floyd didn't announce he was going on vacation first and he didn't say he wasn't going to fight for 16 months.
Like I said from this start, this thread is a circle jerk for floyd fans to make themselves feel better. If floyd wanted the fight he had that chance. You act like not fighting for 16 months is perfectly normal, especially when you got $50 million in front of your face and your nickname is "Money."
And yeah, take fighthype as gospel, it's not biased at all
and yes fighthype is biased. They leave out shit like this:
Ross Greenburg:
Before the timeline ran out:
"I can't talk about it," Greenburg told Newsday. "I'm right in the middle of shutting everyone down. We have to do it quietly. This cannot get into the papers. If it gets in the papers, all of a sudden, it takes on a life of its own like it did in December and January, and it becomes very difficult to make the fight. We all kind of shook hands and said, 'Let's keep quiet and do it out of the press and get it done.'
"We're going to try to make it happen. That's all I can say."
-Ross Greenburg, HBO Sports President
June 4, 2010 Newsday.com
After Negotiations:
"Both times, the fight was very close to being made. And, the second time around, you know, all that I can say is that you would have to ask Floyd Mayweather why the fight wasn't made. To this day, I really don't know why Floyd decided that he didn't want the fight any more in the fall.
To this day, I don't know why he wanted to take some more time off. Only Floyd has that answer. I certainly don't have that answer. But, you know, it was very close.It was so, so, close. I think that it was so close that I don't think that it's going to take much to make the fight the third time around."
And then, of course, they leave out Richard Schaefer's excuse as to why the fight isn't happening:
“People should be smart enough to realize that he’s in the middle of legal proceedings. His focus and energy is on that, clearing his name, not on making a fight. That’s just common sense," Schaefer said.
“Anything else would be disrespectful to a judge or the legal system. … He could say, OK, let’s fight Pacquiao in May or whenever and make a deal. How would a judge feel about that? You just don’t do that.”
Fighting Manny with trials scheduled would be disrespectful to a judge and the legal system but taking on Ortiz with 4 cases pending AND skipping out on court-mandated depositions is perfectly respectful. LOL.
And they leave out Mayweather Sr's excuse as to why the fight didn't happen:
Instead, Mayweather Sr. suggested it was his son’s fear of Uncle Sam that’s preventing the biggest fight in boxing from taking place this year. “Make a million dollars in one year and see what Uncle Sam gonna do to you. So that’s what I’m talking about. Make $100 million in one year and see what Uncle Sam gonna do,” he would tell FightHype’s own Percy Crawford. “It would be like he ain’t never fought Shane. I’m telling you the real deal of how it is. That is the only reason they didn’t make the fight.”
But hey, Fighthype isn't biased....
And I like how Schaefer said Oscar was misquoted when he said the pac-floyd fight was almost done. How the fuck can you can you be misquoted on live TV?
Michael Koncz is about as credible as Leonard Ellerbe, both guys are morons. Koncz is the weakest link in pac's crew, I honestly have no idea what he does other than piss everyone off and fuck things up like endorsement deals, etc. (technically I think he's Pac's "canadian adviser"). He even tried to get rid of Freddie Roach and have Buboy take his place! He seems to not know what's going on half the time and contradict bob arum, pac, roach, ariza, etc. all the time. smh @ that leach
If Fighthype is bias then what do you call the general media? Because if I didn't post the third party proof that Mayweather agreed to fight Manny on March 2010 and Manny backed out of the fight. Hell even with the facts most people on here still think Mayweather backed out. I posted proof that Manny hasn't agreed to random testing, but a lot of people still believe he has agreed already.. The media is bias in their reporting of Mayweather and Fighthype is evening the playing field. I'm just sick of Manny fans acting like dude didn't walk away from the fight and to this day has not agreed to random testing. It's a double standard when talking about Mayweather and Manny in the eyes of the media. Manny can do no wrong and Mayweather is too black.
If Fighthype is bias then what do you call the general media? Because if I didn't post the third party proof that Mayweather agreed to fight Manny on March 2010 and Manny backed out of the fight. Hell even with the facts most people on here still think Mayweather backed out. I posted proof that Manny hasn't agreed to random testing, but a lot of people still believe he has agreed already.. The media is bias in their reporting of Mayweather and Fighthype is evening the playing field. I'm just sick of Manny fans acting like dude didn't walk away from the fight and to this day has not agreed to random testing. It's a double standard when talking about Mayweather and Manny in the eyes of the media. Manny can do no wrong and Mayweather is too black.
