Do You Whup Your Kid(s)?
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Why is it they are more likely incarcerated? Are you forgetting what criminal justice system we're still talking about? High incarceration rates of minorities has to do with a crooked legal system and unequal availability of resources for minorities as compared to the "dominant" culture.
Kryptic, don't even waste your time with this guy. As much as you can try and school the guy, he won't get it. He's stuck in his own intellectual prison and doesn't want to get out. And I still gotta get you that feedback on your shit, I looked at it but I want to look at it longer when I have more time available, since it's finals week next week and I've been busy as fuck.
Kryptic, don't even waste your time with this guy. As much as you can try and school the guy, he won't get it. He's stuck in his own intellectual prison and doesn't want to get out. And I still gotta get you that feedback on your shit, I looked at it but I want to look at it longer when I have more time available, since it's finals week next week and I've been busy as fuck.
http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/9708/14/nfm.spanking/
CHICAGO (CNN) -- In the long run, it turns out that sparing the rod may not spoil the child after all. Indeed, according to a study released Thursday, the opposite may be true: Spanking a child may produce long-term ill effects.
Based on interviews with the mothers of about 3,000 children, researcher Murray Straus of the University of New Hampshire found that corporal punishment is counterproductive, resulting in more antisocial behavior by children in later years.
Parents may not see this "boomerang" effect because it happens over weeks or months, according to the study, which appears in the latest issue of the American Medical Association's Archives of Pediatrics and Adolescent Medicine.
"Spanking chips away at the child's liking for, and trust of, the parent," Straus said. "One has to look at long-term effects of these things."
CNN's Pat Etheridge reports.
Researchers analyzed survey data from 807 mothers of children ages 6 to 9, taken in 1988 and 1990. They compared levels of antisocial behavior among spanked and unspanked children over that interval.
The more spanking a child received at the beginning of the study, the higher level of antisocial behavior at the end, according to the researchers.
Antisocial behavior was defined as cheating, lying, disobedience at school, breaking things deliberately, not feeling sorry after misbehaving or not getting along with teachers.
The study found that the higher levels of antisocial behavior were independent of other traits that could affect that behavior, such as a family's socioeconomic status and the amount of support parents give their children.
Parental warmth and support do tend to lessen the effects of spanking but do not cancel them, Straus said.
The results of this study are likely to be debated, because previous research has shown that 90 percent of U.S. parents spank their children. A majority of pediatricians and psychologists also do not discourage occasional corporal punishment.
In addition, corporal punishment in the classroom is still legal in 23 states.
Many parents spank only as a last resort and say they feel horrible about it afterward. Some would rather use other forms of discipline, if only they would work. Parenting classes offer advice about alternatives, because occasional swats can sometimes lead to harsher hitting.
Psychologist Irwin Hyman, author of the book "The Case Against Spanking," agrees with Straus' study.
"There is never a reason to spank a child, period," Hyman said. "There's no other place in society where someone can ... smack another person. So why should we be able to do this to children?"
But Ted and Andrea Fouriezo, who have four children under the age of 6, defend spanking as a necessary means of setting and enforcing limits with their kids.
"We feel that the parents have to be the parents," Andrea Fouriezo said. "You can't let the children run circles around you, which they will. Kids want to push their limits."
"There (are) also times where they're trying to hurt themselves and we just have to stop them, especially when they were (at) the toddler stage -- touching hot plates or trying to get themselves up on the stove," said Ted Fouriezo.
Correspondent Pat Etheridge and Reuters contributed to this report.
CHICAGO (CNN) -- In the long run, it turns out that sparing the rod may not spoil the child after all. Indeed, according to a study released Thursday, the opposite may be true: Spanking a child may produce long-term ill effects.
Based on interviews with the mothers of about 3,000 children, researcher Murray Straus of the University of New Hampshire found that corporal punishment is counterproductive, resulting in more antisocial behavior by children in later years.
Parents may not see this "boomerang" effect because it happens over weeks or months, according to the study, which appears in the latest issue of the American Medical Association's Archives of Pediatrics and Adolescent Medicine.
"Spanking chips away at the child's liking for, and trust of, the parent," Straus said. "One has to look at long-term effects of these things."
CNN's Pat Etheridge reports.
Researchers analyzed survey data from 807 mothers of children ages 6 to 9, taken in 1988 and 1990. They compared levels of antisocial behavior among spanked and unspanked children over that interval.
The more spanking a child received at the beginning of the study, the higher level of antisocial behavior at the end, according to the researchers.
