The TRUE history of the Sur/Norte feud???

[Gringo Starr]

I dont know...heres the link to the "documented history"...i dint know how accurate this is...but id like to know cus im sick and tired of everyone that bangs either side on here sayin "outsidres will never understand"...and IF this breakdown IS accurate...than i DO understand and its a LAME and CORNY excuse to hate someone so much...

but here yall go..

and PLEASE...unless you got somethin intelligent to say...leave the subject alone...this is not meant for net bangin...this is "HISTORY"....kapeesh?

http://www.nagia.org/Hispanic_Gangs.htm

 

[MEXCOM]

If you're not either why do you care? This thread should be deleted.

 

[Gringo Starr]

^^^Why?Its history...its interesting and i like to learn things...stop actin like its some secret club with a cool hand shake...its evidentally part of history and the shaping of the West...

 

[nefar559]

some sources i read state that the CIA was involve in the breaking up of mexican mafia. divide and conquer. Why? what if it was just one big ass mexican gang, with latinos being the biggest minority in the US, that would have some consequences in US society. Now we have two groups killing each other, breeding hate amoung our people.

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[Ne Obliviscaris]

^^^^ where is that quote from, ididnt see it in the link.

 

[MeloTrauma]

Fuck the dumb... Raza unite. Could all this bullshit have really started over a pair of shoes?

 

[YOUNG-$PIDER415]

Fuck the dumb... Raza unite. Could all this bullshit have really started over a pair of shoes?

PROLLY BUT THERES BEEN OTHER DUMB ASS REASONS OF PEOPLE KILLIN EACH OTHER ( NOT ONLY NORTE AND SCREEZIES ) LIKE NIGGAZ KILLIN OTHER NIGGAZ CUZ A BITCH U FEEL ME....DONT REALLY MATTER HOW IT GOT STARTED

 

[MEXCOM]

PROLLY BUT THERES BEEN OTHER DUMB ASS REASONS OF PEOPLE KILLIN EACH OTHER ( NOT ONLY NORTE AND SCREEZIES ) LIKE NIGGAZ KILLIN OTHER NIGGAZ CUZ A BITCH U FEEL ME....DONT REALLY MATTER HOW IT GOT STARTED

Prolly? Damn, you really that in the dark? Like I said if you don't got a part in it you shouldn't know. Especially with all the bullshit currently coming at me and mine, i can truthfully tell any one reading this, this life takes EVERYTHING you have and more, it's not a fad and it ain't played out.

 

[gut_instinct]

I dont know...heres the link to the "documented history"...i dint know how accurate this is...but id like to know cus im sick and tired of everyone that bangs either side on here sayin "outsidres will never understand"...and IF this breakdown IS accurate...than i DO understand and its a LAME and CORNY excuse to hate someone so much...

but here yall go..

and PLEASE...unless you got somethin intelligent to say...leave the subject alone...this is not meant for net bangin...this is "HISTORY"....kapeesh?

http://www.nagia.org/Hispanic_Gangs.htm

The way I see, from an outsider's point of view (a GUESS), the "shoes" incident was merely a catalyst (a "spark" if you will) which set off a long simmering beef. I could be wrong, but beefs that like that don't happen overnight. I think the roots of this thing go far deeper than what the website indicates. Just a gut feeling.

 

[YOUNG-$PIDER415]

Prolly? Damn, you really that in the dark? Like I said if you don't got a part in it you shouldn't know. Especially with all the bullshit currently coming at me and mine, i can truthfully tell any one reading this, this life takes EVERYTHING you have and more, it's not a fad and it ain't played out.

IM JUSS SAYIN.......IVE HARD BIG PARTS IN IT HOMIE....I KNOW WERE U COMIN FROM N SHIT N I KNOW WHA U TRYINNA SAY....BUT I AINT OLD ENOUGH 2 KNOW THE REAL AZZ MOFUCKIN STORY FEEL ME....THERE COULD B MANY REASONS Y IT STARTED

 

[TROLL]

yeah im pretty sure there were way more things going on then what they think they know

 

[MeloTrauma]

Im just angry at the fact that its 2005 and brown is killing brown on some gang shit. Yall doin what the white man wants you to do and expects of you. Hope its all worth it.

 

[suspect#1]

stop actin like its some secret club with a cool hand shake...

bwahahahahaha i needed a good laugh thanks homie

 

[SLOWPOKE]

HAY WHITE STAR,......


I SEE YOUR POINT AND MOSTLY AGREE,...WRONG IS WRONG,...WE BOTH AGREE

BUT THINK ABOUT THE FORMS OF BONDS THAT NOT ONLY MADE IT,...BUT KEEPS IT GOING ON STRONGER EVERYDAY?


PONDER....

 

[mustynutz]

im still ridin with South Side Nortenos and dem crazy ass North Park Surenos....

 

[mustynutz]

lol...post this in the east coco forum and start a riot

 

[Gringo Starr]

^^^Thats just it...i wanna see if this can remain a civil and educating conversation...

Im very sure it goes deeper than shoes...all this shit started during or around the shit at the Alamo...

At one point...Mexicans were all united against one common enemy...The White Man...and some where along the line shit got fucked up...im trynna figure where it all went sour...

 

[mustynutz]

yeah i was there...me and this cat Pancho used to bang Alamo Block Banditos (ABB) and these cats from El Paso tried to roll up on us...i grabbed my musket and black powder busted on the fool...hopped on my horse and took off....Im a ABB veterano from waay back ese....ask about Locote from ABB

 

[BETO916]

I want to read about the history from my people, not some whitewashed, bias assed article....

The United States paid Mexico $15 million plus $3 million in compensation for the northwest portion of Mexico. Today, that area is known as Nevada, California, Arizona, Utah, New Mexico, Texas and Colorado. Many Hispanic street gang members felt (and still feel) that the United States stole this part of Mexico from their ancestors. In reality, Mexico lost less than 1% of its population.[/QUOTE]

Mexico lost 1% of the population...but over 50% of it's territory!!!! They did us like the indians...DIRTY.

The trial also caused the Hispanic community to develop an anti-white sentiment and created distrust for the government, especially the police.

maybe the fact that whites have been FUCKIN' US OVER for 200 years has something to do with the distrust...fuckin' morons

Anti-Hispanic sentiment also grew within the wider community because of this community response. The class distinction only became more prevalent because racially motivated abuse continued to be directed at Hispanics for many years. It did not matter whether they were U.S. citizens or undocumented immigrants. To many whites, they were simply "Mexican."

still practiced TO THIS DAY!!

 

[mustynutz]

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