Mainstream media may have a slant towards Floyd. However,I've seen a lot of media outlets give him the room to speak his peace, etc before they give reports so I've yet to see what you're saying. Are there some sites/people who have an agenda or are bias? Yes, but I wouldn't say all of the general/mainstream media is like this.
The info that 206 posted. And yes, they are bias, you can tell by some of the words they used that they are bias. But like I said before, if the timeline and info are accurate, their are some very questionable things by Pac and his team. I, however, don't think those questionable antics have to do with PED's but have more to do with weight and the very real possibility that Pac can't beat Floyd.
I think the timeline is pretty accurate. I've pretty much concluded that Pac doesn't want to take the test. Which Floyd stated after the 1st negotiations failed.
You're still not addressing the stuff I posted. U can say pac 'walked away ' the first time cuz he wasn't happy about the cutoff date but its clear to me they tried and tried the second time and Floyd wasn't interested. Call it even then. Lets see what happens after the Ortiz and Marquez fights.
As I've stated before, I think Pac should go ahead and take the test, but as a man, it's hard to agree with someone and their conditions if they are flaunting shit in your face, talking bad about you and accusing you of things you aren't doing. So on one hand I can see them saying fuck you Floyd, and on the other hand I see the damage not taking the test can do. I also see where Floyd was wrong when he didn't come back to the table and have already stated that some of his antics were not cool.
However, I do believe that both men are going to fight in 2012.
lol at floyd not being interested the 2nd time he took time to make a video and talk shit about pacman then his terms got agreed to and he goes on vacation then he talks some more shit after the whole i dont wanna disrespect the courts so im not gonna fight yet then he says he is fightin ortiz
As I've stated before, I think Pac should go ahead and take the test, but as a man, it's hard to agree with someone and their conditions if they are flaunting shit in your face, talking bad about you and accusing you of things you aren't doing. So on one hand I can see them saying fuck you Floyd, and on the other hand I see the damage not taking the test can do. I also see where Floyd was wrong when he didn't come back to the table and have already stated that some of his antics were not cool.
However, I do believe that both men are going to fight in 2012.
How do you feel about the state of Nevada implementing a new drug policy effective at the end of the month which includes random YEAR ROUND drug tests? This is what pac wanted something that is enforced by the commission not a single fighter. Do you feel that will be or should be enough for Floyd or do you think it should still be the 'Olympic Style Testing?'
More money will be available to test boxers and mixed martial arts fighters in Nevada for steroids.
Republican Gov. Brian Sandoval on Wednesday signed a law allowing money from an existing ticket fee to pay for random drug screenings at any time including training periods.
Current law attaches a fee to tickets for live professional fights. The Nevada Athletic Commission gets $1 per person for large events and 50 cents for smaller fights that gross less than $500,000.
The money goes to grants to support organizations promoting amateur fights in Nevada.
The new law allows the athletic commission to divert some of the money to test amateur or professional fighters for performance-enhancing drugs that create an unfair advantage.
How do you feel about the state of Nevada implementing a new drug policy effective at the end of the month which includes random YEAR ROUND drug tests? This is what pac wanted something that is enforced by the commission not a single fighter. Do you feel that will be or should be enough for Floyd or do you think it should still be the 'Olympic Style Testing?'
I've always said that testing should be handled by the commision. One man is not outside of the jurisdiction of the sanctioning bodies and I believe they, not Floyd, should be the ones to decide what type of tests should be taken. I've always said that and I'll remain firm on that. It's not right to have another fighter take that type of test when it isn't required and when there is no proof that the fighter is on ped's.
However, I said Manny needs to take it because it gives Floyd no way to wiggle out. You either put up or shut up at the end of the day and agreeing to the test will show Floyd for what he is which is a coward or someone who really wants to fight. Agreeing to the test won't show that Manny isn't on ped's, and his lawsuit and willingness to go that route is proof enough for me that he isn't on ped's.
Now aside from these two, and speaking on sports in general, my believe the random drug screenings should happen but I also believe they need to be fair when it comes to what type of drugs they are testing for and how much they fine someone. I believe Iron Mike was hit for like six figures for testing for weed but Lights Out got hit for a low five figures when he tested positive for peds/steroids so they need to tighten that shit up.
Agree on all points. As for the last point it would be worth finding out who did the fining as I wouldn't doubt those large figures came from currupt organizations like the WBC sanctioning the fights. If I remember correctly the wbc fined and suspended chris arreola for foul language after his loss to klitschko smh.
But going back, with the new drug policy in Nevada should that be enough for Floyd? I think I already know Floyd's answer but in my mind if its random and year round, which is better than just training camp, I think it is.
