damn Loom you fucking with West Coast Stone? I met that cat through my boy Octavius Miller, real cool dude and he got some BANGERZ on deck....so are we gonna see you at the westcoast hip hop awards out here in portland loom?
Dont you think some cats think ridin' on another turf is fun...regardless of your age. Hoods is battling right now in Sac (basically like how itz always been). If your still ridin' after 30, you obviously got an itch you still tryna scratch. Sometimes the lil homies wanna ride around and get drunk and high with the OG's, Sometimes the OG's just wanna say fuck the world and ride around with the youngstaz. Whats wrong with that? Sometimes cats be on that i dont' give a fuck shit. I kick it with folks all types of ages, teens, 20's, 30's, 40's, 50's, everybody just wanna feel young and have fun. Sometimes the definition of "FUN" can be takin to extreme measures. But hey, to each's own.
I mean i can understand if your married and got kids, then maybe you should take higher responsibilities and choices into affect.
so Key Loom, after your 30 you not gonna have no Crip love in your heart? your just gonna hang up the hat? I doubt that homie.
Dont no about you but I'm a always have love for mine regarless of my age and im about to be 29.
Personally i was able to put the damu life behind me a long a$$ time ago, about when i turned 18. My n*kkas wasnt with it no more, and i wasnt either. We were ready to become adults, to graduate, and the sh*t we did was fun but it had to end. Now 10 plus years later i'm seeing everybody wants to be a blood in the 2000's era. Whereas when i was coming up we didn't have myspace and we didn't have that many rappers reppin for us besides Banging on wax so we were small and real isolated. I feel like its a new movement and if i see a blood like i do now regularly in alamo, san ramon, or wherever i still acknowledge them as my brothers but it wouldn't feel right to jump back into it. That's for youngster's, let them learn. Everybody i know has moved on but i can't knock it because i've been there myself.
Personally i was able to put the damu life behind me a long a$$ time ago, about when i turned 18. My n*kkas wasnt with it no more, and i wasnt either. We were ready to become adults, to graduate, and the sh*t we did was fun but it had to end. Now 10 plus years later i'm seeing everybody wants to be a blood in the 2000's era. Whereas when i was coming up we didn't have myspace and we didn't have that many rappers reppin for us besides Banging on wax so we were small and real isolated. I feel like its a new movement and if i see a blood like i do now regularly in alamo, san ramon, or wherever i still acknowledge them as my brothers but it wouldn't feel right to jump back into it. That's for youngster's, let them learn. Everybody i know has moved on but i can't knock it because i've been there myself.
THAT SHIT IS BOOTSY AS FUCK! UNLESS YOU STAYED OUT THA MIX AND WENT TO THA PEN AND GOT PUT ON....ANY OTHER WAY IS BOOTSY! 4 EXAMPLE MY LIL BRO BRO SAINT FROM SAN JO WAS A SOLID DUDE PLAYED SPORTS AND WENT TO COLLEGE STARTED FUCKIN UP AND WENT TO THA PEN WHEN HE WAS 28...GOT OUT AFTER 5 YEARS BANGIN THA N HELLA HARD BUT HE EARNED HIS STATUS IN THERE! BUT IF YOU 25+ AND BARELY STARTIN OUT YOU A PHONY! ON NORTE! ON ZILLA!
Personally i was able to put the damu life behind me a long a$$ time ago, about when i turned 18. My n*kkas wasnt with it no more, and i wasnt either. We were ready to become adults, to graduate, and the sh*t we did was fun but it had to end. Now 10 plus years later i'm seeing everybody wants to be a blood in the 2000's era. Whereas when i was coming up we didn't have myspace and we didn't have that many rappers reppin for us besides Banging on wax so we were small and real isolated. I feel like its a new movement and if i see a blood like i do now regularly in alamo, san ramon, or wherever i still acknowledge them as my brothers but it wouldn't feel right to jump back into it. That's for youngster's, let them learn. Everybody i know has moved on but i can't knock it because i've been there myself.
the cold part is that there are real reptable niggas fuccin wit these clowns and callin it a movement...what the fucc is niggas on....time to start pushin lines,but not so much a crip & blood one,but A real & fake one........
My opinion... well, some of these "real ones" need to be checked out more. I know some of his homies that dont fuck wid him like that... Even though he recognized for bangin on wax.
Truth is, alot of underground artists struggled, then all of a sudden, You have these big name/mainstream artists suddenly claiming Blood.
