DO YOU WANT TO PERFORM IN FRONT OF 7000
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dude shut up about ethical anbd against the code. it happens!!!! payola happens thats the way it is. and are your really trying to tell me about the biz , ive been it it for 10 years and i went to school for it so dont try with that jimmy shit. like i was sayin another garbage song. so how hard did youy have to search for that and theres only 9! see keep waistin time arguin this shit happens people pay for shit ethical or not break bread or get over it!
I didn't have to search long for that shit...the contact info is in my address book. There are more, those are just the ones I have on hand. I've been in it for 8 years, I didn't go to school for it, and I got everything I have on my own through NETWORKING! School can't teach you how to be an artist and make connections, it's just something you have to learn and do on your own. Just like a business management class doesn't guarantee success as a business manager.
It's obvious you don't know much about A&R's because you're sitting here telling me record labels don't have them anymore. Well, I've been face to face with them. Interscope, Def Jam, Universal, Aftermath...they all have A&R's and they are still looking for new talent.
I understand that Payola is part of the game, doesn't mean it's not fucked up. Paying to perform, well, that means any no talent ass rapper can open for somebody...and that's not impressive to the people who buy tickets, nor is it impressive to the people who put a contract in front of your face. I'm not an ignorant internet rapper, I've done my homework and I've done my footwork.
Like I said, keep grindin'...do what you do. I'm not hatin' on you or anybody for makin' your money. But when it comes to this business, there's a little misrepresentation there.
It's obvious you don't know much about A&R's because you're sitting here telling me record labels don't have them anymore. Well, I've been face to face with them. Interscope, Def Jam, Universal, Aftermath...they all have A&R's and they are still looking for new talent.
I understand that Payola is part of the game, doesn't mean it's not fucked up. Paying to perform, well, that means any no talent ass rapper can open for somebody...and that's not impressive to the people who buy tickets, nor is it impressive to the people who put a contract in front of your face. I'm not an ignorant internet rapper, I've done my homework and I've done my footwork.
Like I said, keep grindin'...do what you do. I'm not hatin' on you or anybody for makin' your money. But when it comes to this business, there's a little misrepresentation there.
You're absolutely right, I didn't get signed and neither did my group. They listened to one song and tried to tell us how to make it club...we told 'em it wasn't a club song, and we weren't going to make it one. Told 'em thanks, and went on our merry way. If we had complied, we'd probably be making a lot of money right now...but we're not the cats that will compromise our art for a quick buck.
I believe your network game is on point...never said it wasn't.
I believe your network game is on point...never said it wasn't.
Whats worth it and whats not is up to the buyer to decide. New and lesser known acts do pay for tours with established Artists to broaden their fan bases. I may not want to pay for a star to feature on my project, But will if I think it will tap into his/her following. My folks J3 of the Bayleins just did a wild949 venue and got crazy exposure/publication because of it. Doubt if they paid to get on though.
blood you payed to preform on that super hyphy. and quit name dropping like i aint sold a cd with gold toes before. what does berner do on his own? no assistance? no big name dj, no feature, no super hyphy show? what does berner do on his own?
i retired so i could give a fuck less who pays for what around here. but i know the game son. and i been doing this shit. respect my mind youngster.
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selling hand to hand cds will buy you gas and dennys. soundscan store bought cds and itunes downloads get you further in the game. so once again, them shows you paying for aint selling you no records.
i retired so i could give a fuck less who pays for what around here. but i know the game son. and i been doing this shit. respect my mind youngster.
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selling hand to hand cds will buy you gas and dennys. soundscan store bought cds and itunes downloads get you further in the game. so once again, them shows you paying for aint selling you no records.
Pay to play aint the bizness.Its easy to sell cd's at shows when your cd features the best of the Bay.Personaly I want to be the one who is heard on all of my songs.I would hate to buy a cd of an artist I appreciate only to find out of 15 joints he's only got 2 thats solo songs.Thats a compilation imo.So to get back to my point,when you feature the best of the bay on your cd berner,people tend to buy the product based on features and not for the fact that your rapping on it.Thats all good if you dont care about being heard or give a fuck about your status in the rap game,short term goals lead to short term money.Features to sell cd's.pay to play,...i aint feelin it....Its a damn shame that money speaks before experience and skills
Hyphy Dave I read your post about wanting free beats for Dubee's albums and thought that was wack as hell but didn't comment. Now with this post I feel the need to comment on this. At the least have somebody OPEN for free. If you can't break bread to pay them to perform then that is weak, straight up. Either you aren't gonna make shit off your show and need to rethink your strategy here, or you are a greedy man. Which one is it?
And also why would you want some garbage ass group performing at your show even if they paid you? It's just gonna make you look bad in the end. There is really no excuse for this BS "give me free beats for Dubee's album" or "we need an opener for a show with 2 big acts performing, but you have to pay if you want to open."
These producer's should not be doing beats for free for Dubee either. Is it their fault that he got caught up and didn't stack enough chips beforehand in case this situation came about? FUCK NO IT'S NOT. If he has kids and needs ends like that then he shouldn't have been putting his kids at risk by doing whatever he did to get caught up.
My 2 Cents.
And also why would you want some garbage ass group performing at your show even if they paid you? It's just gonna make you look bad in the end. There is really no excuse for this BS "give me free beats for Dubee's album" or "we need an opener for a show with 2 big acts performing, but you have to pay if you want to open."
These producer's should not be doing beats for free for Dubee either. Is it their fault that he got caught up and didn't stack enough chips beforehand in case this situation came about? FUCK NO IT'S NOT. If he has kids and needs ends like that then he shouldn't have been putting his kids at risk by doing whatever he did to get caught up.
My 2 Cents.
first of all doo why should i put money up for shit im already puttin hella time for dis shit. and hella producers need exposure and i almost garentee theyll get it here. second of all fuck all yall that question my tactics for shows. ive been doin it for ten years and never charged a dime for openers just put people on if there music was good. but now i charge 2 people and you guys get on my nutz fuck yall. thats right 2 people im not a promoter that needs 10 opening acts to pay 500 to have the money to put on a show, im a promoter that did it once and charge people to open for a huge ass show that no one on this board would have just got on by talent cause like i said i got my openers that will eat any openers any promoter that can put up. I take care of my people my dj gets 600 every show when i could give him 3 but naw thats my dude. Ask any rapper that has worked with me about me. I get mine so fuck you all opinion.
And Why the Fuck would i pay someone (the opener) who will not bring extra heads. The show i got is gonna sell 6000 by itself so to add an opener is to fill time. why would i pay to let someone perform in front of 6000. and my openers work for free and then they get a buzz then i pay.
And Why the Fuck would i pay someone (the opener) who will not bring extra heads. The show i got is gonna sell 6000 by itself so to add an opener is to fill time. why would i pay to let someone perform in front of 6000. and my openers work for free and then they get a buzz then i pay.
i didnt comment either
he wants a tight beat for free,
not only that,
an exclusive beat
what an asshole!!
i guess everybody wants to fuck over the "unexposed musician"
and why do people act like thats actually exposure,
there's a difference with effects and results
one thing is you being on the credits, the other thing is people giving a shit about your free beats
he wants a tight beat for free,
not only that,
an exclusive beat
what an asshole!!
i guess everybody wants to fuck over the "unexposed musician"
and why do people act like thats actually exposure,
there's a difference with effects and results
one thing is you being on the credits, the other thing is people giving a shit about your free beats
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