damon bruce was goin off on the niners today. They definately have some problems over there. It was really weird when three players go awol and leave the team along with a coach. Hopefully they get this situation resolved. Jed has got to pick someone who does some good cuz he hasnt done shit right yet? Can any of you niner fans think of one good thing he has done... Maybe get the stadium bill passed in santa clara...
Wow, the niners situation lookin awful...
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lol @ this clown!
Aso > your entire 49ers squad
and Lechlers been here long enough to know wasup.. its tha first time in 7 years that this team didnt have a losing season.. but 8-8 is def. not a successful season either! And he does nothing but punt anyway so its not like a coaching change would affect his game.. this team is full of new explosive rookies and young players who will continue to grow together and get this team far..
lame ass whiner fans.. and to think I was gettn tired of these damn queef fans but even they have more logic then you
Aso > your entire 49ers squad
and Lechlers been here long enough to know wasup.. its tha first time in 7 years that this team didnt have a losing season.. but 8-8 is def. not a successful season either! And he does nothing but punt anyway so its not like a coaching change would affect his game.. this team is full of new explosive rookies and young players who will continue to grow together and get this team far..
lame ass whiner fans.. and to think I was gettn tired of these damn queef fans but even they have more logic then you
49ers' fall in search of coach riskier than Raiders'
By Monte Poole
Oakland Tribune
Now that each of our local NFL teams has backed itself into a tight little corner, we'll soon be able to fairly compare which was better at steering itself out of a potentially dangerous predicament.
The edge here goes to the team in the East Bay.
It's not that the Raiders are less likely than the 49ers to make a puzzling or misguided decision. We've seen enough of these formerly gilded franchises to realize each is affixed to calamity and has little idea how to escape.
But Oakland is better positioned because its chance of hiring the coach it logically should hire is marginally better than San Francisco's chance of hiring the only coach who immediately would polish its image.
Though the 49ers must persuade Jim Harbaugh to rescue them, two NFL sources said Wednesday the coach who brought winning back to Stanford has reservations about team president Jed York and, more specifically, newly hired general manager Trent Baalke.
Hue Jackson, who as Raiders offensive coordinator is best suited to fill their vacancy, already has worked with, gotten to know and bought into his boss.
That's one of many areas in which Raiders general managing partner Al Davis holds a decided advantage over York and Baalke as the teams seek to satisfy their own sensibilities, as well as those of their fan bases. Davis knows more about football, more about the business of the NFL, more about people and infinitely more about running a franchise.
When Davis nearly a year ago hired Jackson as offensive coordinator it was to address a persistently unproductive offense and simultaneously serve notice to coach Tom Cable, who entered the season with a 9-19 record and the boss breathing on the back of his prodigious neck.
If Cable were unable to coax appreciable improvement from the Raiders before the midseason bye week, Jackson could be ready for promotion, assuming the offense had rediscovered the end zone.
If Cable couldn't get the team into the playoffs with a strong push through December, Jackson would be there.
If Cable somehow prodded the Raiders into the postseason but never gained the full confidence of Davis, Jackson still would be there.
No matter the outcome, Davis would be ready with a backup a few feet away from Cable. And nobody on earth knows better than Al that both Raiders coaches who have won Super Bowls, John Madden and Tom Flores, were promoted from within the staff.
By bringing aboard Jackson, who had established himself as a credible candidate for head coach, Davis prepared himself and his team for a new era -- and, moreover, a relatively seamless transition.
That's important because Oakland's roster is widely supportive of Cable. No surprise there, as players stumped for his return after the 2009 season, when the team went 5-11. Several Raiders have expressed dismay that Cable won't be back in 2011, with veteran punter Shane Lechler saying he does not want to be part of another coaching change.
Jackson is the one guy who represents a convenient exception. He would bring familiar carryover with new leadership. He has built relationships with players and was good enough at his job -- and with the people around him -- to be embraced by those who tolerated Cable and be accepted by those who were aligned with him.
No matter how highly a player thinks of his former coach, he will respond positively if his paycheck is unaffected -- and the new coach is effective.
Much of Oakland's progress this season was attributed to Jackson's dramatic improvement of the offense -- which came despite the Week 2 decision by Cable and Jackson to insert quarterback Bruce Gradkowski for Jason Campbell, whom Davis acquired in an offseason trade.
Just as Campbell withstood that setback and now has a solid relationship with Jackson, those players who rallied to Cable's defense in recent days could handle an old face in a new position.
Think Davis doesn't realize promoting Jackson would shake things up while allowing the players to avoid the kind of upheaval that might feel like regression?
This is why Oakland's potentially dangerous predicament, irritating a segment of the roster, is considerably easier to navigate. Care to imagine the unrest among the troops if Davis hires Dennis Green or Kevin Gilbride or Jim Fassel, or any of those shopworn coaches he flirted with in the past?
As unappealing and unpopular as those choices are, that's what York and Baalke might be looking at if $7 million per year doesn't buy Harbaugh's signature.
Davis should hire Jackson and has no reason to believe he can't -- unless York and Baalke, spurned by Harbaugh, decide to pursue Jackson before Al makes an offer.
Don't expect it, though. Never expect to see Al Davis outmaneuvered.
