Why is it on Making Of The Band The White Guy Was The Weakest.

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Hold up playa,

I still dont understand how you think Im twisting your words. You said everyone needs to leave race out of it, but you go on to state race issues, I dont get it, maybe its my interpretation, or your typing. Either way Im dropping it.

Also, as far as census information goes that shit is only held every 10 years, thats all we or anybody can go by. And you right and wrong about undocumented illegals. My dad's been llegal since 1956 and he still fills out the census, Im sure there are others that wouldnt.

And as far as San Jose goes I gott hella fam there, and where they at its ALL Mexicans, but you go to other parts and its all white and asian, you know that pimp.

I grew up in Union City where Mexicans officially do outnumber every other racial group, but I see more Filipinos than a mutha fucka back home. Observation of your surroundings aint exact science.
 
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MeloTrauma said:
And as far as San Jose goes I gott hella fam there, and where they at its ALL Mexicans, but you go to other parts and its all white and asian, you know that pimp.
Yup, I've been all over this great big city of San Jo, and I know who's out here. A LOT of Mexicans, A LOT of Vietnamese cats...then you got white, black, chinese, Japanese and so on. My part of San Jose, growing up, was white people and mexican people...now it's all Vietnamese, and a couple Latino families. Whether it's Latino's or Asians, all I know is that white people are not the majority in San Jose. Not bitching about it, just stating it...

And yes, you are probably misunderstanding me cause you're not face to face with me, talking to me...instead you are reading and you can interpret shit in any number of ways. It's all love....
 
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tadou said:
^^ Poor people can and do become rich by hard work and college education.....people with AIDS/HIV usually get it from fornication because they can't understand abstinence.....people go to jail because they break laws and think they're immune to the justice system......But when 2 people are 100% equal, except one is white and the other is black, hispanic or middle eastern....in the United States, the non-white person is almost ALWAYS going to get the short end of the stick.

Damn Tadou. I think you just beat your record for most ignorent post for the 1100th time. I dont even know where to start with this post, but I disagree with EVERYTHING you have to say in this qoute.

and for the last time, THE WHITE MANS RULE IS OVER!!!!
 
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Tadou, your post was so DAMN stupid I can't even get myself to quote that shit...

Here's what I said. If you still don't get it, I suggest you STOP going to school and learn how to flip burgers.

"Why do SOME arabs choose to blow people up along with themselves? Why do SOME black people kill each other? Why do SOME white kids go into schools and shoot everybody? Why do SOME white men choose to be serial killers?? Why do all races sell drugs to their own people?"

Now, what I meant by all THAT, is SOME people from EVERY race do fucked up things...that, to me, makes us ALL the same. If you can't see what I'm saying with those words above, you're blind...completely and utterly fuckin' blind.

About the Mexico thing...I know they come from all over South America...but WAY MORE come to California from Mexico...wanna know why?? BECAUSE IT'S SO FUCKIN EASY TO DO!!

About me getting "hassled" by the police...I wanna ask you ONE question. What makes you think the cops harass me because I'm a rapper or a "hip hopper"? How do they know I'm a rapper when they pull me over? Here's the answer, THEY DON'T!! They are just dickholes!! NOW, I want you to go back, read my quote thoroughly, then come back and tell me I'm ignorant...if you do come back and tell me I'm ignorant after studying the shit, you're a moron and a perfect example of what's wrong with the school system these days. Every question I asked is REALITY in all forms...call me what you want, but that just means you're scared of the truth!! If you didn't notice, I mentioned "white people" in there twice...I'm equal with my shit, I favor NOBODY but the honest people, no matter where the fuck they come from.
 
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No, see, here's the problem. You AREN'T EDUCATED. Just because you go to school and believe what other people tell you, doesn't mean you're a smart person...in fact it makes you a retard. TWO, don't try to tell me what cracks in California, especially in my city...you're in fuckin Washington!! Who has the power in San Jose?? You have no idea. The mayor isn't white, most of the cops I run into aren't white...so get over the whole power and shit belonging to white people everywhere...this is California pimp, not Alabama.

"2nd, if you don't wanna get snitched on, shot at, stabbed, and locked up, STOP FUCKING AROUND WITH DRUGS."

