Why is it on Making Of The Band The White Guy Was The Weakest.

fozzit · Sep 17, 2003

to get back to the initial post, race plays a huge importance in american society.....Hip Hop is a black culture... IT however has become bigger than a neighborhood and is now global... same with Jazz (african american music), rock and roll (african american music), the blues (african american music).... i mean shit.. there were white people participating around the times when each musical movement started up, but you dont hear about native americans being called founders of the black gospel music movement, or the rednecks living hand in hand with the blacks in the delta doing rock and roll..

for hundreds of years black folks as well as other ethnic and racial groups other than white europeans have been perceived as savages, another species related to human, etc... it takes years for that shit to heal... and if you cant see the paterns of powerful white folks consitently stealing culture and land from indigeneous people then u are probably reading a math or english book cuz its fa sho aint history..

Its something that happens today still.. White people are still privilieged in this society over black folks no matter how high we jump, or how nice we look, or how much hard work we did, the stereo types will be there..... its one thing to help change it, but you cant make a difference by ignoring it and saying it isnt there.. because it is.. its there.. millions of peolple still feel the pains of racism, stereotyping all that shit.. its not even considered a scar yet.. that shit is a slowly healing open wound....

and if you wanna talk about it ona world wide level... lets look at africa and whats going on there.. its fucking depressing...

so please folks..

its gonna be a race thing...always.. it lurks......

MeloTrauma · Sep 17, 2003

^^^ fa shiggadoe

Sydal · Sep 17, 2003

Fozzit, you are right...there's always gonna be race issues until the day people decide to get their fuckin minds right. However, some of us don't IGNORE IT, we know it's there, but it's not a part of our lives. People like me, who don't care what color people are or where they came from...people NEED to think more like us.

Like I've always said, don't bring racial shit into MY life. I had NOTHING to do with slavery or the fact that people from Europe came over here and slaughtered Natives. In fact, my family hasn't even been in this country for a Century...when they came from Italy they were frowned upon in a major way. But, am I mad about that? Am I playing that card? NO!! Every race needs to stop playing cards like that, and we as the next generation, need to start the process. As long as there's people our age, bringing race into EVERYTHING, shit will remain all bad. Instead of constantly complaining about the problem, go out there and make a difference. I've been trying but I'm only ONE man, and ONE man can only make so much impact on billions of people. Feel me?

So it's not that people IGNORE the facts, it's just that we don't really bring up racial shit in everyday discussions, because we're out here trying to dead that racial shit. It's not only white folks that do this...none of my friends who happen to be african american talk about racial shit, or play the race card either. So, I dunno...everybody has their own outlook I guess, a lot of them just don't seem right in todays society, and where we should all be mentally. To each his own!! People who dwell on shit like this will be miserable and won't know what it's like to really LIVE LIFE!! Cause the way I see it, whoever is racist, is an idiot. A lot of people in this country aren't idiots, so why worry about what SOME people say or do? Don't worry about it, just know that there are more people in this country with sense and respect.

sav-man · Sep 17, 2003

Well, a lot of folks here have made some good points. My feeling is that you can't know what another race goes through if YOU are not that particular race yourself. There's a segment from Ice-T's book, THE ICE OPINION, where he talks about race relations, that expresses this idea, and as a white person, I can see what he means. Peep:

"People are reaching out for understanding of each other, but it's gonna take time. A lot of white kids tell me, 'Yo, Ice, I want to be down. But black people, you know, they ain't receptive.' I try to explain to them: 'Look, man, shit has been fucked up for four hundred years, right? It's gonna take a while, it might take 150 years before it changes. You can't be like, 'You should accept me because I'm wearing this Malcolm X T-shirt.' You know, you gotta be patient, you gotta show love.' It may take another 200 years to undo past damage...I sometimes wish for quick fixes, too." (145)

Me, I just try to live my life and treat others the way I'd like to be treated...

PEACE!

