shit with $900 consoles and $2000 keyboards

??!?!?! HUH? LMAO@"$900 DOLLAR CONSOLE". $2000 DOLLAR KEYBOARDS? YEAH SEVERAL OF THOSE....

and you're comparing it to people who, instead of wasting money on beer or hookers recorded songs on $200 computers and $50 used speakers from, literally, 1989.

I thought you were living the american dream. :dead:
I know people who have used LESS than what YOU have just listed and they were able to make music that destroys that garbage. That song = Garb and ANYTHING else you have made = garb. Stop making music. Listen to your music with an unbiased opinion, and I gurantee you will want to slap the shit out of yourself for making it.

I made a smart-assed comment, and made fun of myself in the same paragraph. It could have gone either way. You could have told a funny joke, perhaps brushed me off with a snide comment; or you could have monologued and whined. -- You chose to monologue and whine. Not my fault

No one is whining and you need to be addressed. YOu are hating on another black man for his accomplishments. This man could be out selling dope and robbing people yet he has gone to school, earned several degrees and is making moves in his music career. No they might not be GIGANTIC moves but at LEAST he is seeing results. At least his beats hit harder than yours and at least his flows are better. Get the fuck off your high horse man and stop being a hater. And I garee with cmoke (a FIRST) I think you get off on this shit.

Really though, friend, Let's make 2 threads of this. One in the southern forum: "Can Oklahoma rappers throw truly big shows without big-name Texas artists?", and another either right here or in the Open Forum: "Is there anything wrong with rapping to make spare money, or are you REQUIRED to try to be Hollywood, get distro, work with big-name artists, and so on?"

Why the hell are you always asking me to make threads with you? Fuck you. I wouldn't make shit with your ass unless I was getting paid for it and even then I would second guess. Rapping to make spare money? Listen IF RAPPERS GET PAID TELL ME WHY ARE YOU BROKE? :dead:

You are NOT required to do a DAMN thing but meet the needs of your demographic.

Continuing this conversation in this thread will only be more proof that you are an attention whore and don't really care about discussing topics: You just care about bitching and whining and reading yourself talk.

And you constantly show hate so what else is new? Let him do his thing and you stay concerned with what you do. What YOU should be concerned about is getting cohesive mixes, BETTER BEATS and better lyrics. Concentrate on that and leave others alone.

 

[LISICKI]

H
Here is the first lien to that bullshit song you recorded:

"yo I be wakin up havin panic attacks/so bad I rather fight for the man in iraq"

WHAT THE FUCK IS LYRICAL ABOUT THAT? IF ANYTHING YOU ADMIT TO BEING A BITCH AND WAKING UP IN A COLD SWEAT! HAVING FUCKIN PANIC ATTACKS AND EPISODES! LMAO!



You don't want it with me. Stay in your place, continue to make age of aquarius music, and drop your cd for your mammy.
.

Thats some funny shit HERESY.

 

[Dirty Shoez]

How are you SURE of this?

If that is part of the market yes, but HOW is this relevent? He does NOT need to include people from Texas in his show if he doesn't want to.

Your point?

Big name Detroit artists outsell California artists in Ca. New York artist outsell cali artists in cali. Your point?

Dumb ass, if he is doing a show in HIS city, with HIS city's radio station and it's the FIRST of it's kind WHY does he need rappers from Texas? He should concentrate on building a foundation and putting HIMSELF on first before he goes and get people from Texas. If the show is geared toward the people of oklahoma and the hoods of oklahoma those are the people his show should cater to.

Friend...I said he is doing a show with no-names. I feel i am qualified to speak on this, because I have been listening to Underground Southern music for several years now. What exactly don't you understand about this?

It would be like me saying I'm doing a show next week with Byrdie and Pete Miser. 99% of rap listeners in my own CITY are going to look at me like "Yeah...so?", let alone 99.999999999% of the Hip-Hop population OUTSIDE of it.

I am a retard yet you rap over beats that sound like shit. LOL! Once again if the show is showcasing talent FROM his city and that is what the emphasis is on, texas is not applicable. What you are saying is basically the same as "seattle artists NEED california artists because cali artist outsell them."

OK and TX are right next to each other. Cali and WA are not. Try again.

And YOU can't talk about living the american dream when you have admitted to being POOR. You don't know what the hell he has planned or what type of moves he has made. Stop being a hater and let the man handle his business. At least he is making some type of moves what the fuck are you doing? You are too busy doing scientology rap over pop tart beats. Shut the fuck up.

Dude, you don't even make any sense. The beat sounds nothing at all futuristic, and you'd have to be a jackass or a heckler to believe that. It is clearly sampled from a 70's or 80's era song, if not earlier.

Where? The mental institution? Elementary school? Were your shows mediocre because you didn't have cali artists? Stop being a hater and let that man handle his shit.

I am sorry "friend" I have never heard of you or peeped a show of yours.

