To Pagans and Wiccans: Tell the board about Samhein (HALLOWEEN)

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TROLL

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well i gotta question, is it true the bible says worship the sun, stars and moon?

"And lest thou lift upthine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them and serve them" Deuteronomy 4:19


now i kno some say the bible is what it means to you, then what is your interpretation of this quote?
 

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No, the bible does not say to worship the stars, sun and moon. You listed part of the verse but not all of it.

And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven and when thou seest the sun and the moon and the stars even all the host of heaven shouldest be driven to worship them and serve them which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven

Now to understand what this is talking about you have to read the chapter up to this point (and even after.) However, the speaker (moses) is giving a warning and saying to NOT worship the things listed.

And when you look up to the sky and see the sun, the moon and the stars—all the heavenly array—do not be enticed into bowing down to them and worshiping things the LORD your God has apportioned to all the nations under heaven.-n.i.v translation.

19 When you look to the heavens and see the sun, moon, and stars—all the array of heaven—do not be led astray to bow down and worship them. The LORD your God has provided them for all people everywhere under heaven. --h.c.s.b translation

19And beware lest you raise your eyes to heaven, and when you see the sun and the moon and the stars, all the host of heaven, you be drawn away and bow down to them and serve them, things that the LORD your God has allotted to all the peoples under the whole heaven. -- e.s. translation

19"And beware not to lift up your eyes to heaven and see the sun and the moon and the stars, all the host of heaven, and be drawn away and worship them and serve them, those which the LORD your God has allotted to all the peoples under the whole heaven.--a.s.b translation.

http://scripturetext.com/deuteronomy/4-19.htm
 

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HERESY said:
No, the bible does not say to worship the stars, sun and moon. You listed part of the verse but not all of it.

And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven and when thou seest the sun and the moon and the stars even all the host of heaven shouldest be driven to worship them and serve them which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven

Now to understand what this is talking about you have to read the chapter up to this point (and even after.) However, the speaker (moses) is giving a warning and saying to NOT worship the things listed.

And when you look up to the sky and see the sun, the moon and the stars—all the heavenly array—do not be enticed into bowing down to them and worshiping things the LORD your God has apportioned to all the nations under heaven.-n.i.v translation.

19 When you look to the heavens and see the sun, moon, and stars—all the array of heaven—do not be led astray to bow down and worship them. The LORD your God has provided them for all people everywhere under heaven. --h.c.s.b translation

19And beware lest you raise your eyes to heaven, and when you see the sun and the moon and the stars, all the host of heaven, you be drawn away and bow down to them and serve them, things that the LORD your God has allotted to all the peoples under the whole heaven. -- e.s. translation

19"And beware not to lift up your eyes to heaven and see the sun and the moon and the stars, all the host of heaven, and be drawn away and worship them and serve them, those which the LORD your God has allotted to all the peoples under the whole heaven.--a.s.b translation.

http://scripturetext.com/deuteronomy/4-19.htm
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interesting, i found the quote so didnt know it was only partial, thats why i asked... so the line that was left out was...

"which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven"

right? so the sense of 'warning' of bowing before the sun and stars lies in the translation of "and lest thou"?.. whats the chapter about? im not asking condescendingly, im asking sincerely..
 

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Basically the chapter deals with reminding the people of what God did for them and reminding them of the commandments--specifically the command to not worship graven images, or what is created or what is above the earth, underneath etc. It also gives a warning of what will happen if the people don't listen (the people being the israelites) and what will happen if they don't listen but repent.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Deu/Deu004.html

And as for your other question it lies with that portion of the text, but more importantly it also lies with "should be driven" which means to drawn away or force away or compelled.