Who will the raiders draft?

[DukeSkywalker]

lol Al Davis still bitching about a move that went down like 2 decades ago! ha ha ha ha! Al Davis doesnt have a eye for talent for shit!


All Scrubs!! LOL and i think what makes these picks worse is all the talent they passed up! lol

2006
1. Michael Huff, S, Texas
2. Thomas Howard, LB, Texas-El Paso
3. Paul McQuistan, OL, Weber State
4. Darnell Bing, S, USC
6. Kevin Boothe, OL, Cornell
7a. Chris Morris, C, Michigan State
7b. Kevin McMahan, WR, Maine

2005
1. Fabian Washington, CB, Nebraska
2. Stanford Routt, CB, Houston
3a. Andrew Walter, QB, Arizona State
3b. Kirk Morrison, LB, San Diego State
6a. Anttaj Hawthorne, DT, Wisconsin
6b. Ryan Riddle, LB, California
6c. Pete McMahon, OT, Iowa

2004
1. Robert Gallery, OT, Iowa 2nd overall
2. Jake Grove, C, Virginia Tech
3. Stuart Schweigert, S, Purdue
4. Carlos Francis, WR, Texas Tech
5. Johnnie Morant, WR, Syracuse
6A. Shawn Johnson, DE, Delaware
6B. Cody Spencer, LB, North Texas
7A. Courtney Anderson, TE, San Jose State


The Raiders chose Iowa tackle Robert Gallery with the 2nd overall pick in the 2004 NFL Draft.

2003
1A. Nnamdi Asomugha, CB, California
1B. Tyler Brayton, DE, Colorado
2. Teyo Johnson, TE, Stanford
3A. Sam Williams, DE, Fresno State
3B. Justin Fargas, RB, USC
4. Shurron Pierson, LB, South Florida
5. Doug Gabriel, WR, Central Florida
6. Dustin Rykert, T, BYU
7A. Sideeq Shabazz, S, New Mexico State
7B. Ryan Hoag, WR Gustavus Adolphus

2002
1A. Phillip Buchanon, CB, Miami, Fla.
1B. Napoleon Harris, LB, Northwestern
2A. Langston Walker, OL, California
2B. Doug Jolley, TE, BYU
5. Kenyon Coleman, DE, UCLA
6A. Keyon Nash, DB, Albany State (Ga.)
6B. Larry Ned, RB, San Diego State
7. Ronald Curry, QB, North Carolina


2001
1. Derrick Gibson, S, Florida State
2. Marques Tuiasosopo, QB Washington
3. DeLawrence Grant, DE, Oregon State
5. Raymond Perryman, S, Northern Arizona
6. Chris Cooper, DE, Nebraska-Omaha
7A. Derek Combs, RB, Ohio State
7B. Ken-Yon Rambo, WR, Ohio State

give the names of the "talent" they passed up.

 

[Tony]

Don't trip Brown_Boy... it's not worth going back and forth with them because they're hatin' and they don't want to see the Raiders get better. We'll just have to see what happens. I think Calvin Johnson, JaMarcus Russell, and Adrian Peterson are all going to be deep. But I think the Raiders need JaMarcus Russell the most because he could stablize our QB position for years as opposed to a proven bum/bust like David Carr.

 

[FATAL NYGHTMARE]

Well you do have to go to college before you go to the nfl genious you act like its high-school ball. Your arguments have no meaning.

YOU act like schooling a bunch of youngsters is gonna show you what he will do in the NFL. It's obvious you don't understand football, so I won't bother explaining the difference between college and pro ball to you.

 

[Tony]

YOU act like schooling a bunch of youngsters is gonna show you what he will do in the NFL. It's obvious you don't understand football, so I won't bother explaining the difference between college and pro ball to you.

Don't bother because you don't know that hell you're talking about anyway. Trick!

 

[MooreBlock530]

Well you do have to go to college before you go to the nfl genious you act like its high-school ball. Your arguments have no meaning.

bro all of us are tryna say is jrussel has the chance to bust just like any other mutha fucka that gets drafted what do you not see about that? do you really think that jrussel is going to come in and just refurbish the raiders organzation to a undefated season or something? yes there is a chance that he comes in and is a huge contribution.....but theres that same exact chance that he bust and is a waste of a draft pick.....


period....there is no argueing to that at all

 

[Tony]

^You're right, but that can be said about in player in the draft.

 

[MooreBlock530]

thats exactly what everyone is tryna say.......college success doesnt equal nfl success....some of the best college players dont pan out in the nfl...and some of the most unkown college players become superstars....JRUSSEL has a lot to work on just like everyone else.....the way that some of you are putting it makes it seem like hes coming in here with no chip on his shoulder and is ready to win.....a lot of the "experts" say he WILL pan out and be a success.....a lot of the same "experts" said vince young would be a total bust.....

 

[Tony]

You've got good points... We'll just have to see what happens. Yeah those experts did dog Vince Young though. We'll see...