You see that quote you made towards Epidemic ^^^^?? That makes you THE BIGGEST jackass in the nation. THAT is plain ignorance, AT ITS FINEST!! I've been shot at, somebody tried to slit my throat before too, but do I fuck around with drugs?? NO! Never have and never will. You are judging people, which makes you no better than the next idiot on the planet.

The reason I don't remove "insults" towards you, is because I don't change what I say for anybody. I don't want other people censoring me so why would I censor myself? People need to know how I feel, and if I don't let my feelings and thoughts known, life isn't worth living...with shit all caged up...all that does is cause stress and I don't need all that on my chest. In my OPINION, you're a moron and you should never try to hold an intelligent conversation with anybody. I've never seen you say anything CLOSE to intelligent. In fact, everything you say sounds just like the shit teachers and professors tried telling me, but I can think for myself...I'm not liberal enough to agree with most of the assholes, especially out here in CALI!!

This conversation is done, you're mind is nowhere near the same level as mine.

BTW, I do dress in casual wear. I also "speak and conduct myself conservatively"....so whats your excuse now for me being harassed?? I'm anxious to see what you might say.
 
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As far as Tadu is concerend I just laugh because your an idiot and I wont waste time responding to you anymore because your a hoe.

As far as me being ignorant for saying what she looked like, no thats not ignorant if she can dish out the racism is she ready to recieve it. Fuck there isnt any color lines drawn when you want to talk shit. And Ill disrespect anyone who disrespects me and thats the truth.

And the white mans role reversed on him that was just ignorant. No role was reversed on me and I rap. I dont care if your black or white your going to get faded lyrically when I flow regardless of your race. And rhyme didnt come from African Americans so lets throw that out now. Rhyme has existed since Adam and Eve. Iam saying this, this corny white mans world and black struggle shit is getting old and tiresome fast. No one cares about you being oppressed just like no one cares about the white man ruling the world or the white man being oppressed by the black man and the asain by the russian. Its an old bunch of bullshit that needs to be dropped. LIVE YOUR LIFE AND LIVE IT FOR TODAY NOT FOR THE PAST. This racist bullshit gets old and fast. So if your going to bitch and moan about the past might as well go ahead and fucking retire and give up because no one cares.

Oh yeah I didnt fuck with drugs my cousin was a informant for the police it isnt my fault he is a bitch. FUCK HIM

Epidemic
 
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EpidemicReborn said:
Iam saying this, this corny white mans world and black struggle shit is getting old and tiresome fast. No one cares about you being oppressed... Its an old bunch of bullshit that needs to be dropped. LIVE YOUR LIFE AND LIVE IT FOR TODAY NOT FOR THE PAST. This racist bullshit gets old and fast..
All this is easy to say for some one who doesnt have to worry about thier race. And yes, people do care, otherwise it wouldnt be an issue. The only people who dont care are SOME white folks because they dont have to care about race. And thats that.

As far as "LIVE YOUR LIFE AND LIVE IT FOR TODAY AND NOT THE PAST" If we dont learn from the past, theyre aint no today... or tommorow.

And when you said "the white mans rule is over," I nearly shit my pants with laughter. If you believe that, then it truly is a hopeless society we live in. Lets learn from eachother folks.
 

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who do you guys think is the next to blow up in the bay?

san quinn, messy marv, e-40


i cant wait for that new bullys with fullys cd

fuck the new bay


i just had to reply in a stupid way to show how stupid this post is

that was my impersonation of every young bitch that post on hear
dick riders all day

the first post with some substance in a long time and noone has a made a good point yet cept for tragik lol
 
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Hey V-Boy, if you think this post about the white dude from Making The Band started out with substance, Id hate to hear your rhymes. I think alot of us have made some good points. We enhanced this corny ass post.
 

