Floyd Mayweather vs Manny Pacquiao negotiation timeline

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Team pacman r the ones with all the excuses over a simple random blood and urine test. What do u got to hide, u the peoples champ rite lofl!!!!
 
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Cotto or Margarito being called the best is just too funny. Sure Mayweather ducked two of the most hittable overrated fighters in boxing. lol. Mayweather ducked Manny so much that he agreed to all of Manny's terms and guess what Manny didn't want to fight. Stop with all the Mayweather is ducking BS it's been proving wrong over and over again.
 
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^^Cotto & Margarito were at the top of the 147 pound division when floyd "retired." It's easy now to say in hindsight that this guy or that guy would have been beat, but at the time when both guys were at the very top of their games that's the fight people wanted to see, more than anything else. Like I said I had no problem with Floyd taking money fights in Ricky Hatton, but he left when the division had been the best/most competitive in years, maybe even since the Leonard/Hearns/Duran/Benitez era.
 
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Maragrito got exposed by Paul Williams as nothing but hype, and Paul beat him with the handwraps. Cotto didn't want to fight Mayweather after he saw that Gatti beating, I guess you forgot when Cotto said he wasn't ready for Floyd. Cotto and Margarito was more Top Rank hype then real threats. Undefeated 140 champion Hatton and 154lb champion ODLH over them two anyday. Oh and by the way ODLH and Hatton where both on the top 10 P4P list when Mayweather beat them.
 
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^^you are stupid as fuck if you honestly believe Ricky Hatton was more of a challenge then a prime Margarito & undefeated Cotto. fucking hell, man
I'm stupid because I don't think highly of wack ass handwrap Margarito or when I'm hurt back peddling Cotto. I just don't see what would be so much of a challenge for Mayweather against two slow punching, flat-footed, no defense having fighters. I just don't see them two as threats. You have said it yourself that without a jab you're not going to beat Mayweather. So are you telling me Cotto or Maragrito's jab was going to give Floyd problems?? You know the answer to that. Plus both fighters are Top Ranks so really??
 
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Mayweather beat Judah the IBF and IBO 147lb champion, and then he beat Baldomir for the WBA and WBC 147lb belts. ODLH the 154 champion, Hatton the 140 champion, Marquez the 135 champion, and then Mosley the 147 WBA champion.
 
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I'm stupid because I don't think highly of wack ass handwrap Margarito or when I'm hurt back peddling Cotto. I just don't see what would be so much of a challenge for Mayweather against two slow punching, flat-footed, no defense having fighters. I just don't see them two as threats. You have said it yourself that without a jab you're not going to beat Mayweather. So are you telling me Cotto or Maragrito's jab was going to give Floyd problems?? You know the answer to that. Plus both fighters are Top Ranks so really??
In 2007 does Ricky Hatton beat undefeated Miguel Cotto or Margarito? Obviously he gets crushed by both.

You don't have respect for "no defensive having" fighters and yet hold Ricky Hatton in a higher regard who's only defense is block punches with his face. Genius.

I knew there was a reason you're considered one of the biggest idiots in this forum.
 

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Thank god Floyd didn't fight Margarito, Margarito is a cheater and shouldn't be allowed to box as a professional prize fighter anymore. He should be fighting in Mexico, not the U.S.A.

There's nobody in this era of boxing that could beat Floyd, so I don't know why Cotto and Margarito are even being mentioned. I think 206 is mentioning them because Manny beat them.

Shane was at the top of the WW division when Floyd beat him.

Did Manny beat any top WW? I'm talking number 1? Not 3 or 4....

Why didn't Manny fight the winner of Ortiz vs Berto since Manny is all that?

He chose to fight someone that

A) he already beat.
B) that's smaller than his is.
C) that's older than he is.

So it would be hypocritical of someone to critic Floyd.
 
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Thank god Floyd didn't fight Margarito, Margarito is a cheater and shouldn't be allowed to box as a professional prize fighter anymore. He should be fighting in Mexico, not the U.S.A.

There's nobody in this era of boxing that could beat Floyd, so I don't know why Cotto and Margarito are even being mentioned. I think 206 is mentioning them because Manny beat them.

Shane was at the top of the WW division when Floyd beat him.

Did Manny beat any top WW? I'm talking number 1? Not 3 or 4....

Why didn't Manny fight the winner of Ortiz vs Berto since Manny is all that?

He chose to fight someone that

A) he already beat.
B) that's smaller than his is.
C) that's older than he is.

So it would be hypocritical of someone to critic Floyd.
LOL. Tony you just telling it like it is. Like Cotto or Maragrito were all time greats. SMH..
 

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Just as I thought, Arum wants WADA, which is the World anti doping agency.


Arum: We Would Use WADA For Mayweather-Pacquiao


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“We don’t accept the USADA handling it,” Arum told me. “We do accept the prestigious, well-respected WADA. On those terms, Pacquiao will submit to whatever (blood) testing is required so we can make the big fight.”

Makes sense to me. WADA is the world body and both Mayweather and Pacquiao have multiple world championship histories.

It’s no insult to USADA, really, with American Mayweather fighting Filipino Pacquiao. It’s not something absurd and outlandish such as Arum proposing a drug testing agency from Pacman’s homeland handle the testing.

I’ve no doubt the Nevada commission would permit Mayweather and Pacquiao to make a contract specifying, chapter and verse, what the required testing would be, when it could take place, etc.

Nevada badly wants and sorely needs the revenue such a boxing bonanza brings to Las Vegas' tourist service economy. I see no NSAC impediment especially where Tygart was like a bull in a china shop in his decidedly negative testimony before the state board on June 9, 2010. Tygart didn't ruffle Nevada feathers, he torched them.

If Mayweather really wants to fight Pacman, then he will agree to WADA and Tygart will also support this, if only to advance Tygart’s crusade.

http://www.boxingscene.com/arum-we-use-wada-mayweather-pacquiao--41407
USADA Responds,

"We certainly do not have a bias against any athlete," Skinner said. "We do not have a bias (favoring) one athlete over another. All athletes are presumed to be clean until such time as they are proven otherwise.

"But, when it comes to drug testing, USADA, which is a signatory to WADA rules, regulations and procedures, is the gold standard for sports in the United States. We completely adhere to all the international standards as promulgated by WADA."

She said that perhaps Arum has a misperception of how WADA operates, explaining "does not do any actual testing, they do not have the infrastructure to do that. You take (world soccer body) FIFA, the Swimming Federation and others...they are all signatories to WADA. What WADA does is contract out (the testing) to recognized doping control agencies in the different countries."

No other organization in the US does the type of gold standard testing that that we do. Personally, at least, I've never heard of any third party organization that performs the WADA approved standards to the same degree that we do," Skinner said.

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Wow, Arum doesn't even know what he's talking about. The WADA doesn't even test! They set rules and regulations but they don't actually test, themselves.
 
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So it looks like WADA would be useless at this point...

Who else is tired of these games from Team Pacquiao?
Tony the excuses will never stop coming. But Top Rank is trying to make the fight with Mayweather. LOL. Excuses and more excuses to not make the fight.
 

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Now that Mayweather's vacation has ended and he's got that urge back.... Mayweather has already said, "Manny yes, you're next"

Then Bob Arum counters with this BS about the USADA, who probably did the testing for Shane vs Floyd fight and now is probably going to do the testing for the Victor vs Floyd fight too....

So it looks like the WADA is going to use the USADA to do the testing, lol

I wonder if this is coming from Pacquiao himself who hides behind his promoter.