WHAT TOOKIE'S DEATH MEANT
- Thread starter EDJ
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J-BOEg AND THAT gUY,
HOW IN THE FUK IS TOOKIE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CRIMES OF OTHAS? THAT IS SOME BAKWARDS THINKIN'. LIKE I SAID IN THE TOOKIE MEgATHREAD, IF I HELP START A HOOD AND TIME PASSED, THE SHIT IS BEYOND ME. YOU CAN'T HOLD ME RESPONSIBLE FOR THE WRONgS OF OTHAS. IT'S LIKE IF YOU AMERIKKKAN, AND YOU gO OUT THIS COUNTRY AND SOME FOO'S WANNA KILL YOU CAUSE YOU AMERIKKKAN, CAUSE THEY FIgURE THAT YOUR RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATHS IN IRAQ THAT BUSH INITIATED. HOW CAN YOU HOLD ME RESPONSIBLE?
HOW IN THE FUK IS TOOKIE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CRIMES OF OTHAS? THAT IS SOME BAKWARDS THINKIN'. LIKE I SAID IN THE TOOKIE MEgATHREAD, IF I HELP START A HOOD AND TIME PASSED, THE SHIT IS BEYOND ME. YOU CAN'T HOLD ME RESPONSIBLE FOR THE WRONgS OF OTHAS. IT'S LIKE IF YOU AMERIKKKAN, AND YOU gO OUT THIS COUNTRY AND SOME FOO'S WANNA KILL YOU CAUSE YOU AMERIKKKAN, CAUSE THEY FIgURE THAT YOUR RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATHS IN IRAQ THAT BUSH INITIATED. HOW CAN YOU HOLD ME RESPONSIBLE?
^^ THAT'S RIGHT MY NIG, YOU CAN'T BLAME TOOKIE FOR OTHA NIGGAZ ACTIONS, TOOKIE AIN'T RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT YOU DO IN THE KILLIN' FIELDS, THIS GANG BANG SHIT REMINDS ME OF WAR, AIN'T NUTHIN REALLY DIFFERENT CRIPS N BLOODS, AMERIKKKA N IRAQ, OUT IN THE DESSERT/JUNGLE BUT WE IN THE STREETZ /THE CONCRETE JUNGLES. THE SYSTEM GOT US FIGHTIN' FO' THE WRONG REASONS, THEY WANNA HOLD US DOWN, LONG AS WE PLAYIN' THEIR WAY, WE AIN'T NEVA GONNA WIN IN THE END.......YAW NEED TO LEAVE THAT OTHA BULL-SHIT ALONE N GET CHA' BREAD!!.
both, and without tookie starting the gang alot of murders probably would not have happened, and it is not like people holding you responcible for bushs actions, its more like iraq's people holding bush responsible for the actions of his soldeirs, which is alright, they follow his command, alot of fools followed tookies comand, and because of that they killed memmbers of the gang, that tookies gang beefed with, you see
1) how the fuck do you redeem yourself for killing someone, no matter what he does, it doesnt ease the familys pain or bring back the people he killed. by this the family knows their lost member got justice.
2) like that one fool said, what about the people he killed, i bet they begged for their life, or tried to redeme themselfs for not paying him or whatever the reason why he killed them, didnt seem to matter to him, its all karma
3) if he didnt start the crips, and do sumthing that you like, you wouldnt care, i bet if some random guy just killed some people, and then made books bout not killing them, you would look at him differently cause he never did anything you think is tight
4) imagine your family memmber was killed for whatever reason, would you think the guy was redemed for just makin some books and tryin to change,and that he should live just cause he did that, and not die for killin yur family memmber? fuck no, i have a very hard time believeing you would, so put yur self in the familys shoes.
2) like that one fool said, what about the people he killed, i bet they begged for their life, or tried to redeme themselfs for not paying him or whatever the reason why he killed them, didnt seem to matter to him, its all karma
3) if he didnt start the crips, and do sumthing that you like, you wouldnt care, i bet if some random guy just killed some people, and then made books bout not killing them, you would look at him differently cause he never did anything you think is tight
4) imagine your family memmber was killed for whatever reason, would you think the guy was redemed for just makin some books and tryin to change,and that he should live just cause he did that, and not die for killin yur family memmber? fuck no, i have a very hard time believeing you would, so put yur self in the familys shoes.
Tookies death meant that the ‘racist slaughterhouse’ is still in full effect and was an act of ‘legal lynching.’
He wasn’t executed for the crime he maintained his innocence, but he was executed for co-founding the Crips, which he was never charged, tried, or found guily with in the court system.
The trial was a sham filled with a racist prosecutor and judge, a biased jury, circumstantial evidence, and snitch testimonies (all who had incentives to testfy).
His death meant that the 150,000 phonecalls and letters he received from at risk youth thanking him for his influence diverting them from a life of violence meant nothing.