Your "fans" consist of stuffed animals and your mom. Maybe that Tyrant guy and his family. Btw what the fuck is tyranical about him?

OK.

Here is the first lien to that bullshit song you recorded:

"yo I be wakin up havin panic attacks/so bad I rather fight for the man in iraq"

WHAT THE FUCK IS LYRICAL ABOUT THAT? IF ANYTHING YOU ADMIT TO BEING A BITCH AND WAKING UP IN A COLD SWEAT! HAVING FUCKIN PANIC ATTACKS AND EPISODES! LMAO!

Uh.....I'll try to do this real slow for you: PAN-IC AT-TACKS....MAN IN I-RAQ

4 syllables...4 syllables; not only that, the 2nd 4 syllables is spread out, which makes it sound more like 4 syllables rhyming with 5 syllables. This is what you call an ADVANCED rhyme, and something only ADVANCED rappers are capable of. I am sorry that this went right over your head, as you were entirely focused on and dumbfounded by the words instead.

Later rhymes:
Switch-up-my-style....fishin-for-a-while...4 and 5.
Know-what-I-Said....Know-I'm-the-Best...4 and 4.
Silence-me....Ride-for-me?....3 and ~4.
Stay-for-my-family...grave-for-my-family...~7 and 6.

Not to mention the amount of staggering, overlaps, underlaps, etc. that I did. But then again, you have no clue what most of these things even mean.

Champion, you need to understand that the same way nobody here understands how the fuck you can call yourself a super producer with your average-sounding beats, that I am one of the most lyrically superior artists on this entire website. I am not talking about content, or telling stories, or any of this shit; I am talking about actual Lyrical Mechanics. There is not a man on this site capable of matching me. The closest comparison is perhaps Mista Cane or Diggz Dime, but still not quite.

You don't want it with me. Stay in your place, continue to make age of aquarius music, and drop your cd for your mammy.

YOU RAPPED ON IT!!! YOU SHOULD CARE!!!! THAT BEAT = CAN.

??!?!?! HUH? LMAO@"$900 DOLLAR CONSOLE". $2000 DOLLAR KEYBOARDS? YEAH SEVERAL OF THOSE....

OK.

Friend, I am being serious here. That song was recorded on a Behringer B-1, which for us was a major upgrade that was paid for by 2 people.

I thought you were living the american dream. :dead: I know people who have used LESS than what YOU have just listed and they were able to make music that destroys that garbage. That song = Garb and ANYTHING else you have made = garb. Stop making music. Listen to your music with an unbiased opinion, and I gurantee you will want to slap the shit out of yourself for making it.

Great. It's the old "I could record with a tin can and a package of chewing gum, and sound better than you!!" argument. Been there...done that. Different strokes for different stokes. My music has made me PROFIT, and that is all that matters. Can you say the same?

No one is whining and you need to be addressed. YOu are hating on another black man for his accomplishments. This man could be out selling dope and robbing people yet he has gone to school, earned several degrees and is making moves in his music career. No they might not be GIGANTIC moves but at LEAST he is seeing results. At least his beats hit harder than yours and at least his flows are better. Get the fuck off your high horse man and stop being a hater. And I garee with cmoke (a FIRST) I think you get off on this shit.

Repeat: You could have told a funny joke, perhaps brushed me off with a snide comment; or you could have monologued and whined. -- You chose to monologue and whine. Not my fault.

If I'm "hating" when I make a dumbass comment and diss myself in the process, setting myself up for an easy attack...then what exactly are YOU doing by using that as an opportunity to try and call me out, and start dissing my music? I didn't diss this man's music one time. And here you are sitting here talking about my Mom and all this other immature, predictable shit.

Why the hell are you always asking me to make threads with you? Fuck you. I wouldn't make shit with your ass unless I was getting paid for it and even then I would second guess. Rapping to make spare money? Listen IF RAPPERS GET PAID TELL ME WHY ARE YOU BROKE? :dead:

You are NOT required to do a DAMN thing but meet the needs of your demographic.

Uh...like i just said, my music has made money and my music has made a profit. Me being broke (which i'm not, BTW, or I wouldn't have just bought a VS-880) doesn't have shit to do with shit.

Give me $10,000, and I'd have an album out in a few months and recoup in under a year. Give you $10,000, and it'd just disappear in your equipment matrix, and do nothing.

And you constantly show hate so what else is new? Let him do his thing and you stay concerned with what you do. What YOU should be concerned about is getting cohesive mixes, BETTER BEATS and better lyrics. Concentrate on that and leave others alone.

.

 

[EDJ]

^CUZZ,
DON'T START SUCCIN' ON YOUR DIK TOO QUIK NOW. I PROMISE YOU THAT YOUR LYRICAL CONTENT ISN'T AS DIVERSE AND INTRICATE AS MINE. PLUS WITTY, AND DEEP.

