KONY 2012

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May 9, 2002
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#81
BUT WHY THE U.S. GOTTA BE THE MOTHERFUCKERS TOO ALWAYYYS HAVE TO CLEAN UP SHIT EVERYWHERE???

FUCKING EUROPE IS CLOSER...WE GOT SHIT CLOSER TO HOME THATS JUST AS BAD...OR WORSE.

AND ALL THEM MILLIONAIRES AREN'T EVEN DOING THEIR FELLOW COUNTRYMEN ANY JUSTICE...

IN ORDER FOR THIS COUNTRY TO REBOUND IT HAS TO FALL BACK AND REGROUP...ALL THESE OTHER COUNTRIES AINT GONNA HELP US IN OUR TIME OF NEED.
Unfortunately, its a myth that we "clean shit up". We go where the money/natural resources are...and we either get in the middle of conflict, or flat out START it to seize control. You think the US really gave a flying fuck about poor little Kuwait in 1991? FUCK NO. There was a REASON we stuck our noses in there.
 

WXS STOMP3R

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Feb 27, 2006
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#82
Unfortunately, its a myth that we "clean shit up". We go where the money/natural resources are...and we either get in the middle of conflict, or flat out START it to seize control. You think the US really gave a flying fuck about poor little Kuwait in 1991? FUCK NO. There was a REASON we stuck our noses in there.
THATS VERY MUCH THE TRUTH...THIS COUNTRY DONT GET INVOLVED UNLESS THEIR'S SOMETHIING OF INTEREST...

BUT THAT'S OLD NEWS... THIS COUNTRY WENT FROM BEING A MODEL OF HUMANITARISM, TO BEING THE OWNERS OF GUANTANAMO BAY...

THE FACADE IS GONE...BETTER TO GET OUR SHIT TOGETHER...SO MUCH INJUSTICE HERE...

IF ANYTHING PLAY A SECONDARY ROLE...INSTEAD OF ALWAYS BEING THE CAPTAINS
 

Arson

Long live the KING!!!!
May 7, 2002
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#83
People know that he will never be "arrested" right, and to get rid of him , they will probley have to kill a bunch of the kids he has protecting him?
 

HIM

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Sep 27, 2002
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THATS VERY MUCH THE TRUTH...THIS COUNTRY DONT GET INVOLVED UNLESS THEIR'S SOMETHIING OF INTEREST...

BUT THAT'S OLD NEWS... THIS COUNTRY WENT FROM BEING A MODEL OF HUMANITARISM, TO BEING THE OWNERS OF GUANTANAMO BAY...

THE FACADE IS GONE...BETTER TO GET OUR SHIT TOGETHER...SO MUCH INJUSTICE HERE...

IF ANYTHING PLAY A SECONDARY ROLE...INSTEAD OF ALWAYS BEING THE CAPTAINS
Civil Rights movement was just 40 years ago... This country has never been a good example of humanitarianism...
 

WXS STOMP3R

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Feb 27, 2006
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Civil Rights movement was just 40 years ago... This country has never been a good example of humanitarianism...
THAT'S RIGHT... NOT TOO MENTION HOW THE NATIVES GOT DONE... OR MEXICANS...OR ANY OTHER GROUPS

THANKS FOR HELPING ME MAKE MY POINT BETTER THAN I COULD HAVE...
 

Legman

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i just seen that documentary earlier, it was good

the kids talkin about dying now rather then living on earth was sad
 
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Visible Children
We got trouble.

For those asking what you can do to help, please link to visiblechildren.tumblr.com wherever you see KONY 2012 posts. And tweet a link to this page to famous people on Twitter who are talking about KONY 2012!

I do not doubt for a second that those involved in KONY 2012 have great intentions, nor do I doubt for a second that Joseph Kony is a very evil man. But despite this, I’m strongly opposed to the KONY 2012 campaign.

