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to the bear fans...

Yes your team won, Congrats ( I was pullin for em )

but on a real note.. Grossman didn't do well at all... You saw all those 3 n outs... You really need to thank your running game in the 1st half.. And Yes I know Grossman threw only a few good passes but most where all over thrown.. Thank your WRs for making plays on some...

If the Colts can march down the field, look for them to take advantage
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
3). Miami huh? Excellent, that's were Rex Grossman is from! Grossman actually plays much better in warm weather than in shitty conditions.
Correction: Rex Grossman is from Bloomington Indiana!

Oh yeah, Colts Fa Sheezy
 
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Peyton is finally going to get his ring.


Not too many people talking about The Colts Defense...they've actually been the best defense in this playoffs through 3 games. They've had the best run defense, and I think will be able to contain The Bears running attack and leave the game exactly where they want it, on Rex Grossman's shoulders...he's not really playing all that well, and doesn't have much big game experience.
 
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FATAL NYGHTMARE said:
LMAO. If you can't hang, just quit. Don't make excuses.
I can hang but I find it pointless since 1). You have no logic, make shit up and ignore valid points made, 2). Debating "who will win" topics are pointless since no one here is playing the game and no one knows what's going to happen. We will wait and see what happens.
 
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techn9nehq said:
354 Yds on only 49 attempts, 2 TD, 1 int, 1 fumble, and another fumble
I think he had 3 total fumbles, but one was ruled a backwards pass.

This is why I don't like talking to Fatal. The weather didn't cause any of the turnovers, da bears did. Either he didn't really watch the game or he's making shit up.

First turnover Colsten got nailed by briggs, shoulder pad knocked ball out. 2nd turnover was stripped by Adrain Peterson on the Kick Return. One fumble was Brees getting hit from his blind side while his throwing arm was cocked back, officially ruled a backwards pass and a -25 yard sack. 4th was Brees getting sacked by Ogunleye while his arm was cocked back, bears recover. Then the interception.

All of the fumbles and one INT were forced and had nothing to do with poor weather. Doesn't matter if it's 72 degrees or 7 degrees.
 
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Colts and they cover.

Nice weather away from home, chicago will not stop manning and company. Yes I know Saints had #1 offense, blah blah blah! home field in weather makes a difference when playing a dome team full of rookies


Colts win 37-17
 
Apr 25, 2002
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2-0-Sixx said:
I can hang but I find it pointless since 1). You have no logic, make shit up and ignore valid points made
This is according to you. But if I weren't talking about the Bears, you wouldn't be saying this. If I were talking about the Patriots winning in the snow because of the weather it would be a whole different story. I always seem to know what I'm talking about when I'm on your side (not you, just people on here in general), but when I'm not on your side I never seem to "make any valid points" and I "make things up" and I "ignore valid points made." I find that amusing. Discredit my logic all you want, but deep down you know it's true. The only people disputing it are Bears fans.. That should tell you something.

And I just noticed how you brought up the Gathering Of Minds. LMAO. As if posting there makes you more knowledgeable and makes your debating skills superior to everyone else outside of that forum. Give me a break. I am also glad I don't post there.. Homosexuality, race, religion, and thoughts of what happens when you die don't interest me.

I'll let you go now, since you don't want to debate here.

Stay up and good luck to your team.
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
I think he had 3 total fumbles, but one was ruled a backwards pass.

This is why I don't like talking to Fatal. The weather didn't cause any of the turnovers, da bears did. Either he didn't really watch the game or he's making shit up.

First turnover Colsten got nailed by briggs, shoulder pad knocked ball out. 2nd turnover was stripped by Adrain Peterson on the Kick Return. One fumble was Brees getting hit from his blind side while his throwing arm was cocked back, officially ruled a backwards pass and a -25 yard sack. 4th was Brees getting sacked by Ogunleye while his arm was cocked back, bears recover. Then the interception.

All of the fumbles and one INT were forced and had nothing to do with poor weather. Doesn't matter if it's 72 degrees or 7 degrees.
Clearly you've never played in cold weather. End of discussion.
 
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ok 2-0 I read where you say the Bears have an o??? They may be 2nd in total points scored, but thats thanks to the d and special teams.

Take those away from the Offense arguement and the offense hasn;'t scored like you would have us think.

And it's pretty hard not to score in the beefed up games of detroit and minnesota and green bay twice.

Where as Indy has been tested in the tougher afc division has scored more points on offense, and has looked better on defense in the postseason than any other team.

The bears have a great defense yes, but most teams they play rely on the drop back passer who needs time to complete a pass, Manning is a master at the 2 step drop and hit the open wr. The bears linebackers are fast and hard hitters yes, but the colts are faster and will find the open spots.