 

[HERESY]

Friend...I said he is doing a show with no-names. I feel i am qualified to speak on this, because I have been listening to Underground Southern music for several years now. What exactly don't you understand about this?

Who the hell died and made you qualified? So you have been listening to southern rap and? You don't know this mans budget, the scale of the show etc. The only thing you are qualified to do is hate and you do a GREAT job at that.

It would be like me saying I'm doing a show next week with Byrdie and Pete Miser. 99% of rap listeners in my own CITY are going to look at me like "Yeah...so?", let alone 99.999999999% of the Hip-Hop population OUTSIDE of it.

That is in YOUR area. In HIS area what you are saying is not applicable because his area is just starting to grow. The Seattle and portland areas have an ESTABLISHED market (bosko, cool nutz, d-sane, skunt, Nonstop.) If the people in his area cater to local hip hop artists and the emphasis is on rappers from HIS area and promoting the growth of HIS area it would make no sense to do this NOW.

OK and TX are right next to each other. Cali and WA are not. Try again.

It does not matter Cali and Washington artists network ALL the time. Being next to each other is not relevant.

Dude, you don't even make any sense. The beat sounds nothing at all futuristic, and you'd have to be a jackass or a heckler to believe that. It is clearly sampled from a 70's or 80's era song, if not earlier.

I don't give a damn if that corn pop shit was sampled from God himself. That song = GARBZILLA. Tell me ONE good thing about that beat. You can't because no good may be found in it. The piano sounds like elton john played it while high off sherm and your dick stuck up his ass. The drums do NOT crack and knock, and that faggoty horn sample and beat "drop" make NO sense. It does NOT create tension and release, please try again.

OK.

OK.

Uh.....I'll try to do this real slow for you: PAN-IC AT-TACKS....MAN IN I-RAQ

4 syllables...4 syllables; not only that, the 2nd 4 syllables is spread out, which makes it sound more like 4 syllables rhyming with 5 syllables. This is what you call an ADVANCED rhyme, and something only ADVANCED rappers are capable of. I am sorry that this went right over your head, as you were entirely focused on and dumbfounded by the words instead.

Later rhymes:
Switch-up-my-style....fishin-for-a-while...4 and 5.
Know-what-I-Said....Know-I'm-the-Best...4 and 4.
Silence-me....Ride-for-me?....3 and ~4.
Stay-for-my-family...grave-for-my-family...~7 and 6.

What you just listed is advanced GARBAGE! ANY PERSON WHO RAPS ABOUT HAVING PANIC ATTACKS AND NIGHTMARES NEEDS TO HAVE THEIR HEAD EXAMINED! THIS NIGGA IS AFRAID OF THE DARK AND SHIT!! LMAO! WHAT THE HELL IS LYRICAL ABOUT WHAT YOU POSTED? THE SHIT IS PREDICTABLE AND YOU USE SIMPLE ASS RHYME PATTERNS AND WORDS:

style/while
Silence-me/Ride-for-me
Stay-for-my-family/grave-for-my-family

LMAO!

BEAT = 0
MIX = -9,000,000
FLOW = 0
DELIVERY = 0
CONTENT = 0

YOU AND YOUR MUSIC CAREER = IN DEBT.

Champion, you need to understand that the same way nobody here understands how the fuck you can call yourself a super producer with your average-sounding beats

LMAO@Average sounding beats. At least I have been paid for them, and I least I have heard work I have done on KMEL. What has your garbage earned you? $0.00. CAPCOM USA didn't think my beats were average. :dead:

that I am one of the most lyrically superior artists on this entire website. I am not talking about content, or telling stories, or any of this shit; I am talking about actual Lyrical Mechanics. There is not a man on this site capable of matching me. The closest comparison is perhaps Mista Cane or Diggz Dime, but still not quite.

Your lyrical mechanics are WEAK. You don't chain ANY words together, you don't FLOW and you sound like a FAGGOT. You = Garbage, and if you had been humble and true to yourself I would simply leave that shit alone. And why the fuck are you always bringing someone else into your topics? Mista Cane and Diggz Dime have nothing to do with this. We are talking about YOU.

Friend, I am being serious here. That song was recorded on a Behringer B-1, which for us was a major upgrade that was paid for by 2 people.

Friend, I am being serious here. If two people had to piece up to purchase a mic that costs less than $100 bucks they should quit rapping. So a $97.99 mic was a "MAJOR UPGRADE" yet this man can't talk about the moves he is making? LMAO! You idiots could barely scrape up enough cash to pay for a CRAPPY mic. I bet you fools were cracking piggy banks, flippin over couches and pillows for spare change and standing on a corner with "WILL RAP FOR FOOD" signs. Stop.

Great. It's the old "I could record with a tin can and a package of chewing gum, and sound better than you!!" argument. Been there...done that. Different strokes for different stokes. My music has made me PROFIT, and that is all that matters. Can you say the same?

