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Dana Dane

RIP Vallejo Kid
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6 (or so) dudes called in an order to Round Table for 3 pizzas, on a humbug to rob the pizza guy (one arrested said they weren't lookin for cash, just grub), and ended up shootin and killin him. The driver was a 19 year old immigrant, and was working at Round Table to support his family while he went to college. This shit sucks. How fuckin senseless can people be?

Here are the stories:


2 arrests in killing

By J.M. BROWN, Times-Herald staff writer

Police arrested a 16-year-old boy and a 20-year-old man early Wednesday morning on suspicion of murdering and robbing a young pizza deliveryman Monday night. Arrest warrants have been issued for at least two other suspects.
Police declined to release the names of those arrested, saying they don't want to tip off those still at large.

All the suspects are Vallejo residents, and at least some live in the vicinity of the attack in the 400 block of Wilshire Avenue, police spokeswoman Lt. Lori Lee said. Some of those still wanted are about the same age as those arrested, Lee said.

News of the arrests offered little condolence to the family of Harvinder Kumar, the 19-year-old Bethel High School graduate who worked as a part-time manager for Round Table Pizza to help his father and ailing mother. The family moved to California from India 12 years ago.

"Even if they've made arrests, that doesn't bring their son back," cousin Sukhdev Saini said of Kumar's parents. "He's gone forever. They're totally in shock right now."

Also Wednesday, the owner and manager of the pizza parlor visited the site of the shooting. Calling Kumar a beloved employee who was like a son to them, the men wept where the young man was gunned down.

"Maybe his soul is wandering around here," owner Paul Nanner said. "It hurts. This little boy's blood. That that could happen we never thought about it."

Detectives are still trying to determine a motive for the killing, Lee said. The suspects allegedly robbed Kumar of the pizzas, but Lee said she could not say whether the cash he was carrying was also taken. Nanner said Kumar had only about $20 with him to make change.

It does not appear the suspects knew the victim or targeted him specifically, Lee said. "This young man was just doing a job," she said.

Lee declined to say which of the suspects police think placed a call to Round Table Pizza Monday night to set up the robbery or if it was one of the men arrested early Wednesday.

There is no immediate evidence that the killing was part of a gang initiation or a hate crime related to Kumar's Indian ethnicity, Lee said.

Police did not release the exact location of the arrests, but Lee said search warrants were served at private residences in Vallejo in connection with the case. The suspects all live in parts of south and southeast Vallejo, she said.

Kumar was shot at least three times about 9:30 p.m. after he arrived in front of the house on Wilshire Avenue, Lee said. He may have been shot more times, but three shots have been confirmed as being fatal.

Police have recovered a gun from the suspects, but Lee said it is unclear if it was the weapon used in the killing.

Nanner said a senior Round Table official told him Monday's killing was the first of its kind in the company's 50-year history. It was also the first delivery robbery for Round Table in Vallejo since Nannar bought both of the company's franchises here two years ago.

The community college student only made about $250 a week working part-time, but wanted to help his family, Nanner said.

"He was like a little brother," said manager Mohammad Khosravi, who, like Nanner, wiped tears from his eyes Wednesday at the scene of the shooting. "I liked him a lot. Nobody kills somebody for pizza. Why him?"

According to delivery records provided by Round Table, the suspects phoned in an order at 8:03 p.m. for three extra large pizzas with sausage and pepperoni to be delivered to the Wilshire Avenue home. The total came to $67.05 and the suspects said they would pay with cash.

The name the suspects gave was "Jiff," according to Round Table records. Lee said she had not heard of that name and does not know if it carries any significance in the case.

The phone number the suspects gave was not in Round Table's database of customer phone numbers, Nanner said. Because of prank calls and the fear of robbery, Nannar said, employees are supposed to call new customer numbers to verify the order.

It's not clear if Kumar called the number, Nanner said, but it turned out to be bogus. Nannar called the number after he was contacted by police and discovered it was disconnected.

Lee declined to say whether the number has been linked to the suspects or if a cell phone was used to call in the fake order.

Although Kumar was a manager and didn't usually handle deliveries, he volunteered to take the Wilshire Avenue order because it had been pending for a long time, Nanner said. "He did it for the customer service," he said.

"He said he would be back in 10 minutes," said Nanner, later showing a Times-Herald reporter Kumar's white Adidas shirt and black jacket that were still hanging in a back office.

On Wednesday, Nanner and other Round Table workers visited the site of the shooting and met with residents to learn more about what they saw.

The resident of the Wilshire Avenue address given by the suspects said Kumar did not come to her door prior to being shot. The woman, who declined to give her name, said she was asleep when shots rang out.

The neighbor across the street, Leonard Watson, heard screaming in the street, followed by a single shot. After a brief pause, several more shots were fired, he said.

