To Pagans and Wiccans: Tell the board about Samhein (HALLOWEEN)

[Danger Manye]

Free will right, we are Christians so we should not debate or dispute amongst each, rather learn more, AMEN? But we all have different views on things.

Amen. we are suppose to be of one mind of Christ.

 

[2-0-NINE]

Where you able to read the info and the Links?

 

[Danger Manye]

yeah i read them. i suppose there are going to be christians against and for halloween. i just hope with what they do it is to honor God and his word. God gives a way threw anything. But if you do something with the knowledge of it being wrong isn't it wrong. I know living in this world is due to sin and it is wrong but threw God he makes it Right.

 

[JLMACN]

Amen

and I dont agree with either one of you..

5000

 

[2-0-NINE]

yeah i read them. i suppose there are going to be christians against and for halloween. i just hope with what they do it is to honor God and his word. God gives a way threw anything. But if you do something with the knowledge of it being wrong isn't it wrong. I know living in this world is due to sin and it is wrong but threw God he makes it Right.

I agree to some extent, yet again I wish not to dispute with you. My only bone to pick, is that how can you make something good towards the Lord when it wasn't originated to honor him? This is why, I don't celebrate the major Holidays. But I try to keep up with the real dates. SAD TO SAY I MISSED THE DAY OF ATONEMENT ON OCTOBER 1ST OF THIS YEAR, AND I'M SAD!!!! 25 HOUR FASTING, JUST SLEEP AND PRAYER, AND I DIDN'T EVEN BOTHER TO REMEMBER IT.

 

[2-0-NINE]

I was raised Catholic

This explains alot. Bro read alot about the Protestants, the Reformation of the Christian Church. Read the Pros and Cons of Each Denomination, understand the corruption going on in the church now. Lean Towards Bible and God Inspired interpretations through prayer and meditation, not that of the Catholic Church or a priest. You'll understand. The Catholic Church Indoctrinates men of their church with their Dogmas. So I sugges you read books on the subjects I posted. God Bless

 

[kingsvillektp]

This explains alot. Bro read alot about the Protestants, the Reformation of the Christian Church. Read the Pros and Cons of Each Denomination, understand the corruption going on in the church now. Lean Towards Bible and God Inspired interpretations through prayer and meditation, not that of the Catholic Church or a priest. You'll understand. The Catholic Church Indoctrinates men of their church with their Dogmas. So I sugges you read books on the subjects I posted. God Bless

I had a friend whos sister gave her brand new navigator to the church, well preist. I forgot the reason why but i know it had to do with religion and she gave it up like that. Now her preist is ridin clean and she stuck driving somethin ghetto.

 

[2-0-NINE]

I had a friend whos sister gave her brand new navigator to the church, well preist. I forgot the reason why but i know it had to do with religion and she gave it up like that. Now her preist is ridin clean and she stuck driving somethin ghetto.

THAT'S STUPID, it's another corrupt dogma of the Church to say you owe them 1/10 of your income, I think it says that in the Old testament, I'll have to look it up. IT'S BULLSHIT, this is more proof of how the Christian Church is corrupt and money hungry!! That 1/10 of income you need to give to God, is better off serving poor and hopeless people, that's truly helping God's Cause! Man the CHRISTIAN CHURCH NOWADAYS DAMN!!!

 

[Danger Manye]

i think its how you see the intent of something. Some see the devil controlling days of the year but i see him controlling the world. The tradition is worldly, but the Motive is Spiritual. My motive is to support my friend, learn who he is by the thing he does. I would not be going out this year if it wasn't for him and his kid. I'm sure he is going because he doesn't want his Kid to resent him when he grows up for not taking him (which is hard place to be in) for his struggle with what is right i'll be there.

cor 6:12"Everything is permissible for me"—but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible for me"—but I will not be mastered by anything.

he says me in the verse so i don't know if i can ammit myself to the same but aren't we all the same to christ?

so if your motive is controlled by the tradition of the world it of the devil and evil
but if you find your motive to be in accordance to Gods will you can restasure you are not wrong.

so the benefits i see is just helping my friend threw his way of fatherhood.
i'm not saying i don't have fun during the day of halloween but my main focus is other people not myself.