By Monte Poole
Oakland Tribune
Now that each of our local NFL teams has backed itself into a tight little corner, we'll soon be able to fairly compare which was better at steering itself out of a potentially dangerous predicament.
The edge here goes to the team in the East Bay.
It's not that the Raiders are less likely than the 49ers to make a puzzling or misguided decision. We've seen enough of these formerly gilded franchises to realize each is affixed to calamity and has little idea how to escape.
But Oakland is better positioned because its chance of hiring the coach it logically should hire is marginally better than San Francisco's chance of hiring the only coach who immediately would polish its image.
Though the 49ers must persuade Jim Harbaugh to rescue them, two NFL sources said Wednesday the coach who brought winning back to Stanford has reservations about team president Jed York and, more specifically, newly hired general manager Trent Baalke.
Hue Jackson, who as Raiders offensive coordinator is best suited to fill their vacancy, already has worked with, gotten to know and bought into his boss.
That's one of many areas in which Raiders general managing partner Al Davis holds a decided advantage over York and Baalke as the teams seek to satisfy their own sensibilities, as well as those of their fan bases. Davis knows more about football, more about the business of the NFL, more about people and infinitely more about running a franchise.
When Davis nearly a year ago hired Jackson as offensive coordinator it was to address a persistently unproductive offense and simultaneously serve notice to coach Tom Cable, who entered the season with a 9-19 record and the boss breathing on the back of his prodigious neck.
If Cable were unable to coax appreciable improvement from the Raiders before the midseason bye week, Jackson could be ready for promotion, assuming the offense had rediscovered the end zone.
If Cable couldn't get the team into the playoffs with a strong push through December, Jackson would be there.
If Cable somehow prodded the Raiders into the postseason but never gained the full confidence of Davis, Jackson still would be there.
No matter the outcome, Davis would be ready with a backup a few feet away from Cable. And nobody on earth knows better than Al that both Raiders coaches who have won Super Bowls, John Madden and Tom Flores, were promoted from within the staff.
By bringing aboard Jackson, who had established himself as a credible candidate for head coach, Davis prepared himself and his team for a new era -- and, moreover, a relatively seamless transition.
That's important because Oakland's roster is widely supportive of Cable. No surprise there, as players stumped for his return after the 2009 season, when the team went 5-11. Several Raiders have expressed dismay that Cable won't be back in 2011, with veteran punter Shane Lechler saying he does not want to be part of another coaching change.
Jackson is the one guy who represents a convenient exception. He would bring familiar carryover with new leadership. He has built relationships with players and was good enough at his job -- and with the people around him -- to be embraced by those who tolerated Cable and be accepted by those who were aligned with him.
No matter how highly a player thinks of his former coach, he will respond positively if his paycheck is unaffected -- and the new coach is effective.
Much of Oakland's progress this season was attributed to Jackson's dramatic improvement of the offense -- which came despite the Week 2 decision by Cable and Jackson to insert quarterback Bruce Gradkowski for Jason Campbell, whom Davis acquired in an offseason trade.
Just as Campbell withstood that setback and now has a solid relationship with Jackson, those players who rallied to Cable's defense in recent days could handle an old face in a new position.
Think Davis doesn't realize promoting Jackson would shake things up while allowing the players to avoid the kind of upheaval that might feel like regression?
This is why Oakland's potentially dangerous predicament, irritating a segment of the roster, is considerably easier to navigate. Care to imagine the unrest among the troops if Davis hires Dennis Green or Kevin Gilbride or Jim Fassel, or any of those shopworn coaches he flirted with in the past?
As unappealing and unpopular as those choices are, that's what York and Baalke might be looking at if $7 million per year doesn't buy Harbaugh's signature.
Davis should hire Jackson and has no reason to believe he can't -- unless York and Baalke, spurned by Harbaugh, decide to pursue Jackson before Al makes an offer.
Don't expect it, though. Never expect to see Al Davis outmaneuvered.
harbaugh staying at stanford guaranteed
and thats ok with me...i think he is over hyped like alex smith was back in 2005
honestly he has only had 1 winning season with no NFL coaching experience...
i dont want him on the niners especially for what his going rate is now 8+ million dollars a year....please...bitch you aint no bill walsh
harbaugh is a flashy name...it doesnt guarantee us anything more than that
and thats ok with me...i think he is over hyped like alex smith was back in 2005
honestly he has only had 1 winning season with no NFL coaching experience...
i dont want him on the niners especially for what his going rate is now 8+ million dollars a year....please...bitch you aint no bill walsh
harbaugh is a flashy name...it doesnt guarantee us anything more than that
how are we at the bottom of the barrel???
here comes the overly-cocky Niners fans again... great......
you guys hire an unproven college coach and all of a sudden you're going to the Super Bowl, huh... lmao
I think Harbaugh has a chance to do a decent job... but calm the fuck down... seriously... as of right now the Raiders are still a better team
here comes the overly-cocky Niners fans again... great......
you guys hire an unproven college coach and all of a sudden you're going to the Super Bowl, huh... lmao
I think Harbaugh has a chance to do a decent job... but calm the fuck down... seriously... as of right now the Raiders are still a better team