He said he saw several people run away, but it was too dark to give police an accurate description of the suspects. He and other neighbors, including a nurse, ran up to the victim and saw his final breaths, he said.

"I was in shock," Watson said Wednesday.

"It was completely senseless," another neighbor, Marcus Roberts, said. "Whoever did it should be hung."

Round Table has planned a candlelight vigil for tonight at 7 in front to the store at 2633 Springs Road. The company is also setting up a memorial fund to benefit Kumar's parents, Nanner said.

He said he wanted the parents to know "there are people who love them."

Kumar's relatives said his funeral is scheduled for 10 a.m. Saturday at Bryan-Braker Funeral Home, Fairmont Memorial Park, 1850 West Texas St., Fairfield.

Sandra Vegas of Vallejo, whose daughter worked with Kumar at the restaurant, said, "He was just the best, best person. This was so senseless, over some pizza. We will pray for the family, pray for the city and pray for this to stop."
 

Dana Dane

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Suspect speaks out on pizza slaying

By J.M. BROWN, Times-Herald staff writer

When 19-year-old Harvinder Kumar arrived outside a Vallejo home to deliver three extra-large sausage and pepperoni pizzas, he was hit over the head with a glass bottle and screamed as he ran for his life. Then, a teenager shot him several times, leaving him for dead on the street - maybe just for kicks.
That's how Alfonso T. Bradford, one of three young men charged in the killing and robbery of the pizza deliveryman, claims the vicious attack unfolded in the 400 block of Wilshire Avenue on Monday night. Because the original intent seemed only to be stealing the pizzas, the teenager who opened fire was "probably trying to make a name for themselves," Bradford said.

"I didn't murder anybody," Bradford, also 19, said during a jailhouse interview with the Times-Herald on Thursday. "Police know I didn't murder anybody. They told me face to face that I wasn't the one who squeezed the trigger."

Bradford, a San Francisco resident with previous robbery and theft charges, and a 16-year-old Vallejo boy were arrested several days ago, but police shielded their identity until Thursday. Late the same day, police arrested a third suspect, a 17-year-old Vallejo boy, on suspicion of murder and robbery, police spokeswoman Lt. Lori Lee said.

Several others are still being sought, she said, adding that police are still trying to determine the identity of the actual shooter.

Citing fears of retaliation, Bradford declined to name others involved in the set-up robbery of Kumar, a part-time Round Table pizza manager. Nervously pulling at his black beard during the half-hour interview, Bradford gave an account of what he said happened that night.

Bradford said he didn't know who made the original call to Round Table setting up the bogus delivery. He said he arrived on the scene shortly before Kumar arrived.

When Kumar pulled up, he got out of the delivery vehicle with the pizzas in his hands and "some guy approached him with a bottle and strikes him over the head," Bradford said.

Kumar dropped the pizzas, screamed and ran down a side street, he said. "What happened next was unbelievable," Bradford said.

"Shots rang out," Bradford said. Only one teenager fired, Bradford said, adding that he did not see where the teenager pulled the gun from. There was a single shot, a brief pause, then up to five more shots, he said.

"Everybody scattered," he said. "It was over."

He said he considered calling 9-1-1, but didn't because he thought Kumar "was alive. I didn't see what happened to (Kumar), nor did I know he was dead."

Bradford said he returned to his pregnant girlfriend's Vallejo home afterward and was arrested Tuesday night. Besides the murder rap, he is charged with violating probation for a robbery conviction and has a grand theft warrant from San Francisco.

"My life has been put on the line. I've been accused of a murder I didn't commit," said Bradford. "Whoever knows anything about this basically needs to come forth."

Bradford said the shooting shocked him because he thought stealing the pizzas was the group's only aim.

"If anybody was hungry, they could've just taken a pizza and ran with it - not murder him," he said.

Bradford said he will plead innocent if given the chance during an arraignment scheduled for 1:30 p.m. today in Solano County Superior Court. The 16-year-old suspect is also slated to be arraigned today, but it's unclear if he will be charged as an adult.

Detectives are still seeking several other individuals in connection with the killing in what Lee, the police spokeswoman, described as a fast-moving investigation. "The dots are being connected quickly," she said.

She declined to name the at-large suspects until they are captured. Detectives were still trying to identify the actual shooter Thursday, she said, and would not speculate on whether more than one suspect fired.

Police recovered the handgun several days ago by mere chance, Lee said. Officers working the Kumar case in an undisclosed location witnessed a young man fire several rounds from a handgun while driving a vehicle.

After a short pursuit, police pulled the vehicle over and arrested the 16-year-old driver - a different teenager from the one arrested earlier, Lee said. Initial ballistics tests indicate the handgun was likely the weapon used to kill Kumar.

The second 16-year-old has not been charged in the killing, and police are still investigating how he came to possess the gun and how he may be connected to the suspects.

Detectives believe the main motive for the killing appears to be stealing pizzas, "as sad as that is," Lee said. "None of us can make sense of that."