His death meant that we as a society, still legally accept violating constituional rights (no cruel & unusual punishment) by administering a vengeful and punitive penalty of death that can last 15 minutes (or longer)… I.e torture is A-O-K!!!
His death meant that Vengeance supersedes justice.
His death meant that redemption is arbitrary and political!
Now to address ‘well what if he killed your family’
The feelings would be personal, and it would be vengeance that motivates one’s reactions, not rational objective thought.
or ‘what about the victims and their families’
His death will not bring them back or change anything for the better or give them anything? What about the family members who opposed his death?
‘but what about all the violence that ensued b/c of the crips’
There were gangs before Tookie, there are gangs after Tookie… who is to say it would be the Bloods who were 3 times as large, or GD or VL’s migrate to take their place… Killing Tookie ain’t gonna stop some other crip or any gang member from doin’ what they do, period.
Isn’t it more constructive to address the issues which create the need/want of this lifestyle?
Hopefully, his death (since it is irreversible) will show us as a society how flawed capital punsihment is.
Hopefully, his death meant that he will become a true martyr in steps towards a moritorium on capital punishment, until the entire defective system of the death penalty is re-evaluated and eventually abolished…
Just look at the other barbaric countries that use this form of punishment, now think, wow do we really want to be in that catergory…
I’ve obstained from commenting for a while b/c I’ve been hella sick, but now I’m on the road to recovery and can’t sit silent anymore…
It’s amazing y’all have so much hate and animosity for a guy you’ve never met and hardly know anything about?
How can y’all honestly say you’re a fan of Gangster rap music yet viciously slander the name of a dead soldier?
I’m exhausted, so enough for now…
In the meantime keep in mind
The death penalty is dead wrong
It is racist (proportionally, so don’t come at the angle of more white people on death row than black people, b/c that don’t fly, the key word is proportionally, if you don’t understand do some
research)
It violates the 8th and 14th ammendment of the constituion
It is pure vengeance and nothing more
It does not solve anything or deter capital crime
It is barbaric
It is financially more expensive than life in prison (with the appeals process, and no we should not just deny due process to make it cheaper)
It is irreversible, in fact numerous innocents are executed annualy w/o discretion… (how many innocent government murders is justified to kill guily villains?)
Capital Punishment is the most thought out and methodical form of premeditated murder ever.
He wasn’t executed for the crime he maintained his innocence, but he was executed for co-founding the Crips, which he was never charged, tried, or found guily with in the court system.
The trial was a sham filled with a racist prosecutor and judge, a biased jury, circumstantial evidence, and snitch testimonies (all who had incentives to testfy).
His death meant that the 150,000 phonecalls and letters he received from at risk youth thanking him for his influence diverting them from a life of violence meant nothing.
His death meant that we as a society, still legally accept violating constituional rights (no cruel & unusual punishment) by administering a vengeful and punitive penalty of death that can last 15 minutes (or longer)… I.e torture is A-O-K!!!
His death meant that Vengeance supersedes justice.
His death meant that redemption is arbitrary and political!
Now to address ‘well what if he killed your family’
The feelings would be personal, and it would be vengeance that motivates one’s reactions, not rational objective thought.
or ‘what about the victims and their families’
His death will not bring them back or change anything for the better or give them anything? What about the family members who opposed his death?
‘but what about all the violence that ensued b/c of the crips’
There were gangs before Tookie, there are gangs after Tookie… who is to say it would be the Bloods who were 3 times as large, or GD or VL’s migrate to take their place… Killing Tookie ain’t gonna stop some other crip or any gang member from doin’ what they do, period.
Isn’t it more constructive to address the issues which create the need/want of this lifestyle?
Hopefully, his death (since it is irreversible) will show us as a society how flawed capital punsihment is.
Hopefully, his death meant that he will become a true martyr in steps towards a moritorium on capital punishment, until the entire defective system of the death penalty is re-evaluated and eventually abolished…
Just look at the other barbaric countries that use this form of punishment, now think, wow do we really want to be in that catergory…
I’ve obstained from commenting for a while b/c I’ve been hella sick, but now I’m on the road to recovery and can’t sit silent anymore…
It’s amazing y’all have so much hate and animosity for a guy you’ve never met and hardly know anything about?
How can y’all honestly say you’re a fan of Gangster rap music yet viciously slander the name of a dead soldier?
I’m exhausted, so enough for now…
In the meantime keep in mind
The death penalty is dead wrong
It is racist (proportionally, so don’t come at the angle of more white people on death row than black people, b/c that don’t fly, the key word is proportionally, if you don’t understand do some
research)
It violates the 8th and 14th ammendment of the constituion
It is pure vengeance and nothing more
It does not solve anything or deter capital crime
It is barbaric
It is financially more expensive than life in prison (with the appeals process, and no we should not just deny due process to make it cheaper)
It is irreversible, in fact numerous innocents are executed annualy w/o discretion… (how many innocent government murders is justified to kill guily villains?)
Capital Punishment is the most thought out and methodical form of premeditated murder ever.