Steroids
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this is why bonds or anyone else involved wont be punished by baseball.
it is also why it aint as serious, as far as baseball is concerned, as what rose did.
It is also why bonds, steroids or not, is still my favorite player.
but regardless, steroids are illegal in the US.
but I have a question. how can you get in trouble for a new drug that isnt on the banned substance list. I mean they were new steroids that the govt didnt know about. dont they have to be illegal before they can be prosecuted?
it is also why it aint as serious, as far as baseball is concerned, as what rose did.
It is also why bonds, steroids or not, is still my favorite player.
but regardless, steroids are illegal in the US.
but I have a question. how can you get in trouble for a new drug that isnt on the banned substance list. I mean they were new steroids that the govt didnt know about. dont they have to be illegal before they can be prosecuted?
Even corporate sponsors and the MLB think it's a big deal.
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
newsday.com
December 8, 2004
www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/ny-spbonds084074515dec08,0,950907.story?coll=ny-baseball-headlines
Baseball's plans to market Barry Bonds' pursuit of the career home run record have been put on hold, fallout from the release of his grand jury testimony about taking steroids.
The commissioner's office and a corporate sponsor it was courting for the campaign canceled a meeting on the project.
Major League Baseball said it had hoped MasterCard International would sponsor the promotion.
"We continue to assess the ramifications that these issues will have on our business," Bob DuPuy, baseball's chief operating officer, said yesterday.
"It's another reason why we need to restore the confidence of not only our fans, but of our partners."
Baseball already had sent the company detailed materials and artwork pitching the campaign. But the meeting was called off after last week's report that Bonds testified he took substances that federal prosecutors say are steroids.
The Giants' slugger finished the 2004 season with 703 homers, 52 shy of Hank Aaron's record, and at his recent pace he would reach the mark late next year or in 2006.
The program created by baseball called for a campaign in 2005 building to the game in which Bonds would break Aaron's record. A nationally televised on-field ceremony would offer significant exposure for a corporate sponsor. Teams that the Giants visit would be invited to be part of the marketing plan.
Jeff Bernstein, Bonds' personal marketing representative, did not return a telephone call for comment.
Bonds was to be approached for his inclusion in the campaign, but plans had not progressed that far. He opted out of the marketing plan of the Major League Baseball Players Association last year, and he now controls his own image.
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
newsday.com
December 8, 2004
www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/ny-spbonds084074515dec08,0,950907.story?coll=ny-baseball-headlines
Baseball's plans to market Barry Bonds' pursuit of the career home run record have been put on hold, fallout from the release of his grand jury testimony about taking steroids.
The commissioner's office and a corporate sponsor it was courting for the campaign canceled a meeting on the project.
Major League Baseball said it had hoped MasterCard International would sponsor the promotion.
"We continue to assess the ramifications that these issues will have on our business," Bob DuPuy, baseball's chief operating officer, said yesterday.
"It's another reason why we need to restore the confidence of not only our fans, but of our partners."
Baseball already had sent the company detailed materials and artwork pitching the campaign. But the meeting was called off after last week's report that Bonds testified he took substances that federal prosecutors say are steroids.
The Giants' slugger finished the 2004 season with 703 homers, 52 shy of Hank Aaron's record, and at his recent pace he would reach the mark late next year or in 2006.
The program created by baseball called for a campaign in 2005 building to the game in which Bonds would break Aaron's record. A nationally televised on-field ceremony would offer significant exposure for a corporate sponsor. Teams that the Giants visit would be invited to be part of the marketing plan.
Jeff Bernstein, Bonds' personal marketing representative, did not return a telephone call for comment.
Bonds was to be approached for his inclusion in the campaign, but plans had not progressed that far. He opted out of the marketing plan of the Major League Baseball Players Association last year, and he now controls his own image.
...too bad for all the sad little haters.
but even hank aaron said steroids cant help u hit curve balls, sliders, change ups, etc....my point is IT WAS NOT ILLEGAL IN 2001.
for a paper i was doing, i was comparing mcgwire to Bonds. McGwire had mroe than 100 strike outs in a season over half of his career. Bonds has only done that ONCE, his rookie season....since his rookie season, hes play at least 113 games, and that was his first season...so every season hes played been a full season...if u look at his walk total, hes been walked over 100 times way more than half his career. If u look at his home run total each season, hes an average 30-45 a year hitter. His stats have been consistent.
for a paper i was doing, i was comparing mcgwire to Bonds. McGwire had mroe than 100 strike outs in a season over half of his career. Bonds has only done that ONCE, his rookie season....since his rookie season, hes play at least 113 games, and that was his first season...so every season hes played been a full season...if u look at his walk total, hes been walked over 100 times way more than half his career. If u look at his home run total each season, hes an average 30-45 a year hitter. His stats have been consistent.
Just because it's legal doesn't make it right. The steroid policy in the MLB is a joke, it always has been and it still is.
Any arguement that Bonds was on pace to break the records or that he would have done this without steroids is completely worthless now. He used steroids. He was using steroids when he broke the records. No matter what the record books say, any real baseball fan will call him a fraud. Maybe if he didn't use steroids he would have hit 35-45 HR's again. Maybe he would have hit 15. Maybe he would have hit 75. It doesn't matter, his numbers are tainted and there's nothing that can change that now.
Any arguement that Bonds was on pace to break the records or that he would have done this without steroids is completely worthless now. He used steroids. He was using steroids when he broke the records. No matter what the record books say, any real baseball fan will call him a fraud. Maybe if he didn't use steroids he would have hit 35-45 HR's again. Maybe he would have hit 15. Maybe he would have hit 75. It doesn't matter, his numbers are tainted and there's nothing that can change that now.
Funny how it's only Giants fans sticking up for him (and there's even Giants fans bashing him now.) Barry is the laughing stock of the MLB. He's a joke. No fans respect him. The only ones sticking up for him are Giants fans who are willing to put their blinders on and avoid the truth because Barry is all the Giants have. Without him you have nothing. All Giants fans come out to SBC for is to be a part of "the scene," to wave rubber chickens, to do the "chicken dance," to boo Barry's walks and cheer Barry's home runs... When Barry's not up they're too busy with their laptops, wireless internet, wine and sushi to watch the game.