After facing lj, maroney, dillon, and jamal lewis I don't think Thomas Jones and Cedric Benson are that tall of an order for them. And if they stop them you have to rely on Rex...Sure he has them winning, but where are his stats?

He is the same mold as Plummer enough to win you games, but enough to lose you more games as well. And if you think Rex will win the bowl only completeing 11 passes I am sorry but you are wrong


And for anyone who wants to bring the ravens super bowl win into this go ahead....whos better that Giants team or this Indy team???? No question who the better team is.
 
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FATAL NYGHTMARE said:
This is according to you.
Yep.

But if I weren't talking about the Bears, you wouldn't be saying this.
If you made up shit, I'd likely call you on it.

Discredit my logic all you want
What logic?

but deep down you know it's true.
Nope, I don't.

The only people disputing it are Bears fans.
Also untrue. There are some sports "experts" picking the bears. There is a popular saying in football, "Great Defense wins championships." Not saying that is always the case, but a popular belief in football.

Look, the Colts could come out and demolish da bears. They could win 68 to 3. I don't know what's going to happen and I know you sure as hell don't know either. That's why I find this "debates" pointless. Both teams have a shot, they are in the superbowl, anything could happen.

That should tell you something.
Tells me nothing since it's not true.

And I just noticed how you brought up the Gathering Of Minds.
Took you that long?

LMAO. As if posting there makes you more knowledgeable and makes your debating skills superior to everyone else outside of that forum. Give me a break.
I never once suggested that idea. I simply meant that I'm glad you don't post there because you would annoy me, since that's where I spend most my time on this site. But I wouldn't expect a simpleton like you to catch that.

Homosexuality, race, religion, and thoughts of what happens when you die don't interest me.
Yes, debating sports is much more important.

Stay up and good luck to your team.
Likewise.
 
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As far as the playoffs are going, Indy surprisingly looks like it has the better defense, more takeaways, fewer rush yards allowed, better pass rush, more overall speed on defense, but both defenses are very physical...
 
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thascary1 said:
ok 2-0 I read where you say the Bears have an o??? They may be 2nd in total points scored, but thats thanks to the d and special teams.
Yes, they have an O at times, yes. Defense and special teams can certainly help no doubt, but Grossman has thrown 23 TD's this year and Jones/Benson run the ball very well. Berrian is the deep threat, Muhammad and Dez Clark on the short routes.

Take those away from the Offense arguement and the offense hasn;'t scored like you would have us think.
Not all the time no, but they have put up a lot of points. Again, Grossman 23 TD's, Jones/Benson TD's, etc.

I'm not saying they are the Charges or anything, I'm just saying they have a pretty decent offense that can put up points.

And it's pretty hard not to score in the beefed up games of detroit and minnesota and green bay twice.
Yeah, they also put up a lot points against virtually everyone else too.

Where as Indy has been tested in the tougher afc division has scored more points on offense, and has looked better on defense in the postseason than any other team.
I'm not saying the Colts don't have a "better" offense, I'm just saying da bears aren't as bad as people are saying they are.

The bears have a great defense yes, but most teams they play rely on the drop back passer who needs time to complete a pass, Manning is a master at the 2 step drop and hit the open wr. The bears linebackers are fast and hard hitters yes, but the colts are faster and will find the open spots.
We'll see.

After facing lj, maroney, dillon, and jamal lewis I don't think Thomas Jones and Cedric Benson are that tall of an order for them. And if they stop them you have to rely on Rex...Sure he has them winning, but where are his stats?
Stat's don't matter, W's do. Just ask Payton Manning.

He is the same mold as Plummer enough to win you games, but enough to lose you more games as well. And if you think Rex will win the bowl only completeing 11 passes I am sorry but you are wrong
Who said he'll only complete 11 passes?
 

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colts....rex will lose the game for the bears if the colts can contain (don't really need to stop, just contain) the run....peyton should be good enough to disect the bears defense
 

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Yes I know, but who's to say the Bears will be able to do the same against the Colts?
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and who's to say the Colts are gonna come out on fire and beat the Bears?

People are talking about the weather being a factor and what not, but both teams had to play in it and both teams had some slippage due to the conditions. However the Bears were able to protect the ball while the Saints didn't. This other cat says it's a fact that if the game was in a dome that the Saints would win, however the facts were stated that the Saints lost most of their games at the dome with Breez usually throwing the ball 40 - 50 times. when you throw for over 300 yards and you still lose, the defense needs work.

I'm honestly happy to see the Colts in the bowl instead of the Patriots. Dungy is a good dude and it's good to see him making it.

However, the Bears are my squad and i'm pullin for em..


I'm hoping for a nailbiter.

Good luck to the Colts.