Yes I sure can say the same. And if you would ever like to play big bank take little bank or need a client list feel free to let me know.

If I'm "hating" when I make a dumbass comment and diss myself in the process, setting myself up for an easy attack...then what exactly are YOU doing by using that as an opportunity to try and call me out, and start dissing my music? I didn't diss this man's music one time. And here you are sitting here talking about my Mom and all this other immature, predictable shit.

I am exposing you for the fraud and chicken weakling that you really are. Look man I help out A LOT of people. I even helped YOU out, and I never want to crush the dreams of others, but what you did was foul. By you dissing his show and accomplishments you ARE dissing his music. And yes, I am talking about your mom because someone should have advised her to commit suicide when you were in her womb. Don't start throwing stones if you don't want to get hit with boulders because I will spare no one. Dead relatives, mothers, fathers, kids, aids infested cousins whatever. I play hardball and nothing is sacred once the game starts.

Uh...like i just said, my music has made money and my music has made a profit.

How much? Put a figure on it nigga and watch it be less than 10 grand. Get the fuck out of here.

Give me $10,000, and I'd have an album out in a few months and recoup in under a year.

LMAO! If anyone EVER gave you 10 g's they need to be executed. You don't know shit about recouping or making any loot man. You and your peeps have to save up quarters and pennies to buy cheap mics. Get the fuck outta here.

Give you $10,000, and it'd just disappear in your equipment matrix, and do nothing.

Please read previous sections of this post.

.

Damn right.

 

[FunK-3-FivE]

Tadou, your song is just like any other garbage made by some college hip hop geeks,... you're nothing special, set aside from all the other basement wannabe rappers you have no more talent. The second guy in your song is horrible period. And the beat would have gone better with someone reading a Robert Frost poem over it. As far as lyrics (the only thing your talent would attribute to) it's simplistic, like if Mike Jones started doing new age hip hop. It's really nothing you should be proud of. The fact that you boast and talk down on Xianex like you know something better makes it worse. In a game where 90% of it is promoting yourself and 10% is talent, Xianex has outdone you in both. If you rap for the shit of it, then good for you but if you honestly think you could make a career of it then you have lost your fucking mind.

And yes, I'm criticizing you because I dislike your egocentrism and point of view on basically everything. Otherwise I would have kept my opinion to myself, but you're just everyone's favorite person to hate.

 

[suspect#1]

i remember when that fool had his name banned

 

[m.w.merlino]

LOL...

he said advanced lyricist.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Someone just got murdered

 

[LISICKI]

^CUZZ, I PROMISE YOU THAT YOUR LYRICAL CONTENT ISN'T AS DIVERSE AND INTRICATE AS MINE. PLUS WITTY, AND DEEP.

I dont know about that EDJ i think lyrically he could eat you up!!!!



"yo I be wakin up havin panic attacks"- Dirty Shoues

NOw thats hot FYIIAAA!!!!

 

[D-Locc60]

I JUST WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO ALL MY HOMIES ON THE EAST SIDE.....!!!!

 

[EDJ]

LOL@COCALEAFS.

COME ON HERESY,
NOT LIKE THAT MAN. WHY'D YOU HAVE TO BREAK IT DOWN LIKE THAT?

 

[Dirty Shoez]

First, the hangers-on. The piranhas who sense weakness, and are just now opening up their mouth.

(Have i mentioned yet that you all ought to be praising me for getting this thread so many views?)

^CUZZ,
DON'T START SUCCIN' ON YOUR DIK TOO QUIK NOW. I PROMISE YOU THAT YOUR LYRICAL CONTENT ISN'T AS DIVERSE AND INTRICATE AS MINE. PLUS WITTY, AND DEEP.

And who will be the judge of that? Siccness? Let's take this to another forum that neither of us frequent. But you must know, they don't like that ALL CAPS SHIT. They will instantly believe you are simple and/or a 13 year old. This is real talk, and I have seen this before. They'll especially get on you for that "g" stuff.

Anywayz....What I am saying here is real talk. I would also go out on a limb and say, I'm probably one of the only people here to have formally studied 4 different languages. Thats not sucking my own dick--thats recognizing truth.

For instance....if you cant listen to Ya Boy, and hear an East Coast clone, i feel sorry for you, and you REALLY aren't qualified to speak on ANYTHING in regards to lyricism.

Tadou, your song is just like any other garbage made by some college hip hop geeks,... you're nothing special, set aside from all the other basement wannabe rappers you have no more talent. The second guy in your song is horrible period.

Sounds like a personal preference. Really, what am i supposed to say here? "Yes, I am better than them!! I have performed with ___ and ___ before! I recorded at ____ once!"

I am doing my music, and there are more people telling me to continue than to stop. I can't put it any clearer than that. You can live in your fantasy world where everyone is saying one thiing to my face and talking shit behind my back; and I will live in mine, where the people continue to support me and ask when the new product if coming.

