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dopegame707 · Nov 27, 2005

sirreal said:

Not to sound racist...But I really believe that you are white...
and I think that's part of the reason that you do not like THOSE songs...and I think that's why you do not like the Hyphy movement..

and I'm pretty sure that you are not black...
To be truthful..most bay area rap is target to blacks.

just being honest.

but if I'm wrong please correct me.

dopegame707 · Nov 27, 2005

Flossalini said:

Change is a sign of evolution! Hate it or love it... but Mob Music has evolved into Hyphy! E-40 is an exact product of that, and there is nothing wrong. Some of ya'll can chose to live in the past hoping for a comeback of your favorite washed up's, or preserve the past for what it was and root for the new era of those who will carry the torch. Bailey is hot...but he can't help that he wasn't born as "Rappin Ron" reincarnated! Get real... somebody wants to go diggin thru some Old skool un-used Sam Bostic, Mike Mosely, Mike Dean, and Rick Rock beats to put new talent on them trying to re-expose what's already been done. We won many games with that playbook...but not the Championship! So now with a new playbook, new rookies, and Veteran MVP's... we enter a new season! As you can see, everyone has tried to still our plays (Da Musicizans, Jay-Z, Dip Set, etc.) but they just can't seem to execute them the same way! So on that note, keep the fans involved, don't show boat and focus on winning!

Good shit.
Nice analogy sir.

5-Dime NwK · Nov 27, 2005

dopegame707 said:

your wrong. i agree with you that we should be supportive.. but someone being white isnt a good reason for someone to not like the hyphy movement. im white, i like it. i know black and white people who both like and dislike it, color doesnt matter with music.

dopegame707 · Nov 27, 2005

360_541 said:

You do not care if the bay blows up or not because you're not in the bay area rap business at all...so of course you wouldn't care.

dopegame707 · Nov 27, 2005

5-Dime NwK said:

No..you took it the wrong way.
I said that is probably why HE doesn't like any of those "Salt Shaker" or Too Short's "Shake that monkey" or the Hyphy movement

Im not saying that white people do not like it...cmon man

Im saying that's why he doesnt like it
from the way he typed that it seemed like he doesn't understand this Hyphy movement or any of those older songs

you feel me?

B DOUBLE · Nov 27, 2005

I am not scared to say if something is wack as fuck if i think its wack, the thing i hate about this site everyone says something is good regardless if it is or not, they feel they need to support the artist even if the shit is wack and i aint the one, fuck that, if you aint entitled to your opinion then if will be nothing but dickriding on here, FREE SPEECH DAMMIT LOL.

dopegame707 · Nov 27, 2005

B DOUBLE said:

Well if you hate the new bay area rap scene that much...
bring out your old 90's collection and have fun like I said before

because those days are over big pimpn

Playa510 · Nov 27, 2005

I DONT CARE WHAT PEOPLE THINK OF WHAT I SAY, I LIKE A LOT OF BAY SHIT BUT THE FEDERATION AND THE HYPHY MOVEMENT FOR THE MOST PART IS GARBAGE, THERE STILL ARTISTS COMING WITH THAT MOB SHIT LIKE TURF TALK AND AP9, BUT I STILL FUCKS WITH NICKATINA REGARDLESS OF WHAT HIS PRODUCTION IS CUZ HE COMES DOPE REGARDLESS, AINT ONE PLAYEN 90'S SHIT OVER HERE JUST AINT SUPPORTING THAT CLUB SHIT, THAT AINT ANYTHING NEW THE BAY COPYING OFF OTHERS REGIONS SOUNDS NOW, AND THE BAY IS USUALLY THE TREND SETTERS.

360_541 · Nov 27, 2005

dopegame707 said:

Really? And who are you?

D-Rose · Nov 27, 2005

Times change. The music changes.

Deal with it.

Playa510 · Nov 27, 2005

^^^ THE BAY AINT GOING NO WHERE IF DONT COME WITH AN ORIGINAL SOUND.