 

[kingsvillektp]

THAT'S STUPID, it's another corrupt dogma of the Church to say you owe them 1/10 of your income, I think it says that in the Old testament, I'll have to look it up. IT'S BULLSHIT, this is more proof of how the Christian Church is corrupt and money hungry!! That 1/10 of income you need to give to God, is better off serving poor and hopeless people, that's truly helping God's Cause! Man the CHRISTIAN CHURCH NOWADAYS DAMN!!!

Ya man, that church is just freeloading off of her poor soul. But hey thats her life, her business... In her eyes she thinks she's serving god to the fullest! sad story huh?

 

[Danger Manye]

This explains alot. Bro read alot about the Protestants, the Reformation of the Christian Church. Read the Pros and Cons of Each Denomination, understand the corruption going on in the church now. Lean Towards Bible and God Inspired interpretations through prayer and meditation, not that of the Catholic Church or a priest. You'll understand. The Catholic Church Indoctrinates men of their church with their Dogmas. So I sugges you read books on the subjects I posted. God Bless

i don't go to church for the corruption in it (for i don't set my eyes on the sins of man) I search my heart to see the goodness of those in it. I believe in going to church because where else am i going to be surrounded by other believers? and shouldn't that be what i love? For Jesus said "if you don't love your brother you don't love me." seeking God and loving God, i was like you i found who Jesus was on my own, but to Love him is to see the goodness in others not yourself.

And all the Priests i have praised with in church live mostly in poverty. they live very meek lives and give alot of there money away.

 

[2-0-NINE]

i don't go to church for the corruption in it (for i don't set my eyes on the sins of man) I search my heart to see the goodness of those in it. I believe in going to church because where else am i going to be surrounded by other believers? and shouldn't that be what i love? For Jesus said "if you don't love your brother you don't love me." seeking God and loving God, i was like you i found who Jesus was on my own, but to Love him is to see the goodness in others not yourself.

And all the Priests i have praised with in church live mostly in poverty. they live very meek lives and give alot of there money away.

Good, I do look into the Good more than bad, I still look at Billy Swaggart as a good man before the prostitution thing it's sad that we slander each other to prove whose right. But I didn't say you were going to church for the wrong purpose. But read books on those subjects, because remember God makes times for those who seeks the Truth. Remember too, Israel fell because they lacked knowledged, but I know you will find the truth, with your walk with God, because I'm not God so I don't know his plan for you.

 

[TROLL]

Deciding the optimum time for rituals of Winter Solstice ( Yule ), Spring Equinox ( Ostara ), Summer Solstice ( Midsummer or Litha ) and Autumn Equinox ( Mabon ) is an easy prospect, because virtually all calendars, as well as the radio and TV announcers, will tell you exactly when these common seasonal beginnings occur. These seasonal holidays begin as the Sun enters the zero degree of each of the cardinal signs of the tropical (western) zodiac: 0 Capricorn for Yule, 0 Aries for Spring Equinox, 0 Cancer for Summer Solstice, 0 Libra for Autumn Equinox.

For the Greater Sabbats, however, the decision is not so clear-cut. If we make an even-spoked Wheel of the Year, these four Sabbats are at the exact midpoints of the equinoxes and solstices. They have been called "cross-quarters." According to the late and great astrological philosopher Dane Rudhyar, the cross-quarters are points of greatest momentum and release of power, which is in keeping with the Wiccan tradition of calling them "Greater Sabbats," as differentiated from the "Lesser Sabbats" that are more commonly known to the mundane public as the beginnings of our seasons.