As long as its making me a profit, I don't give a fuck what you non-buying customers think about my music. Bitch, make me rich. I'll pass out my own flyers, thank you very much.

And the beat would have gone better with someone reading a Robert Frost poem over it.

Weird. From Futuristic L-Ron shit, to a throwback that you would read a poem over.

And you wonder why I call you and Heresy out for saying literally ANYTHING to smear someone, whether or not it makes sense.

As far as lyrics (the only thing your talent would attribute to) it's simplistic, like if Mike Jones started doing new age hip hop. It's really nothing you should be proud of.

Then let us see some of your lyricism. Or perhaps, You can post up some lines you believe to be stellar lyricism. We will then compare syllables, and the ability to stay on-topic while using compound structures. Deal?

Well....I'm going to go out on a limb right now and say, No Deal. You aren't a rapper. You don't rap. You don't really even KNOW rap. You sing other peoples' songs and have no clue how the real thing works. I don't fault you for that though. Thats how your type operates.

You hate and hate and hate on upcoming artists, and call their lyrics simple and their beats garbage....and then the SECOND that people start to acknowledge and support them, you flip a bitch and suddenly start praising the lyrics and beats. Nevermind if the person comes out and TELLS YOU that they DID THOSE songs at the SAME TIME that they did the OTHER SONGS that you shitted on......you'll STILL make up some kind of excuse, like "Well, these ones are better." Why? Because you haven't the foggiest what you're talking about.

You type it or say it, and if it looks or sounds good...you don't worry about whether its truthful or not. Its artwork, after all....where are the "facts" to prove otherwise?

The fact that you boast and talk down on Xianex like you know something better makes it worse. In a game where 90% of it is promoting yourself and 10% is talent, Xianex has outdone you in both. If you rap for the shit of it, then good for you but if you honestly think you could make a career of it then you have lost your fucking mind.

I'm not comparing myself to him, sport. Other people are, because even if you TRY to compare him to me, you're instantly faced with the fact that he has several years on me...SEVERAL.

You might as well be saying, "Yeah, Lebron James is OK, but he ain't SHIT compared to Karl Malone, who's won X amount of MVPs! How many has Lebron won?!?!?! HUH!?!?!?!" -- You just sound kinda...well...fucking retarded.

And yes, I'm criticizing you because I dislike your egocentrism and point of view on basically everything. Otherwise I would have kept my opinion to myself, but you're just everyone's favorite person to hate.

Translation: "I am scared shitless of you, so i waited until i found an opening (i.e., you fully-engaged with someone else and not me) so that I could vent."

You're just like all the other critters, scurrying around these forums. Ain't about shit but yourself.

 

[L Mac-a-docious]

Later rhymes:
Switch-up-my-style....fishin-for-a-while...4 and 5.
Know-what-I-Said....Know-I'm-the-Best...4 and 4.
Silence-me....Ride-for-me?....3 and ~4.
Stay-for-my-family...grave-for-my-family...~7 and 6.

Not to mention the amount of staggering, overlaps, underlaps, etc. that I did. But then again, you have no clue what most of these things even mean.

LOL...WTF? You can pour syrup on shit and call it pancakes, but it's still shit. LOL...you're either way ahead of us, or way behind, but either way your timing is off, because it's canned however you spin it.

 

[FunK-3-FivE]

Tadou let me remind you that my job is to give artists constructive critism and decide what sounds good. Trust me I know the game inside and out, I know more about music trends, studio, sales, and sound techniques than you, that's what I went to school for. And yes I've worked with rappers and hip hop artists, some of them were shitty some of them were talented. 1/3 of my 10,000+ song library is gangsta rap. If you're honestly making profit to support yourself then props to you, have fun doing whatever the fuck you do I don't care. Btw the last paragraph of my post was just an explanation for why I was criticizing you and maybe why I was being a little hard on you.

 

[FunK-3-FivE]

"stellar lyricism"? haha as far as rap goes probably someone like Big L, i know a lot of unknown hip hop artists put much more into lyricism, unknowns with great lyrical talent are in abundance, but that's not exactly what sells. As far as gangsta rap from cali and the bay they are all about syllables and multis, but they're always repetitive and have low vocabulary... and I don't know why everyone is hyping up keak da sneak, he sucks. But we all know these mainstream rappers(swisha house, mike jones, T.I.) coming from the south are horrible lyricists, the lesser known southern rappers are alright.

The best lyricist I've ever heard? Conor Oberst... dubbed the Bob Dylan of our generation. But you would know very little about that shit ... you stick to repetitive beats, syllables, and rhyming words..... to you, music means little else. You don't know notes, you can't sing, you can't distinguish a C# from A Minor, stop trying to make nursery rhymes sound like rocket science, the only musical terms you know are kick, snare, hi hat, keyboard, microphone, syllable and rhyme,... you my friend, do not understand the broad art of sound. Your art is poetry not sound.