Antisocial behavior was defined as cheating, lying, disobedience at school, breaking things deliberately, not feeling sorry after misbehaving or not getting along with teachers.
The study found that the higher levels of antisocial behavior were independent of other traits that could affect that behavior, such as a family's socioeconomic status and the amount of support parents give their children.
Parental warmth and support do tend to lessen the effects of spanking but do not cancel them, Straus said.
The results of this study are likely to be debated, because previous research has shown that 90 percent of U.S. parents spank their children. A majority of pediatricians and psychologists also do not discourage occasional corporal punishment.
In addition, corporal punishment in the classroom is still legal in 23 states.
Many parents spank only as a last resort and say they feel horrible about it afterward. Some would rather use other forms of discipline, if only they would work. Parenting classes offer advice about alternatives, because occasional swats can sometimes lead to harsher hitting.
Psychologist Irwin Hyman, author of the book "The Case Against Spanking," agrees with Straus' study.
"There is never a reason to spank a child, period," Hyman said. "There's no other place in society where someone can ... smack another person. So why should we be able to do this to children?"
But Ted and Andrea Fouriezo, who have four children under the age of 6, defend spanking as a necessary means of setting and enforcing limits with their kids.
"We feel that the parents have to be the parents," Andrea Fouriezo said. "You can't let the children run circles around you, which they will. Kids want to push their limits."
"There (are) also times where they're trying to hurt themselves and we just have to stop them, especially when they were (at) the toddler stage -- touching hot plates or trying to get themselves up on the stove," said Ted Fouriezo.
Correspondent Pat Etheridge and Reuters contributed to this report.
good luck finding a child psychologist that isnt some bible thumping fundie and supports corporal punishment.
again why is it ok to hit a child but a crime to correct your spouse with the same action? because the bible says so?
intellectual prison my ass.
again i ask you. go to a prison and go to a university. which one is more likely to house people who were spanked as a child. i guarantee it would be in a prison.
again why is it ok to hit a child but a crime to correct your spouse with the same action? because the bible says so?
intellectual prison my ass.
again i ask you. go to a prison and go to a university. which one is more likely to house people who were spanked as a child. i guarantee it would be in a prison.
Okay homie. I've read enough of ur ignorant ass post. Fuck a whupping. Judging by the way you've turned out no approach would of helped you. Like I said, some kids need an ass kicking & some don't.
U obviously needed an ass kicking, couseling & special attention.
All of that bullshit time out don't fly with me. I never said that whupping ur kids makes everything better all the time but it comes a time when a child might need 2 get his/her ass beat.
And comparing whupping ur kids 2 slapping ur bitch sounds like a bullshit ass ploy cuz u can't verbally check ur bitch or check her nonviolently. U can't raise a grown ass woman.
U obviously needed an ass kicking, couseling & special attention.
All of that bullshit time out don't fly with me. I never said that whupping ur kids makes everything better all the time but it comes a time when a child might need 2 get his/her ass beat.
And comparing whupping ur kids 2 slapping ur bitch sounds like a bullshit ass ploy cuz u can't verbally check ur bitch or check her nonviolently. U can't raise a grown ass woman.
You're a dumbass phil, no other way to put it.
How the fuck can spousal abuse be the same as spanking your child? You as a parent are responsible for teaching your kids how to live and how to function in this society, therefore it is up to you to teach your kids.
A wife on the other hand, is responsible for her own damn self, or at least should be. A husband is NOT responsible for teaching the wife anything, they are partners. The relationship between a parent and a child is COMPLETELY different than the relationship between husband and wife.
Is that simple enough Phil?
How the fuck can spousal abuse be the same as spanking your child? You as a parent are responsible for teaching your kids how to live and how to function in this society, therefore it is up to you to teach your kids.
A wife on the other hand, is responsible for her own damn self, or at least should be. A husband is NOT responsible for teaching the wife anything, they are partners. The relationship between a parent and a child is COMPLETELY different than the relationship between husband and wife.
Is that simple enough Phil?
Hope this is sarcasm, because phil is trying to make a point similar to this one.
It's funny how the blame is given to the individual and their own circumstances, yet the actual UNEQUAL system is ignored. The world is like this because of greedy people and their systematic manipulation of the economy, as well as the systematic and institutional racism, sexism, prejudice, etc.,
It's funny how the blame is given to the individual and their own circumstances, yet the actual UNEQUAL system is ignored. The world is like this because of greedy people and their systematic manipulation of the economy, as well as the systematic and institutional racism, sexism, prejudice, etc.,