**Official AMC show "The Walking Dead" Thread - MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS**

[BUTCHER 206]

Daryl even made mention that Randall wasn't bitten, was confused by it, AND was in the lab when the CDC guy was explaining everything.

his confusion was alluding to the revelation that the kid had no bite marks and was killed by a broken neck, and therefore probably murdered by shane. he was already suspecting shane of being up to something fishy, and this was the final clue that solved the mystery for him. if anythign this supports that he knows full well the mechanics of how one is turned by the virus.

Shane killing that guy was off-camera, which makes no sense unless something is being concealed from our view for a reason.

this is for dramatic purposes. as an audience member i felt, "ok, maybe he didnt kill the kid, maybe he just knocked him out and is going to make rick shoot the kid to prove a point". this makes it much more dramatic when we find out shane actually killed the kid as darryl reveals that the kid had his neck broken and was murdered; not turned by a zombie attack. thats why it was concealed from us, to make the ending more shocking and dramatic

I love the show, but a lot of the plot holes are sloppy. Darabont and other writers removal from the show is really showing now.
You can breath the zombie-infested air, but you can't be bitten or die in it? That's fucking stupid, season one explanation or not. Tyrone had a festering wound, only for it to magically heal, get into a big fight with zombie blood flying everywhere, yet he's still around acting like the token black guy, hanging out in the corner and riding out his contract until it's his time to go.

oh, you mean season 2 episode 1, "What Lies Ahead."

Plot

After the destruction of the Center for Disease Control (CDC) in Atlanta, Rick Grimes (Andrew Lincoln) and the survivors decide to travel to Fort Benning. Their group consists of Rick, along with his wife Lori (Sarah Wayne Callies) and son Carl (Chandler Riggs); Carol Peletier (Melissa McBride) and her daughter Sophia (Madison Lintz); Shane Walsh (Jon Bernthal), Dale Horvath (Jeffrey DeMunn), Andrea (Laurie Holden), Glenn (Steven Yeun), T-Dog (IronE Singleton), and Daryl Dixon (Norman Reedus). The group encounters a blockade of abandoned vehicles and Dale's RV breaks down, much to their dismay. Alongside with Glenn, Dale tries to repair the vehicle; the rest search for clothing, food, and water. Andrea argues with Dale about how his decision to stay with her at the CDC took away her choice to end her life on her own terms. Shane notifies Lori that he plans on leaving the group of his own accord.
A large herd of zombies—or "walkers" as they are referred to—abruptly arrives in the distance, prompting the survivors to seek shelter under abandoned vehicles. Andrea is trapped in the bathroom of an RV, and a walker suddenly discovers her. Dale hands a screwdriver via an opening in the truck's roof, and Andrea uses it to stab the walker. Meanwhile, T-Dog slices his arm and attracts walkers from his trail of blood. Daryl rescues him by stabbing a walker; with T-Dog, he hides under nearby dead bodies, whose scent protects them. Two walkers locate Sophia hiding under a car, and they chase her into the woods. Rick pursues them and, when he catches Sophia, urges her to seek refuge in a hole near the riverbed so he can deflect the attention of the walkers. Once Rick distracts the walkers, Sophia escapes from the premises. Daryl and Rick attempt to track her down but are unsuccessful, and the search is temporarily called off. A frantic and distraught Carol blames Rick for losing Sophia, exacerbating the guilt he already feels.
The next morning the search for Sophia resumes. The group later encounters an electric bell on a church; three walkers are housed at the building. After killing the walkers, Lori and Carol go inside to pray. Desperately, Carol begs for forgiveness and for the safe arrival of Sophia. Andrea overhears Shane and Lori arguing about his plans to leave, and Andrea professes her willingness to go with Shane. As the stresses worsen, Rick questions his stance as leader of the group. He asks the statue of Christ in the church for some sign that he is making the right decisions for the group. Afterwards, Rick, Carl, and Shane discovers a whitetail deer in the woods. Carl proceeds towards the deer when a gunshot bullet fires; it passes through the deer and strikes Carl in the stomach. Rick frantically rushes to his son, who is severely injured.

youre talking about this episode right? interesting thing about that episode.... it was written by frank darabont.

"What Lies Ahead" is the first episode of the second season of the post-apocalyptic horror television series The Walking Dead. It originally aired on AMC in the United States on October 16, 2011. The episode was written by series developer Frank Darabont (under the pseudonym Ardeth Bey) and series creator Robert Kirkman, and directed by Gwyneth Horder-Payton and Ernest Dickerson.