 

[DubbC415]

@ Dirty Shoez


point blank period, u just came out and hated on dood. u found a way to weasel urself into this thing, and it wasnt even bragging...XianeX made a thread directed at heresy thanking him for helping, something real HUMBLING, that maybe you should look into.


Two things that are of concern in this thread:

You're one of those people who measure their acheivments from what OTHER PEOPLE THINK ABOUT THEM. wow, 4 languages! did u study those cuz u wanted to feel good and proud about urself? or that u could bring it up in every post and thread on here, to try and make people suck ur dick? How many books have u read? a million? wow...ur amazing. Do shit for YOURSELF homie, not so u can hype up your own ego.

Also, honestly...where do u come off dissing people that dont even direct shit at you? i mean, im not just talking about XianeX, but i mean everyone...guess we're all just little "Critters" who scurry around on the boards. but in the internet world, and perhaps in the real world (if u dont use them), ur 4 LANGUAGES dont mean SHIT. we're all equal on here, until a certain extent. u must have Napoleon complex or something.

 

[WHITE DEVIL]

I have very dope flows as well which I will give analysis of.

A-B-C, 1-2-3 - Here you have what I like to call a "staggered quantitative regress", meaning that the alphabetical value of the letters gives way to the eventual numerical value of the numbers, obviously descending from nonabstraction to symbolism.

Walk-down-the-street .... Some-thing-to-eat - Note the sentence structure plays; imperative sentence in the first phrase, and a sentence fragment in the second, later iteration of the storytelling theme. This style of expository existentialism in abandoning typical grammar and adopting belletristic interpretations of necessary phrasing was first intorduced into professional rap music by Simplistic C from Maryland, you can see an example in his song "Song 1" "Went to my town ... hangin around." I think I employ it to good effect.

"be-cause-I-know ... bitch-is-a-ho" In this selection I use lowercase letters and metaphors to underscore the ghetto roots which I am perpetually alluding to with my use of what Prof. Al Lieberwitz of Harvard calls "ghetto-ishness" in his PhD dissertation. Also note that the singular thematic focus - very clear intent and informational value.

"buy-a-soda ... im thir-sty" note my rejection of typical 1,2 rhyme patterns commonly employed by prominent "street wordsmiths" (as I like to call the rap underculture I am taking a part of) for a free-ranging, lyrically atonal chanteuse.

In fact my methods are far more advanced than yours Big T.

P.S. "Kazahkstan" is pronounced 'KAH - zahk - stahn'

 

[Dirty Shoez]

And now, Ladies and Gentlemen, we resume play.

When we last left you, Heresy continued to be mad at the world while argued that Oklahoma Rap has nothing to do with Texas Rap, that 4 and 5 syllable rhymes only count on the last word, and various other untenable stances.

We join the conversation already in progress.

Who the hell died and made you qualified? So you have been listening to southern rap and? You don't know this mans budget, the scale of the show etc. The only thing you are qualified to do is hate and you do a GREAT job at that.

I repeat: "the biggest hip hop show/party in Tulsa EVER."

I don't know the scale of the show? The man JUST SAID the scale of the show in the OPENING POST. And now you're going to grill me about it? It's laughable. Learn how to read.

That is in YOUR area. In HIS area what you are saying is not applicable because his area is just starting to grow. The Seattle and portland areas have an ESTABLISHED market (bosko, cool nutz, d-sane, skunt, Nonstop.) If the people in his area cater to local hip hop artists and the emphasis is on rappers from HIS area and promoting the growth of HIS area it would make no sense to do this NOW.

Friend, there are plenty of names equivalent to the size of D-Sane or Nonstop in the OK area, and some of them are in this line-up. Don't bother trying to act like there isn't and they aren't.

The point was that, I can almost GUARANTEE that there have been bigger shows in Tulsa. Maybe this man had a bad choice of words; I don't know. But "the biggest hip hop show/party in Tulsa EVER.", combined with the fact that OK has no huge names, only intermediate.....well, friend, it leads me to believe, 1) there HAVE BEEN bigger shows, and 2) those bigger shows included TEXAS acts.

That you still are having issues understanding this...not my fault. Maybe you ought to take this man to task for saying "the biggest hip hop show/party in Tulsa EVER", instead of "the biggest hip hop show/party in Tulsa EVER, not featuring Texas acts".

Sounds like a personal problem.

It does not matter Cali and Washington artists network ALL the time. Being next to each other is not relevant.

It is beyond relevant. I am talking about OK and TX being joined at the hip (because they literally ARE joined at the hip), and you are bringing up Cali and WA who are separated by hundreds of miles.

Context, sir. This is about CONTEXT: "What you are saying is basically the same as 'seattle artists NEED california artists because cali artist outsell them.'"