It appears the small amount of cash Kumar had on him wasn't taken, but detectives can't be sure about any money in his wallet, she added.

The trick is determining why robbery turned to murder, Lee said. There's no indication the suspects knew the victim, nor does it seem a gang initiation was involved.

Bradford's arrest report indicates that detectives believe he was merely present during the robbery and helped to conceal the gun after the shooting.

A construction worker with a robbery and theft record, Bradford said he did not believe Kumar, who was Indian, was killed because of his ethnicity.

"I didn't know the pizza deliveryman or his family," Bradford said. "My deepest feelings go out to them. They can bet their bottom dollar, I didn't shoot him."

Remembering Kumar

A sea of candlelight lit the front of Round Table Thursday night, as several hundred Vallejoans joined Kumar's family, friends and co-workers to celebrate his life and call for an end to violence.

"I hope and pray all other teens learn from this and never think of doing the lowest thing," said Ben Sandhu, a leader among Vallejo's Indian community.

Using a bullhorn, friends and co-workers praised his kind spirit, while teachers talked about his dedication to learning English and absorbing American culture.

"He was a wonderful kid he was like my son," said Paul Nannar, owner of Vallejo's two Round Table franchises. "He was a brilliant child.

"We will be missing him forever," Nannar said, choking back tears. "God bless him, wherever he is."

If anything positive came of Kumar's death, pastor Terrence Nichols said, it was that Vallejoans of several ethnicities and faiths stood as one against violence.

"It's time for the violence to stop," Nichols said. "It's time for peace to begin."

Round Table's president, Jim Fletcher, said the killing marked the company's first ever. He said employees are trained to call phone numbers not in the customer database - like the bogus one suspects gave Monday - but it was not clear if Kumar did.

"The whole thing is shocking," Fletcher said at the vigil. "We're thinking mostly about the family - making sure they have the critical support they need."

Round Table and Kumar's relatives announced the establishment of a trust fund for his parents. Several people had already stuffed cash into a vase sitting on a makeshift memorial table full of flowers and candles.

To close the vigil, relatives and friends released 19 baby-blue balloons into the air - one for every year of Kumar's life.
 

Dana Dane

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God Bless his soul, and may those who did this get exactly what they deserve.

I saw on the news that Kumar's parents now regret the day that they decided to move to America. How's that for the reputation of "the Greatest Country On Earth"?
 
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That shit is stupid..I read he was supporting his mom. That sucks! Some fucken stupid ass kids took the life of another person for a fucken pizza WTF!!!. But hey they don't what's coming to them..let's see how they like being the bitches of some crazy vatos in the pen.
 
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Figured i'd do it before the media does

Artist: Dead Prez
Album: Revolutionary But Gangsta/2 Fast 2 Furious Soundtrack
Song: Hell Yeah

Sittin' in the living room on the floor
All the pain got me on some migraine shit
But I'm gonna maintain
Nigga got 2 or 3 dollars to my name
And my homies in the same boat going through the same thing
Ready for a cake
Better plot for the paper
We been living in the dark since April
On the candle
Gotta get a handle
My homie got a 25 automatic added to the camper
Nigga get the phone book look up in the yellow page
Lemme tell you how we fend to get paid
We gonna order pizza and when we see the driver
We gonna stick the 25 up in his face
Lets ride, stepping outside like warriors
Head to the notorious Southside
One weapon to the four of us
Hiding in the corridor until we see the dominos car headlights
White boy in the wrong place at the right time
Soon as the car door open up he mine
We roll up quick and put the pistol to his nose
By the look on his face he probably shitted in his clothes
You know what this is
It's a stick up
Gimme the do' from your pickups
You ran into the wrong niggaz
We running down the block hot with these pizza boxes
So we split up and met back at the apartment

Hell yeah (yo ain't you hungry my nigga?)
Hell yeah (you wanna get paid my nigga?)
Hell yeah (ain't you tired of starving my nigga?)
Hell yeah (well lets ride then)
Hell yeah, Hell yeah

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some str8 bullshit..i was at the bar watchin this story on the news a couple nights ago...some folks are fuckin senseless..and fuck the dead prez lyrics..i dont care how starvin you are ..i mean they could have takin the pizzas and ran..or takin the money..killing the dude was completely unecessary
 
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Yeah I saw this shit in the news and for some reason I predicted da6footah was gonna post this. WTF is up with Vallejo and pizza robberies? Y'all must love your pizza. Senseless shit they'll get theres though.
 
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It aint ever been safe to work at pizza joints in the V....i worked at Round Table in Rancho back in the day...Rancho Sqare was always a hot area....crack heads,drunks,dealers,bangers........I used to bring my strap to work after we got robbed when i was there....Every month we would get robbed.....place closed down and I was outta job.....went back to work the next day infront of round table slangin rocks.....
 
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