Dr. Curien · Sep 17, 2003

Its not the whites that run the country, rather greed is what cause the countries racism and causes slavery and causes all evil.
Slavery happened not because we felt the need to inslave africans rather the need for them to do work while we basically had fun all day we desired more and more so much so that the greed took control and thats why slaves were here. And correct me if Iam wrong but since the africans sold their own people they to were greedy since they wanted more and more of the things the Americans brought to them. Look at musicians the have all these cars sitting on "dubbs" and other artists buy tons and tons of coke and live in 6 million doller homes. Hollywood celebrites are the same way. Its greed my fellow sicciens that controls the world. Look past racism and see what the real evil is.

Epidemic

Sydal · Sep 17, 2003

tadou said:

@ Tadou...
You really are an ignorant fuck aren't you? Ok, here I go BITCH!! First off, I work @ Kaiser Hospital, a lot of the people I work with on a DAILY BASIS have a fuckin Master's or A PHd, their jobs REQUIRE it. What their degrees are in, I don't know and I don't care, I don't get personal with the people I work with. Now, if that's NOT good enough, my father has a Master's Degree in Organizational Management, which he got with a 3.8 GPA @ the ripe old age of 42. Still wanna talk shit??

Ain't nothin fake on mine pimp, and if you don't believe that, fly your dumbass out to California and try to pull my card. I'll SHOW you my card and we can see who's fakin'. Everything I spit is real, so kill the dumb shit.

MeloTrauma · Sep 17, 2003

EpidemicReborn said:

Damn man, how can you say slavery wasnt an exercise in racism? Why wasnt there any white slaves in the US then? Sure its greed homie we all know that, but I also thought we all knew it was racist. Guess I was wrong.

And it sounds like you suscribe to the idea of slavery when you say "Slavery happened not because WE felt the need to inslave africans..."

You use the word we, including yourself in the group. Freudian slip?

BIGTOE · Sep 17, 2003

I can't believe i wasted my time opening this thread

LadyTragik · Sep 17, 2003

Sydal · Sep 17, 2003

Yea, MeloTrauma is right. Slavery was greed AND racism. The fact that the Africans sold their own people was pure greed. About using the word "WE" in your post, bad idea. I would never identify with racists or slave owners or any people like them.

MeloTrauma · Sep 17, 2003

But also, africans didnt understand greed until colonialism was introduced into the tribal systems. Then it became the survival of the richest. It made tribesmen turn against eachother. You can still see the same shit going on in any inner city today. Colonialism is still in full effect.

D-Locc60 · Sep 17, 2003

SYDAL-
I have to correct you on this-
A PHD does not ablsolutely/definately mean that the person who holds the degree is ONLY/STRICTLY "book smart".
Thats a myth....not a Fact.

Thats like sayin all blacc people eat fried chicken and watermelon.

People who hold PHD's are as diverse as the general population.

I hold a degree and look forward to a masters and possibly a PHD.
If I was to obtain a PHD, D-Locc would be really far
from "only book smart".

There are some folkz with street game that have a PHD.

Im speakin what I know.

stay up though maan-

D-Locc

Sydal · Sep 17, 2003

D-Locc...I'm not saying ALL people with PHd's are only booksmart. But on the real, 1 out of 2 people I know PERSONALLY with a PHd or a Masters are fuckin morons when they aren't going by the book. But, I know there are some out there with common sense...

My bad though, I should have worded my sentence correctly, I can see that I did say it in a fucked up way. But yea, you're right, stay up pimp.

D-Locc60 · Sep 18, 2003

Sydal-

COOOL-COOOOOOOL

its all gravy folkz.....

keep it movin

D-Locc

Jim_beam · Sep 18, 2003

In the immortal words of Tech N9ne "Yada Yada Yada, Its just Talk"
on a side note...

D-Locc60 said:

D-loco where the fine batches at in texas!?!?! I am going to see a comrade of mine in Dallas in October. I need places! lol

MOESES SOULRIGHT THE 2nd · Sep 18, 2003

STOVE TOP
it's what's for dinner

Sydal · Sep 18, 2003

^^^^
LOL, Moe you're a fuckin fool man...LOL

BASEDVATO · Sep 18, 2003

I know that dude... Made some beats for him before he was in the maken of the band... he was in a group called Top Prospects and they where dope

He just added a mp3 page of his newer work since after maken the band

www.mp3.com/jdrastik

pretty dope stuff... he's mainstream, but good some dope beats, and a track with tony sunshine

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