I don't give a damn if that corn pop shit was sampled from God himself. That song = GARBZILLA. Tell me ONE good thing about that beat. You can't because no good may be found in it. The piano sounds like elton john played it while high off sherm and your dick stuck up his ass. The drums do NOT crack and knock, and that faggoty horn sample and beat "drop" make NO sense. It does NOT create tension and release, please try again.

The track is what it is. If you want to sit here and act like it was, 1) 100% complete, 2) completely mixed/mastered, 3) an album track, 4) the lead single, and 5) on an album I had been running around the entire Siccness promoting, proclaiming that I was about to change the rap game..........you might have a point.

Seeing as though it was some unfinished track i uploaded because I didn't have anything else at hand..........Don't care.

If the people had a problem with the beats, they wouldn't have bought all the shit we put up for sale and our debut album would not be out of print right now. Bottom line.

OK.

Precisely.

What you just listed is advanced GARBAGE! ANY PERSON WHO RAPS ABOUT HAVING PANIC ATTACKS AND NIGHTMARES NEEDS TO HAVE THEIR HEAD EXAMINED! THIS NIGGA IS AFRAID OF THE DARK AND SHIT!! LMAO!

This is a recurring thought among great people and great artists. Pac made an entire career out of it. BIG spoke about it in one of the last interviews before his death: waking up, thinking people are coming after him. Malcolm X spoke of it many times. You sitting here acting like this isn't a common theme in Hip-Hop or the Black Community, trying to single me out as the only one to ever think it.....just plain pathetic.

You'd make fun of me for making a song about smoking weed or wearing white t-shirts if you think you could get some traction. You'll say literally ANYTHING whether it makes sense or not.

WHAT THE HELL IS LYRICAL ABOUT WHAT YOU POSTED? THE SHIT IS PREDICTABLE AND YOU USE SIMPLE ASS RHYME PATTERNS AND WORDS:

style/while
Silence-me/Ride-for-me
Stay-for-my-family/grave-for-my-family

LMAO!

You really don'ty know how to count, do you?

SWITCH..UP..MY..STYLE/FISH..ING..FOR..A..WHILE

FIVE syllables...rhyming with FOUR syllables. This is an ADVANCED USAGE. Rappers like The Game DO NOT use them, because The Game raps exactly like Jadakiss. Rappers like Cam'Ron, Juelz Santana, 151, however, DO use them, because they UNDERSTAND what they mean and how to use them.

You are a faggy producer who could never learn how to rap, so I could see why you are so angry. If you ever did become a rapper, it'd be something you'd have to force your way into; not something other people would encourage you to do.

BEAT = 0
MIX = -9,000,000
FLOW = 0
DELIVERY = 0
CONTENT = 0

YOU AND YOUR MUSIC CAREER = IN DEBT.

Not really. I have never paid money for a beat or studio time in my lifetime. How you could say my career is in "debt" is beyond me.

Yet more proof, you'll say...LITERALLY ANYTHING...whether it makes sense or not.

LMAO@Average sounding beats. At least I have been paid for them, and I least I have heard work I have done on KMEL. What has your garbage earned you? $0.00. CAPCOM USA didn't think my beats were average. :dead:

So you're making music for Mega Man and Resident Evil, and you think you have the right to judge hip-hop music? Lmao.

By the way, what age are you? You seem too chicken shit to list that in your profile. We both know you're late 20's, so you trying to diss someone in their early 20's for lack of experience is just plain funny.

You remind me of this one comic. He said he made a bunch of 14 year old friends, so that any time they ran up to him and said "Hey look! Straight A's!" he could look at them and say "So what...I can DRIVE!" and then call them losers. -- Thats basically what you're doing right now. In fact....its EXACTLY what you're doing right now.

Nothing about you is impressive when compared to all the other late 20's/early 30's aged producers here. The ONLY way you can make some ground is by comparing yourself to people who are still in college or in their teens or otherwise. Its pathetic when you really think about it.

Your lyrical mechanics are WEAK. You don't chain ANY words together, you don't FLOW and you sound like a FAGGOT. You = Garbage, and if you had been humble and true to yourself I would simply leave that shit alone. And why the fuck are you always bringing someone else into your topics? Mista Cane and Diggz Dime have nothing to do with this. We are talking about YOU.

Friend, i am talking about people that rhyme like me. Again, are you some kind of retard?

I could take a Diggz Dime rhyme, VERBATIM, and say it was my own, and you would sit there with a shit-eating grin on your face and proclaim that I "don't chain ANY words together" --- Yet if this man Diggz came in here of his own accord and pasted the EXACT rhyme.....seeing as though you don't have personal grudges against this man, you would readily acknowledge that he in fact DOES chain words together.

This is the way you operate: like a slimy, hateful prick that knows plenty about rap lyrics, but will sit here and act stupid if he thinks he can use his stupid-act to diss and smear other people. Its shameful that you are so afraid to be honest.

 

[Dirty Shoez]

Friend, I am being serious here. If two people had to piece up to purchase a mic that costs less than $100 bucks they should quit rapping.