 

[MooreBlock530]

one of JRUSSELs biggest knocks is his foot movement and that he doesnt follow threw with throws.....which is VERY coachable.....the question is how will he take this coaching (be hard headed and not take it well? orrrr take it well and improve?)...he also needs a coach that is good at teaching certain things....


would vince young do what he did last year if he WASNT drafted by the titans? with out norm chow.....(possibly one of the best o-cords int he game right now?)

its all speculation but we could of been saying VY is a total bust if he was drafted by houstan.....and never been in the postion to suceceed

 

[Tony]

one of JRUSSELs biggest knocks is his foot movement and that he doesnt follow threw with throws.....which is VERY coachable.....the question is how will he take this coaching (be hard headed and not take it well? orrrr take it well and improve?)...he also needs a coach that is good at teaching certain things....

I think JR would be cool. He's been working with Martinez (Brady's former coach from San Mateo who cleans up Brady's mechanics in the offseason) and dude said that JR is coachable and he hasn't seen a talent coming out of college like this. I'll think he'll do good.

 

[KOOL_AID]

bro all of us are tryna say is jrussel has the chance to bust just like any other mutha fucka that gets drafted what do you not see about that? do you really think that jrussel is going to come in and just refurbish the raiders organzation to a undefated season or something? yes there is a chance that he comes in and is a huge contribution.....but theres that same exact chance that he bust and is a waste of a draft pick.....


period....there is no argueing to that at all

well he wont turn everything around juzt look at tha titanz they got young and still didnt do all that good but at least got a good future qb to work on and make sumthin out of and juzt keep buildin tha team up same thing can happen w russell

 

[BrOwn_BoY]

bro all of us are tryna say is jrussel has the chance to bust just like any other mutha fucka that gets drafted what do you not see about that? do you really think that jrussel is going to come in and just refurbish the raiders organzation to a undefated season or something? yes there is a chance that he comes in and is a huge contribution.....but theres that same exact chance that he bust and is a waste of a draft pick.....


period....there is no argueing to that at all

I see your point, but it seems to me like you all are making a point that jr is going to be a bust. Like you said anyone can be a bust so why is everyone putting an emphasise on him. I said before he has no outstandidng flaws i believe hell be able to this team better than cj would.

 

[BrOwn_BoY]

YOU act like schooling a bunch of youngsters is gonna show you what he will do in the NFL. It's obvious you don't understand football, so I won't bother explaining the difference between college and pro ball to you.

Youre such an idiot. Why dont you tell me a better way that we can mesaure how well he will do in the nfl. Youngsters these are some of americas best athletes and you call them youngsters. Come on make an argument that has meaning to it.

 

[BrOwn_BoY]

Don't trip Brown_Boy... it's not worth going back and forth with them because they're hatin' and they don't want to see the Raiders get better. We'll just have to see what happens. I think Calvin Johnson, JaMarcus Russell, and Adrian Peterson are all going to be deep. But I think the Raiders need JaMarcus Russell the most because he could stablize our QB position for years as opposed to a proven bum/bust like David Carr.

Fasho thats it im not speakin on it anymore.

 

[FATAL NYGHTMARE]

You've got good points...

Those are the same points a lot of us have tried to make!! You just don't want to see it.

 

[FATAL NYGHTMARE]

Youre such an idiot. Why dont you tell me a better way that we can mesaure how well he will do in the nfl. Youngsters these are some of americas best athletes and you call them youngsters. Come on make an argument that has meaning to it.

Are you dyslexic or just stupid?

 

[BrOwn_BoY]

Are you dyslexic or just stupid?

still no meaning

 

[FATAL NYGHTMARE]

Look..

There is no way to measure how well the player will do in the NFL. Sometimes no-namers in college pan out and end up being stars in the NFL, and sometimes stars in college flop. Success in college does not equal success in the NFL.

If you truly think Russell's performance against Notre Dame is going to mirror his play in the NFL, you're a fuckin idiot. Period.

 

[BrOwn_BoY]

What your just now saying is what ive been talkin about the last few posts. My question is why you emphasize on the opinion that jr will be a bust, and never say it about anyone else. I agree there is no way to measure, but there are ways to get an idea of how well a player can do in the nfl, and one of the best is to see how well they do in college. He was in a conference with a lot of great defenses.I just believe you all need to give the kid a fuckin break.

 

[Tony]

^Exactly.... these dumb muthafuckaz keep saying shit like "Rylan Leaf" but what about "Peyton Manning" you dumb asses? Wasn't John Elway picked high in the draft? Dan Marino? Phillip Rivers? Carson Palmer? Big Ben? Donovan McNabb?

Strawberry's (Fatal) dumb ass keep saying David Carr... man fuck David Carr! This muthafucka said he wants to be a "backup" anyway. So fuck David Carr and fuck you Strawberry! You don't know what you talkin' about. And if anybody else got something disrespectful to say to me...Fuck You too!