Having Shane come to a balancing point, only to suddenly have his biggest psychotic shift, then kill him in the same episode isn't better writing than watching Lori pout about being pregnant for six episodes, flip her fucking car, and STILL manage to be pregnant? They should have drug his psychosis out, not meddled in it until it was appropriate for a single episode's diagram.

shane never came to a balancing point, he even made this very clear himself.
"you think we're going to try and kill each other and then just move on" or something to that effect are the words right out of his mouth, of course talking about the fight him and rick had and admitting that he never let it go, and will never let it go. if anything, his psychosis has been dragged out over 18 episodes total now, from season 1 to this episode. you say it happened instantly, ive been screaming hes a cancer to the group and the most dangerous element the group is facing for a long while now. sure, maybe he was a little more extreme, because ricks cunt wife lori had to agitate the crazed beast with whatever stupid little manipulative motivations she had when she gave him that false hope speech, but he was bound to bite again sooner or later. same beast, different degree of ferocity. i guess we just have different opinions on the matter, but to me he was just as psychotic when he was staring dale down asking for the guns back is the biggest example that comes to mind, then taunting dale to go ahead and shoot him in the chest. or other confrontations with dale and rick, as when he was staring the kid down getting ready to execute him right then and there in the shed. to me when he was baiting dale to go ahead and shoot and calling him a pussy and all that shit, it was just as psychotic as when he was asking rick to draw his gun and fight back.




by no means am i saying the show is perfect, or even "great", but this shits good enough to keep me entertained and to keep watching it. im invested now, and every now and then there are glimmers of how this show could be great and memorable. i guess we'll just have to wait and see

 

[BUTCHER 206]

R.I.P. Dale
good riddance shane, lol.



i like how they did this with back to back dramatic character deaths. to me this is how i see it;
Dale: didnt have what it takes to survive physically (failed to be a survivalist)
Shane: didnt have what it takes to survive morally (failed to be a humanist)

i hope this solves the debate on humanist thinking vs survivalist thinking. it was such a silly thing to argue about in the first place. everybodys going to die. in the end how you died doesnt matter, youre dead.


























but clearly we can all agree that dale is the winner in this situation, and clearly i was right this whole entire time. the only thing that matters is having a righteous life worth living and staying true to your moral code

 

[Hollywood]

They are following the comic book slightly but having characters die off early or to late..the regeneration i told you guys in like post 20..all you have to do is die and not get your brains blown..Carl didnt actually kill SHane but did kill zombie Shane now theyll leave the farm for a prison

 

[Rossibreath]

dude in the lab explained it...

its airborne, they all have the virus ..but it only kicks in when you die or get bitten ..

I don't remember that and if its true why isn't Rick expecting Shane to get up after he killed him?

 

[L.D.S.]

I watched the episode again and I understand Daryl's confusion. I also found out in the comics, people are subject to the same type of airborne virus, so you can't blame Darabont for it. I really just think that's stupid. Oh ok, you can blow your Fucking arm off in this air, but you better make sure you dont get scratched by a zombie! I cant suspend my dosbelief long enough to get into that.

Having Shane try to reason with Rick was a writing device to confuse you and steer you away from Shane's inevitable departure. Its a cheap parlor trick that, to me, took his psychosis out of context and lessened the emotional impact of him going completely off the edge. As nutty as he's been, and as back and forth he was with Carl, that whole convo with Rick that made Rick look insensitive and arrogant made no sense for either character, and only when Shane died did I realize why that conversation happened at all.

 

[Mr. Nice Guy]

I love the show, but a lot of the plot holes are sloppy. Darabont and other writers removal from the show is really showing now.

Agreed, lots of holes.

What is stupid to me is that most times in the show when someone is attacked by Walkers, the Walkers devour that person, ripping them limb from limb.

If that is the case, how would so many people become functioning Walkers?


Secondly, when the group is out looking for Sophia, they stumble upon the Walker that is hanging from the tree by a noose. They notice that the other Walkers have eaten the flesh off the bones in his legs where they can reach. If that is the case and the Walkers cannibalize each other, why haven't they all eaten on another off?

 

[Mr. Nice Guy]

And btw Carl's shot to kill Shane was unbelievably ridiculous.

A 20 yard head shot at night would be a very tough shot for a trained marksman, let a lone an emotional and shaking kid who probably has less than 100 shots under his belt in his lifetime.