......Last i checked, I already covered this.

"you're comparing it to people who, instead of wasting money on beer or hookers, recorded songs on $200 computers and $50 used speakers from, literally, 1989."

You are sitting here saying I'm "broke" and that my music isn't making any money, and I am TELLING YOU that we are not spending very much money on it. It has nothing to do with needing to "quit rapping". It has everything to do with STILL MAKING MONEY AND NOT *NEEDING* TO USE $500 MICS AND $1100 CONSOLES!

Talk about being brain-dead.....

So a $97.99 mic was a "MAJOR UPGRADE" yet this man can't talk about the moves he is making? LMAO!

One, see below. Two, there is a difference between making moves, and proclaiming the next show you are about to do as the biggest one in the history of Tulsa.

You idiots could barely scrape up enough cash to pay for a CRAPPY mic. I bet you fools were cracking piggy banks, flippin over couches and pillows for spare change and standing on a corner with "WILL RAP FOR FOOD" signs. Stop.

"That song was recorded on a Behringer B-1, which for us was a major upgrade that was paid for by 2 people."

Nope...don't see anything about having trouble paying for it. Any one of us could have paid cash (and there were 8 or so regulars, plus part-timers), and gotten it over with, or even gotten a better mic, or 5 better mics. But the point was....we didn't really need any other mic. We were already making noise, because our music was speaking for itself.

Once again...a foreign concept to you, because people like you have to BUY your fans by spending tens of thousands on equipment, or features, or shiny costumes, or other bullshit. You don't know anything ABOUT the essence of this shit.

Yes I sure can say the same. And if you would ever like to play big bank take little bank or need a client list feel free to let me know.

I don't fuck with people like you. I fuck with people that are about a movement and working together, not bullying and making a quick buck.

I am exposing you for the fraud and chicken weakling that you really are. Look man I help out A LOT of people. I even helped YOU out, and I never want to crush the dreams of others, but what you did was foul. By you dissing his show and accomplishments you ARE dissing his music. And yes, I am talking about your mom because someone should have advised her to commit suicide when you were in her womb. Don't start throwing stones if you don't want to get hit with boulders because I will spare no one. Dead relatives, mothers, fathers, kids, aids infested cousins whatever. I play hardball and nothing is sacred once the game starts.

First of all, you can diss my mom all you want, because she is the one who brought my family from welfare to college to a steady job. You're the only one who's going to sound like a fucking retard for that, especially given the current lack of education and steady jobs in the Black Community.

Second...I could really give a fuck less if you "helped" me. I help people every single day, whether I like them or not. But if you want to talk about some personal shit, I am going to shit all over you, like I am doing right now. You are a hateful pathetic little man who is not doing 1/10th of what he should be doing. You ain't about shit, and it shows.

You are jealous because I have more potential than you, and have the ability to change the world and the way it operates, while you can only sit back and talk about how much cash Capcom or Rapper X paid you for a beat. You are frustrated that people support my music but you don't like it, so you no doubt esteem them idiots and believe you are above them. You are mad at a lot of things here, buddy. And none of them are my fault as much as they are your own for having such a shitty, abusive childhood that makes you never content with what you have, and never happy unless you are shitting all over someone else's accomplishments.

How much? Put a figure on it nigga and watch it be less than 10 grand. Get the fuck out of here.

Friend....are you STILL not understanding this whole concept of AGE? See, friend, when you've been around longer than other people, chances are, you've: 1) spent more money, 2) accomplished more, etc etc. If you have done these things, it's not something to brag about; its something to BREATHE A SIGH OF RELIEF about, because if you haven't, then you're most likely a LOSER.

I have made a profit, and that is all that matters, or needs to matter. I've bought equipment, done shows, done albums, and made my money back and then some. Whether i spent 1,000 or 1,000,000 makes no nevermind. I am progressing the way smart people do things. You progress by spending 10's of thousands up front and crossing your fingers for a return. Not my fault you either have no concept of recouping, or are again acting like a fucking retard and ignoring your knowledge and playing on the ignorance of others just so you can score a few points.

LMAO! If anyone EVER gave you 10 g's they need to be executed. You don't know shit about recouping or making any loot man. You and your peeps have to save up quarters and pennies to buy cheap mics. Get the fuck outta here.

Execution...Suicide...and you would deny that you're an unhappy scrappy?

`If it ain't broke, don't fix it'. You need to learn and understand what this phrase means. People like you are the reason rappers get in WAY THE FUCK over their heads, throwing around money listening to idiots like you, and then when shit really DOES hit the fan, they get fucked.

Again, I'm in this for the long term. You're in it for a quick buck. Big difference.

Please read previous sections of this post.

Ditto.

Damn right.

Of course.




And what the fuck man? People need to learn how to shut the fuck up. If this man's case is so concrete, why such a rush to pile on and make sure I don't come back? Looks like fear to me.