Diplomats was like that. Even though they on that East Coast 9 Tek... they brought it to light... and in those areas of Bronx, Queens, Harlem... 9 Tek, G Shyne, SMM, and Valentines are deep. I know they copied the West Coast (that's another discussion) but that shit spread like wild fire. It Reached the South and Midwest, reached up to Canada, to London and parts of Europe here and there. So you'll here that "BLAAAAT" or "I ride the 5".
Alot of these East coast cats get put on when they are 18 too...
But, I cant deny their influence because, when Dipset was a huge movement, so was the UBN Bloods with it.
Dont follow lil wayne to much, but it seemed he started to fuck with Juelz Santana and that "might" have been the influence.
but he did come out all of a sudden bangin like that.
And of Course Game (I'm not gonna get it to it, but go to Compton and ask alot of people about him). He even said he didnt start bangin til 18.
Even Mack 10... The Damu Ridas was calling him out. B Brazy called him out. Then Tha Relativez was calling him out.
Truth is, Game, Lil Wayne and Dipset actually made it somewhat accepted to be a Blood/Piru.
SAD thing is, the new generation looks to them as "AUTHENTIC DAMUS". Its why people have Game, Lil Wayne, and Dipset myspace backgrounds and shit like that with them flamed up.
None of them can ever...Ever... tell how real bangin was in the 90's and West Coast.
We got people that died for their sets/color, people locked up and people on the run... And these fakes are getting all the glory.
That's the tragedy of this whole thing.
What Big Wy did as far as the Soo Woop Movement, well he walked a fine line really. You either cosigning these dudes... and what are they gonna do for you? From what I understand, He seeked them out, not them looking for approval. I also heard T Rodgers had some issues with the project bekuz of Jim Jones.
You see, these industry Bloods are playing Ping Pong with each other, so if you want to shine off that niche they made, you have to play with them.
Because they all got the pull and hooks up/plugs in the industry.
And real reputable Bloods and Piru's from the turf trying to make this music shit work... and if lil wayne hits you up to do a track... nobody is gonna turn that down. Look at Jay Rock.
My Source of information is my big homey, redrum 781. As far as being a Blood/Piru artist... everyone in LA fucks with him. We went to San Diego, everyone is fuckin wid him. Some of the homies from Sac is part of this project too.
So he got recognition in alot of hoods and when he wanted to put this project together, he said he wanted to be able to do background checks and be able to reach anyone's OG. Because he didnt want to cosign a fake ass person.
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As far as bangin all of sudden when you are 30... you missed the bus IMO. I'll put it how my homey from Fruit Town told me. "I'm a grown man with a family... my era of bangin is over. I've been thru it all, and now, I just wanna tell my story".
My opinion... well, some of these "real ones" need to be checked out more. I know some of his homies that dont fuck wid him like that... Even though he recognized for bangin on wax.
Truth is, alot of underground artists struggled, then all of a sudden, You have these big name/mainstream artists suddenly claiming Blood.
Diplomats was like that. Even though they on that East Coast 9 Tek... they brought it to light... and in those areas of Bronx, Queens, Harlem... 9 Tek, G Shyne, SMM, and Valentines are deep. I know they copied the West Coast (that's another discussion) but that shit spread like wild fire. It Reached the South and Midwest, reached up to Canada, to London and parts of Europe here and there. So you'll here that "BLAAAAT" or "I ride the 5".
Alot of these East coast cats get put on when they are 18 too...
But, I cant deny their influence because, when Dipset was a huge movement, so was the UBN Bloods with it.
Dont follow lil wayne to much, but it seemed he started to fuck with Juelz Santana and that "might" have been the influence.
but he did come out all of a sudden bangin like that.
And of Course Game (I'm not gonna get it to it, but go to Compton and ask alot of people about him). He even said he didnt start bangin til 18.
Even Mack 10... The Damu Ridas was calling him out. B Brazy called him out. Then Tha Relativez was calling him out.
Truth is, Game, Lil Wayne and Dipset actually made it somewhat accepted to be a Blood/Piru.
SAD thing is, the new generation looks to them as "AUTHENTIC DAMUS". Its why people have Game, Lil Wayne, and Dipset myspace backgrounds and shit like that with them flamed up.
None of them can ever...Ever... tell how real bangin was in the 90's and West Coast.
We got people that died for their sets/color, people locked up and people on the run... And these fakes are getting all the glory.
That's the tragedy of this whole thing.