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dubb they coming asap i got like forty people to send them too
get ready

melo the post was getting there i just think we are debating over something that can not be concluded two things a person should'nt argue over race and religion well politics to but thats neither here nor there

and dude if you wanna hear some rhymes check me out on cdbaby or soundclick or my website maybe you'll dig maybe you wont shit two thousand bay area natives cant be wrong and thats not even counting who they might have burned it for
 
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tadou said:
I'd say San Quinn, but he's a little bit too old.....if the bay had someone like a Juelz Santana or Joe Budden, my money would be on them.....
we still wouldnt blow up lol errybodee just start hatin on him on "O HE SOLD OUT BLA BLA BLA"
 
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the first post with some substance in a long time and noone has a made a good point yet cept for tragik lol
What did i say? If anything Tadou & MeloTrauma have made various valid points with sources to back it up. (i.e. statistics, etc) Where as everyone else resorted to name calling and frustration as a source of "venting." I've repeated myself where as to posting about the movie "The Color Of Fear" because it represents and talks about every single arguement made on this thread and more. It gets into depth about why "Caucasion" folks seem to be oblivious and choose not to accept the fact that RACE is a huge factor and plays into EVERYONE'S lives. To you it doesn't exist because you don't place yourself outside that bubble. Watch the movie, digest and then come back...




Background on “The Color of Fear”

Roberto Almanzan


In the documentary film “The Color of Fear,” a group of men at a weekend retreat engage in an open and candid dialogue on race and ethnicity. The filmmaker, Lee Mun Wah, a Chinese American community therapist, gathered a group of eight men, myself among them, who were willing to spend a weekend in an honest and unconstrained discussion about our experiences, beliefs and values related to race, color, ethnicity and culture. We met at a house belonging to a friend of the filmmaker. The house was about ten miles outside of Ukiah, a small rural town in Northern California. Two of the men were African American, two were Latino American, two were Asian American and two were European American or white. Lee Mun Wah functioned as the facilitator for the weekend.

Often, those who see the film wonder how the participants were chosen for this project. Mun Wah, as a community therapist, had been working with various men’s groups and consequently had a wide circle of connections. From this pool, he picked men he thought could be honest, open and expressive on race and ethnicity issues while being filmed. With a few exceptions, the men did not know each other before attending the retreat. To show that all Asians, Blacks or Whites do not think alike and are diverse, two men from each ethnic/racial group were included. The number of participants was kept small to increase group safety and intimacy and to give each person an opportunity to express himself fully.

The dialogue during the weekend was spontaneous and intense. I did not know that Mun Wah as the facilitator had prepared a list of about twenty questions to stimulate our dialogue. It did not matter because once he asked his first question about how we identified ethnically or racially, we never stopped talking. Fear, tears, rage, frustration and confusion filled the room as each of us revealed how we had been impacted by racism and our coping strategies. Slowly, hesitatingly, we also talked about the prejudice we’ve experienced and seen directed at our own ethnic group by other people of color. We saw that through no fault of our own, all of us have internalized messages that devalue people of color and that portray White people as more intelligent, able, moral and credible. Becoming aware of this can often precipitate anxiety and personal discomfort in people but it is fundamentally a healing experience that opens new vistas and possibilities. By the end of the weekend, by talking openly, listening intently and reflecting on each other’s experiences, we all came to a deep understanding of, connection to and epathy with each other.

Most people who view this film are deeply moved. Long after it is over, they continue to talk with each other about the feelings, thoughts and memories the video stirred in them. The dialogue in the video -- —real, arousing and eventually hopeful -- —is an example of the national dialogue we all need to have on race and ethnicity.
 
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The reason RACE plays a factor is because every non White person has an excuse on why he or she has had problems or short comings. The best excuse is to dig up americas ugly past and play the Race card, on how Whites control everything, which is just bullshit. People need to look at themselves before they start to play the race card, because they will be the 1st one to hate when one of theres make it, by calling them a sellout.
 
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StreetSoundzEnt said:
The best excuse is to dig up americas ugly past and play the Race card, on how Whites control everything, which is just bullshit.
Whites do control everything, well, everything that matters in this society. There has always been a white president of the united states, a white dude has always been head of the ENTIRE country... how would that be if there isnt complete white dominance in the US?

Also, statistically, white people commit the most crimes out of any other ethnic group. So why is it that there are more blacks and mexicans doing time for shit.

If that aint control, I dont know what is.

This shit is happening now playa, not in Americas ugly past.
 
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Tadou

You don't understand how life works. A PH.d means somebody is book smart. I know MANY people with Masters Degrees and PHd's that have NO COMMON SENSE whatsoever....

As for you passing judgement on me, eat a dick. You know nothing about me!! I'll just leave it at that rather than going on and on about how much of a moron you are....have a nice day, FRIEND!!