510PLAYA · Nov 27, 2005

dopegame707 said:

Ok well im 28 and im not a big fan of the hyphy movement. I like a song here and there that have to do with hyphyness but the majority of it is garbage. I havent been to a side show in the last 3 years, I went to sideshows from around 1994-2001 so that has nuthin to do with it except it was safer during my time of going. Yea i got to clubs, but to see hyphy movement it depends on the kind of club you go to and the kinda of crowd it attracts. Yea if you goin to a ghetto ass club then thats what u get. But at me being 28 it makes me feel old seing this hyphy chit pop of cause all i see is the younger generation aka crack baby generation really feeling this and at times it makes me wonder how ignant and non creative can niggaz be. Yea niggaz be sporting dreads, white tees and gold ones, i went to the BAYOU classic in 1997-99 and thats how all them southern cats dressed back then. Now we ride scapers. I went to Daytona for a couple of years for the BCR 97-99 they drove Caddy's, chevys and buicks wit 20's, tvs etc. The south has alwayz outballed us when it came to cars. So this whole hyphy appearance has already been done by the south. So im not feeling this hyphy shit at all.

Playa510 · Nov 27, 2005

^^^ YEAH FOR REAL, AINT LEAST THE BAY WAS ORIGINAL AS FUCK WITH THAT MOB SHIT.

dopegame707 · Nov 27, 2005

510PLAYA said:

Ok well im 28 and im not a big fan of the hyphy movement. I like a song here and there that have to do with hyphyness but the majority of it is garbage. I havent been to a side show in the last 3 years, I went to sideshows from around 1994-2001 so that has nuthin to do with it except it was safer during my time of going. Yea i got to clubs, but to see hyphy movement it depends on the kind of club you go to and the kinda of crowd it attracts. Yea if you goin to a ghetto ass club then thats what u get. But at me being 28 it makes me feel old seing this hyphy chit pop of cause all i see is the younger generation aka crack baby generation really feeling this and at times it makes me wonder how ignant and non creative can niggaz be. Yea niggaz be sporting dreads, white tees and gold ones, i went to the BAYOU classic in 1997-99 and thats how all them southern cats dressed back then. Now we ride scapers. I went to Daytona for a couple of years for the BCR 97-99 they drove Caddy's, chevys and buicks wit 20's, tvs etc. The south has alwayz outballed us when it came to cars. So this whole hyphy appearance has already been done by the south. So im not feeling this hyphy shit at all.

Well you do understand that the new gereration is the future...
and you're not a target market anymore.

dopegame707 · Nov 27, 2005

360_541 said:

Im just a limb on a tree of a record label who I will not mention right now

Its nothing wrong with you not caring
but its just obvious that the reason you do not care about the bay blowing up..is because you are not in the music industry

am I right or wrong?

why would you care if they blow up?I feel you

510PLAYA · Nov 27, 2005

dopegame707 said:

Not the target, that has nuthin to do with it. The older people are the ones going to buy the garbage and the young generation is the ones making CD-R's and selling it to make a quick buck.
Umm and im not the target, and how old do you think keak is? lol

W0RM_Da_C0N · Nov 27, 2005

i honestly believe that the bay, once the doors are kicked down and we shinin, its not gonna be just hyphy shit, but errythang the bay has to offer.... i mean shit, we ain't clones , we smart we gonna use the hyphy shit to open the door and come out n show our diversity.... ie jacka, ya boy, mista fab , quin, zion-i, frontline and so on come on mayn thats the way i see it

dopegame707 · Nov 27, 2005

510PLAYA said:

Keak is in his late twenties...but his music isn't directed towards your group of people is what im saying

its not for you big pimpn
period

Poisonpen · Nov 27, 2005

So thats all that the Bay has to offer, Hyphy music?? So Heiro, Zion I and The Coup dont make music anymore? I know that we're being forced fed a certain type of sound but in reality the bay is just as diverse as it was in the Great 90's.(IMHO) The other artist arent being pushed as hard by the Machine.

The major A&R's go in the direction of whats hot at the moment, they care more about making Lil Jon and Ying Yang Clones rather than doing what A&R's are suspose to do. When the bay goes back to hosting Urban Music Seminars/Showcases (bankrolled by the Majors) then my friend we know that there are A&R's amongst us on the board who are interested. Enough of my babblin'... GO DUMB OR GO HOME!!!!!

Playa510 · Nov 27, 2005

LOL AT DUMB FUCKS LIKE DOPE GAME SAYING KEAK AINT DIRECTED TOWARDS US, YOU MINUS WELL PUT ME IN IT IM 24, HES THE PRIDE OF OAKLAND YET I GUESS HE ONLY AIMS TOWARDS TEENY BOPPERS LIKE 50 CENT, FUCK OUTTA HERE.

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