mrtonguetwister, yeahh it usually ends up being like 800-1000 before all the rebates. but hey, you do end up getting the money back. you just gotta remember to send that in, they got so many rebates out cause the companies hope that you won't remember to send them out in time or wtv so they dont have to end up paying you. it's worth it in the long run. i dunno, consider it. look around in the ads and look out for how much rebates you get back. and if you do decide to buy one, make sure you go hella soon cause the cheap ones always run out quickkkk. good luck with whatever comp you get thoughh