 

[DFresh77]

And btw Carl's shot to kill Shane was unbelievably ridiculous.

A 20 yard head shot at night would be a very tough shot for a trained marksman, let a lone an emotional and shaking kid who probably has less than 100 shots under his belt in his lifetime.

He did have shooting training when they arrived at the farm....

 

[HawaiianBoss808]

ricks wife is a stupid whore. they all run in the house and she don't keep her eyes on carl thinking some guy out there with a gun trying to kill them lol

 

[Mr. Nice Guy]

He did have shooting training when they arrived at the farm....

I gave him 100 shots, how many bullets do you think they wasted on that training?

 

[$ileNt_eNe_ATL]

^^^ who cares though ... its a t.v show based on a comic book. Its not real period , If you want to question reality truth is zombies aren't going to take over the earth. So just kick back .. get you a plate of tacos and enjoy the show.

 

[SC_408]

^^^ who cares though ... its a t.v show based on a comic book. Its not real period , If you want to question reality truth is zombies aren't going to take over the earth. So just kick back .. get you a plate of tacos and enjoy the show.

lol exactly

 

[2-0-Sixx]

They are following the comic book slightly but having characters die off early or to late..the regeneration i told you guys in like post 20..all you have to do is die and not get your brains blown..Carl didnt actually kill SHane but did kill zombie Shane now theyll leave the farm for a prison

Yes we all know you're super awesome cuz u read the comics but how about stop posting spoilers? Its cool if u want to drop some information to clear something up but its gay to tell us they are going to a prison next, u fucktard.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

And btw Carl's shot to kill Shane was unbelievably ridiculous.

A 20 yard head shot at night would be a very tough shot for a trained marksman, let a lone an emotional and shaking kid who probably has less than 100 shots under his belt in his lifetime.

Lol some of u are just nitpicking now. Its a show. About Zombies.

 

[L.D.S.]

I don't think they're headed for a prison.

There's been too much build up finding that encampment, even though the pointed vocalization of said encampment was done by two people who died last episode.

And I smirked when Tyrone made that governor comment in context to the prisoner being released. He clearly wasn't talking about The Governor, but it was an interesting bit of writing and foreshadowing.

 

[KrazeeRDM]

overall i thought it was a great episode. the part when shane lost it was awesome and he just snappe dudes neak like a twig. i also liked that they had rick kill shane instead of daryl or someone creepin up and doing it. there were some serious flaws and holes in the episode but i think thats due to them moving a different direction then what was originally intended so thats bound to happen. but yeah great episode very entertaining and now shit will finally hit the fan at the farm.

 

[HawaiianBoss808]

on the talking dead the girl that plays Maggie said maybe shane took rick out there wanting him to kill him. like after ricks wife said she was sorry he wanted rick to kill him. idk that lady could be just shooting in the dark but who knows what was running through shanes mind

 

[KrazeeRDM]

on the talking dead the girl that plays Maggie said maybe shane took rick out there wanting him to kill him. like after ricks wife said she was sorry he wanted rick to kill him. idk that lady could be just shooting in the dark but who knows what was running through shanes mind

i think it was a all mixed emotions and rage all built up. dude flat out snapped. and then when he pulled on rick i think he had intentions on killing him but couldnt do it. rick knew he wouldnt do it either but he still did what had to be done cause god forbid shane finally builds up what it takes to kill him then rick woulda been fucked. only part i didnt like about the ending was carl being there but thats just because i hate the fucker. it was done nicely but it pissed me off that he was there for some reason. also didnt like the new twist that when your dead you become a zombie but it didnt bother me at all. hopefully the finale can top this episode.

 

[illuminati_guy]

who u think gonna die in next episode? t-dog is possible, they get new token black guy (and girl, i hope) in next season. probably that hershels daughter who tried to kill herself. shane already dead, so i don't about any major characters, maybe hershel

 

[KrazeeRDM]

who u think gonna die in next episode? t-dog is possible, they get new token black guy (and girl, i hope) in next season. probably that hershels daughter who tried to kill herself. shane already dead, so i don't about any major characters, maybe hershel

i think hershals entire family gonna die. but more importantly who's gonna play the #2 role that shane played perfectly. i hope they put daryl there considering he's held his own in big movies and even co-lead in boondock saints. he's more than capable. i hope they kill off the hershal fam and the bitch who lost her daughter. if all that is done next season imma be pumped for season 3.