What Big Wy did as far as the Soo Woop Movement, well he walked a fine line really. You either cosigning these dudes... and what are they gonna do for you? From what I understand, He seeked them out, not them looking for approval. I also heard T Rodgers had some issues with the project bekuz of Jim Jones.
You see, these industry Bloods are playing Ping Pong with each other, so if you want to shine off that niche they made, you have to play with them.
Because they all got the pull and hooks up/plugs in the industry.
And real reputable Bloods and Piru's from the turf trying to make this music shit work... and if lil wayne hits you up to do a track... nobody is gonna turn that down. Look at Jay Rock.
My Source of information is my big homey, redrum 781. As far as being a Blood/Piru artist... everyone in LA fucks with him. We went to San Diego, everyone is fuckin wid him. Some of the homies from Sac is part of this project too.
So he got recognition in alot of hoods and when he wanted to put this project together, he said he wanted to be able to do background checks and be able to reach anyone's OG. Because he didnt want to cosign a fake ass person.
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As far as bangin all of sudden when you are 30... you missed the bus IMO. I'll put it how my homey from Fruit Town told me. "I'm a grown man with a family... my era of bangin is over. I've been thru it all, and now, I just wanna tell my story".
I think alot of us that are older, went thru enough shit back in the days when it was more active... and anyone that makes it.. has a right to tell their story.
What can Lil Wayne tell me about Wars going on in 1993? It might be a trend to many people.. and it might be a fad to these artists.. and even alot of fans might not understand the Gang idea fully, but Anyone that has ever really been in it.. has every right to put these dudes on blast, Bloods and Crips.
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As far as being 30yrs old and bangin.. sometimes your enemies dont check for your age. Anyone that grew up in it, will handle theirs... These others that started like Lil Wayne, are gonna do what they did in that video when Spider Loc and 40 Glocc got at them... they realize its real shit to people.
Same with Jim Jones. He said something that he dont be flamed up anymore bekuz people get butt hurt over it... he just dont want people hitting him up for being an East Coast Blood.
So anyone that grew up in the 80' and 90's know whats up.
I heard that too. Mack 10 influenced them... but reason why I heard about Juelz is because they did alot of shit together music wise.
But I think you are right. Baby and Lil Wayne started to wear red, its probably because of mack 10... dont know how they didnt join Mack 10's set (QSB.. if that's real) to being MOB Piru.
to me, that's all funny shit. Only reason why Lil wayne is accepted a bit, is because he has came and fucked with real Bloods and Pirus. Jay Rock is probably the best known example. But he also was on Jay Man 1's cd (from Westside Piru in Compton).
There's a different between being cool/supporting aside to claiming a side then to disrespecting the opposite side.
But I understand too that these companies know they can control artists they have had for awhile compared to someone real from the streets. Because we all know someone from the streets is gonna bring that liabilities as well.
I heard that too. Mack 10 influenced them... but reason why I heard about Juelz is because they did alot of shit together music wise.
But I think you are right. Baby and Lil Wayne started to wear red, its probably because of mack 10... dont know how they didnt join Mack 10's set (QSB.. if that's real) to being MOB Piru.
to me, that's all funny shit. Only reason why Lil wayne is accepted a bit, is because he has came and fucked with real Bloods and Pirus. Jay Rock is probably the best known example. But he also was on Jay Man 1's cd (from Westside Piru in Compton).
There's a different between being cool/supporting aside to claiming a side then to disrespecting the opposite side.
But I understand too that these companies know they can control artists they have had for awhile compared to someone real from the streets. Because we all know someone from the streets is gonna bring that liabilities as well.
I know alot of the south had B's and C's here or there, but now they are everywhere.
I've heard N.O. dont have the color influence and I heard a few sets have set up shop already.
Its whatever to me. They should have put it out there from the beginning or atleast do what alot of Bloods did back in the 90's, give hints.
I watched a video with Chopper saying "Blood".. I dont remember hearing anything from bout that on Making the Band.
Even some of these East Coast Bloods... I know they different, but some of them know whats up. El Dorado Red knows whats up. Sandman from Bad Company, Hocus from SMM, Burna... them my homies.
@f31roger.. i was reading this thread and had to peep that clip again (interview above) with redrum 781, tre-8 etc. all because of that song by tre-8. shit is so fucking dope.
btw, in another thread, i remember reading where you mentioned that redrum 781 had unreleased material which was supposed to drop on death row if i remember correctly? any way of him releasing that stuff?