It is interesting that if one truly watches the turn of the seasons, one realizes that it is the cross-quarters that are the true onset (beginning) of the seasons. At Imbolc or Candlemas, the lengthening of the days becomes evident and the first signs of spring appear-increasingly changeable weather lending some spring-like days, the tiny sprouts of crocus through the snow. By Ostara, spring is in full swing. At Beltane, we feel the onset of summer-flowers are blooming everywhere. The so-called beginning of Summer, is called MIDsummer in folk tradition! In the heat of August, at Lammas, we begin to see signs of approaching Autumn, while at Mabon the signs of fall are everywhere around us, and the air has turned brisk and cool. At Samhain, the leaves are gone, the earth turns brown and the onset of winter is clearly evident, while at Yule, though the TV announcer might say "first day of winter," we in the north are likely to be looking out at a world of white snow.

Unfortunately, over the passage of time, the celebration of the cross-quarter holidays, along with much of the folk tradition that accompanied them, faded from mainstream society. The clear cut astronomical markers of the equinoxes and solstices changed with calendar changes, while the cross-quarters were forgotten. For this reason, many of those of the Craft, who still celebrate the Greater Sabbats, continue to use the old traditional dates from long ago, even though from an astronomical/astrological standpoint, they are no longer accurate. This is not necessarily wrong-any tradition that is constantly repeated over time gains power, regardless of its astrological or astronomical correspondence. But, for those who are concerned about the maximum points of energy in the dance between Earth and Sun, "the points of greatest momentum and release of power" are the true cross-quarters. These are found when the Sun enters the 15th degree of each of the fixed signs of the western zodiac: Aquarius for Imbolc, Taurus for Beltane, Leo for Lammas, Scorpio for Samhain. In present time, these days usually occur a few days after the old traditional dates for celebrating the Greater Sabbats.

Following, then, is a list of the usual dates for the Sabbats, given both in ancient tradition, and according to zodiacal markers. Understand that even the equinoxes and solstices may vary by a day from one year to the next, because they are determined not by calendar date, but by Sun at the 0 degree of a cardinal point. Likewise, the Sun at 15 degrees of fixed signs may give or take a day on successive years.

i would like to clarify heresy's previous question "what does it mean to you" and my answer "reflection of the past"

because as u see, samhain is the ending of the cycle, and by me reflecting on the past for a future change i am acknowledging the cycle..

heresey, are u going to give that in depth response?

 

[MuneyHongry650]

whatever happened to that in depth response that Heresey was going to give? oh well 7 pages and i still really dont get it

 

[TROLL]

^^^
feel free to ask any questions u may have folx

 

[JLMACN]

Im lost...can you help me out?

so is it good or bad to let my kid be Scorpion from Mortal Kombat and go trick or treating for candy?

5000

 

[2-0-NINE]

Im lost...can you help me out?

so is it good or bad to let my kid be Scorpion from Mortal Kombat and go trick or treating for candy?

5000

From a Christian Aspect, SIMON, but for a non-religious person, they won't understand so it's all up to you. Physically maybe stupid people putting poison in your candy as I've seen in the past, and people doing crazy shit. But since you don't really care for God, just make sure you take care and watch your son closely, cause there's this Child Molester who lives 5 houses, and I'm ready to shank to punk if he tries anything funny, and I'm serious.

 

[JLMACN]

^^^did he touch you?

5000

 

[2-0-NINE]

No, he's an old man, and hopefully he's changed and repented, cause if not, the neighborhood men wouldn't mind giving him something, on top of that there's a placa that lives 8 houses down from him, I think it's to monitor him, so it's all bueno!

 

[eMDe]

Halloween.. the most magickal of all days. This is my favorite holiday and my favorite time of year! I celebrate by calling up old friends that i havent kept in touch with over the last year as much as i would have liked.. and getting togiether. Fresh herbs have been harvested, and are dried and properly cured finally. There is plenty of smoke and money to go around..

But most importantly this is when I reflect on the year, and make my final plots for the last few months that will dictate how the next year will be.

Fantasy and dreams come to reality on halloween and then spill over into the new year. For the last couple days ive been intoxicated and having a blast catching up on old times with folks i need to keep aorund me more.

everybody live it up! Dip into the dark for a little while