KONY 2012 is the product of a group called Invisible Children, a controversial activist group and not-for-profit. They’ve released 11 films, most with an accompanying bracelet colour (KONY 2012 is fittingly red), all of which focus on Joseph Kony. When we buy merch from them, when we link to their video, when we put up posters linking to their website, we support the organization. I don’t think that’s a good thing, and I’m not alone.

Invisible Children has been condemned time and time again. As a registered not-for-profit, its finances are public. Last year, the organization spent $8,676,614. Only 32% went to direct services (page 6), with much of the rest going to staff salaries, travel and transport, and film production. This is far from ideal, and Charity Navigator rates their accountability 2/4 stars because they haven’t had their finances externally audited. But it goes way deeper than that.

The group is in favour of direct military intervention, and their money supports the Ugandan government’s army and various other military forces. Here’s a photo of the founders of Invisible Children posing with weapons and personnel of the Sudan People’s Liberation Army. Both the Ugandan army and Sudan People’s Liberation Army are riddled with accusations of rape and looting, but Invisible Children defends them, arguing that the Ugandan army is “better equipped than that of any of the other affected countries”, although Kony is no longer active in Uganda and hasn’t been since 2006 by their own admission. These books each refer to the rape and sexual assault that are perennial issues with the UPDF, the military group Invisible Children is defending.

Still, the bulk of Invisible Children’s spending isn’t on supporting African militias, but on awareness and filmmaking. Which can be great, except that Foreign Affairs has claimed that Invisible Children (among others) “manipulates facts for strategic purposes, exaggerating the scale of LRA abductions and murders and emphasizing the LRA’s use of innocent children as soldiers, and portraying Kony — a brutal man, to be sure — as uniquely awful, a Kurtz-like embodiment of evil.” He’s certainly evil, but exaggeration and manipulation to capture the public eye is unproductive, unprofessional and dishonest.

As Chris Blattman, a political scientist at Yale, writes on the topic of IC’s programming, “There’s also something inherently misleading, naive, maybe even dangerous, about the idea of rescuing children or saving of Africa. […] It hints uncomfortably of the White Man’s Burden. Worse, sometimes it does more than hint. The savior attitude is pervasive in advocacy, and it inevitably shapes programming. Usually misconceived programming.”

Still, Kony’s a bad guy, and he’s been around a while. Which is why the US has been involved in stopping him for years. U.S. Africa Command (AFRICOM) has sent multiple missions to capture or kill Kony over the years. And they’ve failed time and time again, each provoking a ferocious response and increased retaliative slaughter. The issue with taking out a man who uses a child army is that his bodyguards are children. Any effort to capture or kill him will almost certainly result in many children’s deaths, an impact that needs to be minimized as much as possible. Each attempt brings more retaliation. And yet Invisible Children supports military intervention. Kony has been involved in peace talks in the past, which have fallen through. But Invisible Children is now focusing on military intervention.

Military intervention may or may not be the right idea, but people supporting KONY 2012 probably don’t realize they’re supporting the Ugandan military who are themselves raping and looting away. If people know this and still support Invisible Children because they feel it’s the best solution based on their knowledge and research, I have no issue with that. But I don’t think most people are in that position, and that’s a problem.

Is awareness good? Yes. But these problems are highly complex, not one-dimensional and, frankly, aren’t of the nature that can be solved by postering, film-making and changing your Facebook profile picture, as hard as that is to swallow. Giving your money and public support to Invisible Children so they can spend it on supporting ill-advised violent intervention and movie #12 isn’t helping. Do I have a better answer? No, I don’t, but that doesn’t mean that you should support KONY 2012 just because it’s something. Something isn’t always better than nothing. Sometimes it’s worse.

If you want to write to your Member of Parliament or your Senator or the President or the Prime Minister, by all means, go ahead. If you want to post about Joseph Kony’s crimes on Facebook, go ahead. But let’s keep it about Joseph Kony, not KONY 2012.
http://visiblechildren.tumblr.com.nyud.net/